Old Ben auto-Taunt
Old Ben needs a taunt, his unique is completely worthless right now because no one ever attacks him and he has 10 million health. How about he taunt like RG. It would make sense since he needs a taunt anyway and given his history in sacrificing himself in episode IV. Thoughts?
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If Old Ben has a taunt. You will see him in every single team in the top #58574 !
He also reduces damage with his special which is a great special and the OP mysteriously forgot to mention it at all.
Then just get a taunting tank lol
Yea just use Chewie instead lol
Well for starters, it still makes no sense that he has an ability that literally never ever ever gets used.
Also I prefer to use Jedi and his Mind Tricks ability. Why not make that ability actually useful? Why does an old man have evasion up anyway?
True. But the threat of it makes you leave Ben for last. Now maybe thats not that big of a deal because Ben isn't a hard hitter, but every 5 turns he will be blocking your abilities, dropping your offense and reducing your TM. Having him on the board is a nuisance, but taking him out is tough because of his health+evasion+IYSMD ability making it a bad idea to try to focus him of the board.
Jedi don't taunt. They heal and evade. That's their thing. That's why they don't need a taunting tank.
I disagree. Personally I leave him for last just because he has 1 million health and does no damage so he's not a threat to anyone. And his debuff cool down makes it almost impossible to be used more than once in the arena.
And still the ability just makes no sense for a character with that much health it's useless
If any of them made sense to have a taunt it would be Anakin, at least if you look at it lore wise
With the if you strike me down ability a taunt only makes sense otherwise there's no reason for it to exist because it never gets triggered.
Also, I mean that may be the Jedi's thing but right now they are all nerfed to the point of being worthless aside from QGJ so why not thing of cool ways to make them viable?
Im sure I'm not the only one who started playing this game with the intent of using something other than obscure and cannon-fodder characters like GS and being able to be relevant.
I'm all for improving Jedi teams. In fact a week or so ago i started a thread about what Jedi teams need to be viable as a full squad. And yes the top thing that most commented on (myself included) was a tank with a proper taunt ability. I'm sure we will get that eventually, probably soon. It could be a change to an existing toon or a whole new Jedi character like Ki Adi Mundi. But giving Ben a taunt in his current form would be too much. If he loses his evasion ability, sure a taunt would be fine. But then you've completely changed the way the character works, what he was designed to do. It would be much easier to give Mace a taunt ability, and make Ben's leader ability help Jedi only (maybe with half the boost for none jedi like Lumi's leader ability). I just feel that a taunt doesn't fit with Ben in his current form. You'd need to really take the character back to the drawing board to give him a taunt or he would just be too powerful.
So he has useless ability.
A lot of toons have one useless ability.
Dont lvl it up. Or level it a bit. It will come in handy in raids anyway.
I agree it isnt very useful. Neither is half of bens health and protection. (Unless he is paired with a stealthed leia, maybe).
I used my 4 star ben in GW from node 4 on, yesterday. He finished GW with protection left. Lol.
If anything ben could use a nerf of his protection and health. Then he would be 99 percent the same. And just maybe his unique would come into play.
I have found no reason to star ben above 4 or to gear with any raid. Once u get him to speed 112 and potency 50, done. The rest of the gear and stars doesnt matter, as far as i can tell. (I dont have leia, though). The only thing is higher gear and star ben might be better on defense against low offense squads.
Makes sense. I still think Ben makes more sense as a tank with taunt and sacrifice than an evasion toon, working like RG would be more fitting of the character.
I think Mace could be ok in his current form of his basic damage is fixed. His basic is supposed to be 50% extra damage when he's above 50% health, but they make him do so little damage that with the 50% boost he still does less damage than a similarly-geared Lumi, QGJ or other character which makes no sense at all. If he has the extra 50% damage that should not be so little that it makes him still do less damage than anyone else other than Barriss or Ben. I think if he had the same Physical Damage as like Lumi he could be viable, he would hit hard and he has a second attack with dispel. I also do like his leader ability
Mace's damage is supposed to come from Shatterpoint, but the fact that it only triggers half the time on a random enemy, coupled with Mace's low potency makes it a very rare event indeed. If they made it so the expose couldn't be resisted, he'd probably be a heck of a lot better. And just like Vader, he's a leader - so when he's not leading, he doesn't get his own offense bonus, just like Vader.
As for Ben, his tankiness comes from both the protection he offers the rest of the squad in terms of AoE ability block and offense down for 2 turns (!), and evasion if used as a lead. That's a pretty potent combo, and auto-taunt would just be over the top if they added it to his kit. Auto-taunt can also be a liability since it gives an enemy QGJ's a chance to give everyone offense up, nullifying his offense down.
He's supposed to be a devastating attacker but his basic is as weak as Old Ben and his Shatterpoint does 1k less damage than Lumis force blast. His damage for both need some serious buffs in order for his description to make sense.
I can't see how a taunt would put him over RG let alone over the top.
Depends who you're attacking. Exposed heroes lose damage equal to 20% of their max health when attacked. Lum's blast also has a cooldown, and she's an attacker not a tank. As mentioned, his biggest issue is that Shatterpoint rarely applies successfully.
His leader ability gives him evasion and his basic gives him evasion for 3 turns. Auto-taunt would mean everyone would have to target a hero that's likely to dodge every other attack. At least if he's leading he'd gain TM each time he dodge and the taunt would be very short, but either way there would have to be some sort of trade-off made to his kit if auto-taunt was added.
Totally would trade his leader and evasion up for a taunt. 100% I think he'd be a much better character and it would make more sense for him.
Mace would make is called a tank and also a devastating attacker but nothing in his kit matches either of those he has super low health for a tank and he hits super weak, that's the problem, if his attacks really were devastating like Rey or something then it would make sense, but his current kit doesn't match that description at all.
"Jedi don't taunt. They heal and evade. That's their thing. That's why they don't need a taunting tank."
Actually, I think YOUNG Ben (obi wan) would be a perfect example of a taunting Jedi.
His quips during his fights with multiple bad guys took them out of their game slightly, and he isn't like Anakin who GETS taunted easily.
We shall see when he is finally made!