Question about JE and protection?
June 1, 2016 7:58AM
edited June 2016
You created "protection" to try, in part, to prevent one shot kills, and allow some of the slower toons to get a shot in before being decimated. At least, that's how I understood how this protection came to be.
So my question is, you then proceed to create Jawa engineer with droid synergies.
Well, I hate to tell you this, you've created an even worse monster that you just "fixed" with protection.
There are a couple of droid teams who have JE on their squad and when I play them, half my team is gone before I even get a turn. The last two times, I faced the same team, 88 got to go twice before I got a turn, Poe got to taunt before I got a turn. And poggle went twice, before I got a turn. I lost 7* lvl 80 Rey, I lost 7* lvl 80 QGJ, and one battle half of Bens health was gone while in the other Phasma was nearly dead. This ALl before I literally got one turn, not one of my character got a shot off and I was basically completely dead.
I was hoping for a logical explanation as to why you went to the trouble to create protection, only to create a toon that makes a single team literally unstoppable.
For everyone else, how would you go about trying to beat a team 2 on 5? (Other than avoiding them, of course)
So my question is, you then proceed to create Jawa engineer with droid synergies.
Well, I hate to tell you this, you've created an even worse monster that you just "fixed" with protection.
There are a couple of droid teams who have JE on their squad and when I play them, half my team is gone before I even get a turn. The last two times, I faced the same team, 88 got to go twice before I got a turn, Poe got to taunt before I got a turn. And poggle went twice, before I got a turn. I lost 7* lvl 80 Rey, I lost 7* lvl 80 QGJ, and one battle half of Bens health was gone while in the other Phasma was nearly dead. This ALl before I literally got one turn, not one of my character got a shot off and I was basically completely dead.
I was hoping for a logical explanation as to why you went to the trouble to create protection, only to create a toon that makes a single team literally unstoppable.
For everyone else, how would you go about trying to beat a team 2 on 5? (Other than avoiding them, of course)
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Gear 9? IG-86 gets to gear 11 and IG-88 to gear 10. Then the fun starts, because the droids crit every time. And go first before all. I've seen 20k+ hits for IG-86 and i've also seen 12k autos from him.
@OP I have yet to fight a team like this but i share your concerns. I have no idea how it can be beaten.
Loose lee, yes, which is why many droid teams have RG or Poe and stop top 50 or even 20 (at least in my server) they are definitely beatable, but theoretically, every team should be beatable.
Fudgra - I rather like my team Ben L with phasma Rey QGJ and ST Han. I hold top 50, all chars G8 7* working on leveling to 80, I typically never lose an arena battle when I play. RG would be moderately more serviceable than Han with auto taunt, but the problem remains, why does a droid team with JE get 6-7 attacks in before the other team gets one single attack. How does that seem balanced? how does one defend that?
Think outside of the meta box
You don't seem to understand the power of JE with HK47 lead...IG-88 and IG-86 will go twice before you can act. What's the counter then?
Ps: my team hk 47 g9, 88 g10, 86 g9, 100 g10, je g9
So dodge and being p2p? Those are the counters?
And I understand it's a strategy game and it's all about figuring out how to beat a squad and what not.
But my issue with JE, which is why I'd like a developers input on his intended use, is that he allows a well organized droid team to attack 6+ times before you even get a turn, and with some of the high damage droids like 88 out there, you will almost always lose at least 1 toon before you get a turn, so your arena matches are 4 on 5 in a best case scenario.
The only two ways to survive is to have a large counter team, which won't always work, or pray to the RNG gods that you dodge a handful of times. ( and the scary thing is, they've now created a droid that counters the only two ways to have a chance against this team, imagine HK L, 88 B2, JE and RG)
Again...i use hk/88/86 as core and 100/rg/daka now untill i get JE. Against 90% of opponents they GET 6 FREAKING HITS BEFORE I GET TO GO!
If opponent has any mix of QGJ/rey/GS/leia/ackbar thats 6 hits against my droids and i almost always lose 1 toon before i even move.
Phasma L RG/daka stuns 3 droids everytime, and avgs more than 6 hits before i move.
OB/dooku L (dispite party composition) = 86 always misses on his assistance atk when it counts. Lucky if 88's aoe hits anything.
You statement sir is that of a warrior complaining that the person your attacking is fighting back with same tactic used against him.
(Stand still while i squash you...worm!)
What is wrong with that? Only YOU can have the first 6 attacks?
Or that somehow droids turning the same atk 1st method the meta employs against them unfair? Is that what your saying? Cause if its not please elaborate.
Lastly hope i didnt come over as mean...just understand im in top 50 and can get to 25 (RG/daka) but no further because everyone gets 6+ atks and kills one or more of my droids. (I am only hk L in top 100 of my shard, primarily dominated by evade/phasma/ackbar leads) and i have never gone first...never, with hk lead.
Lastly this not a complaint. It's a statement.
We droids will no longer stand still and let you hit us first! We cast off your shackles of speed first slavery and with our new besty JE we will give you a taste of what youve been dishing to us all this time!
If your using poggle with JE your doing it all wrong. JE is the better poggle. Poggle is no longer needed in droid teams unless you plan on using him as lead.
Somebody playing a meta team is complaining about losing..... GOOD
Very beatable
I run Hk JE 88 86 100
I get to rank 14-25 daily, and fall to 50+ by next day
I am beaten by evasion squads and ewok squads
I don't see the problem
All mine are g9/10
Loose lee you seem to be doing something quite wrong, I'm not taking your post too negatively, but I've never gotten 6 hits in first against droid teams and I have QGJ and Rey. As stated, at least a dozen droid teams in my top 50 ( a couple popping up with JE now) mostly poggle leads with RG or Poe tank, and many times Poggle gets a jump start QGJ and Rey get their hits in (3 hits with assist) then I usually get attacked by 88 followed quickly by a taunt. I've never killed a toon before I've been attacked. I know my droid enemies as I attack them frequently
And karbosa - quite interesting - you are missing a tank but you should be doing serious damage without others going
20% tm for clone, 10% for other. Example, ig-88 make an aoe, get 3 crits. So ig-88 would gain 100% tm, but all your team get also 30%. Same thing for hk or ig-100...
HK lead, poggle 86 88 ST Han
Poggle went first
My Rey went follow by QGJ with assist
Then 88 went abilit blocked toons, Rey foresight
My Han phasma and Ben all go
His ST Han taunted 86 went and called assist and then HK tossed his grenade and took out Han
My Rey and QGJ takes out 88
Poggle and 86 hit and take out my Rey...
My team relies on RNG and if other team focus' on Rey I lose, lost this match w/ Rey out so quickly.
To me this was fair match, and I lost. Many times Rey's doesn't go down as quickly and I win, but I lose plenty. When JE is added and QGJ and Rey don't even get a shot, now the tides have turned Masai sky in the droid direction
Yes i didn't know this. Ok then all they need to do is make Rex f2p. Sounds easy.
Okay...so...you got 6 atacks to 88 getting one attack....i think that proves my point....even with poggles su/ou only one...ONE droid (the fastest) got an attack before your whole party goes
I rest my case.
Now with JE droids get first atk and its wrong?