Jedi counseler heals almost every second turn I find him more useful in GW than luminara
But whenever Lumi heals you get auto heal for two turns as well?
If you are silly enough to omega Lumi's healing to reduce cool down by one turn, you will be healing almost constantly in battles LOL
Btw to answer the OP's question: If JC is a McDonald's cheeseburger, then Lumi would be a Quarter Pounder with Cheese. Similar but superior in every way.
Luminara does better damage, has better health, and has a better heal. The only disadvantage she ever had with JC has been JC's low cooldown on his heal.
Luminara does better damage, has better health, and has a better heal. The only disadvantage she ever had with JC has been JC's low cooldown on his heal.
In other words, Luminara has a stronger heal with a longer cool down, while the Jedi Consular has a weaker heal with a shorter cool down?
JD is fine. He is still a great pickup early game as people are leveling up. With GS so easy to grind he probably takes some of those early grind cycles. But, 3-4 healers will help unlock a lot of nodes.
Luminara does better damage, has better health, and has a better heal. The only disadvantage she ever had with JC has been JC's low cooldown on his heal.
In other words, Luminara has a stronger heal with a longer cool down, while the Jedi Consular has a weaker heal with a shorter cool down?
Correct. His heal does 40% and her heal does 45%. She also gives everyone heal over time for 2 turns. JC has a 2 turn cooldown with a chance to reduce to 1 with his basic and Lumi's heal is a 4 turn cooldown (3 turns with omega).
Luminara does better damage, has better health, and has a better heal. The only disadvantage she ever had with JC has been JC's low cooldown on his heal.
In other words, Luminara has a stronger heal with a longer cool down, while the Jedi Consular has a weaker heal with a shorter cool down?
Correct. His heal does 40% and her heal does 45%. JC has a 2 turn cooldown with a chance to reduce to 1 with his basic and Lumi's heal is a 4 turn cooldown (3 turns with omega).
Assaj can kill lumis secondary heal. And yoda can steal it. Rancor can also remove this heal, too, so a high lvl jc might be useful against higher tier rancor. I don't know cuz I have only done tier 5, and lumi heal is more than enough.
Lumi gives herself evasion up and has a decent ability block at g10, anyway.
Jc has a self heal on his secondary attack that is very weak.
Lumi does a heck of a lot more dps. Jc is good until maybe late player lvl 50s at least. After that a lot of people finish him to get yoda.
Assaj can kill lumis secondary heal. And yoda can steal it. Rancor can also remove this heal, too, so a high lvl jc might be useful against higher tier rancor. I don't know cuz I have only done tier 5, and lumi heal is more than enough.
Lumi gives herself evasion up and has a decent ability block at g10, anyway.
Jc has a self heal on his secondary attack that is very weak.
Lumi does a heck of a lot more dps. Jc is good until maybe late player lvl 50s at least. After that a lot of people finish him to get yoda.
Lumi. Better heal. Does more damage than Jedi Consular. However, Consular can still do heavy damage with both his basic and his special. I use them both in GW.
I think JC is better than Lumi. Lumis heal over time can get dispelled or used by qgj for offense up. JC have a real mighty heal every 2-3 turns. I use him in the first 6 now 10 GW nodes.
So I think JC is the better healer compared to Lumi.
If you need additional dps Lumi will be a better choice but 6k on her special don't really matters if you have a rey with 10k damage in team ;-)
I am not the greatest player in the game, I don't have the best strategy or game theory, but I do have Day 1 experience and an accomplished roster. That said, no disrespect to anyone here, but a claim that JC is in any way better than Luminara is pure crazy talk.
There is a very strong argument for Luminara being the best all-around character in the game.
The Lumi on my squad is Lvl 80, Gear 10 (missing 3 pieces of gear still) and Omega'd on every available skill. She hits real hard, has an amazing heal that is essentially perpetual (yes, it can be dispelled, but so can a lot of skills in the game), she dodges so many attacks it borders on outrageous, she fits on virtually any team that you can conceive of, and she has an excellent leader skill. Oh yeah, she is really farmable.
All of this makes her a FORCE in multiple game modes (yes, she still has worth in Raids, though diminished from her usual greatness).
In short, Luminara should be the first 7* target that any new player goes after. Period.
Zero hate here for JC, who is also wonderfully useful in the general sense of the game. But Lumi is a beast.
Side note - I would take the McD's cheeseburger vs. Quarter Pounder a step further - JC is a McD's cheeseburger, Lumi is a Double-Double combo from In 'N Out.
As a frustrated JC user, I'd have to agree with most of you that Lumi (the healer-attacker w/ enhanced evasion and decent hp whose basic can crit for 7k) is better in almost every regard. JC just gets to heal more often for less.
I'd also like to add that JC has the most compelling hidden taunt in the game and if you disagree I challenge you to use him in GW for any amount of time
I'd also like to add that JC has the most compelling hidden taunt in the game and if you disagree I challenge you to use him in GW for any amount of time
I believe the AI is set to try to attack characters classified as Healers as often they can. (Many games share this)
The Lumi on my squad is Lvl 80, Gear 10 (missing 3 pieces of gear still) and Omega'd on every available skill. She hits real hard,
Does she hit hard compared to other gear 10, omega'd toons, or other gear 8 toons?
Lumi is good and I agree she should be farmed very early on, but I don't see a valid argument for her being the best in the game at the moment unless you limit it to GW.
JC does let you heal more often, but if you have to heal that much you may want to reevaluate your team. It could be a fluke, but with the new GW changes I only had to heal two times during my entire GW. I don't see how healing every other turn will be that big of an advantage. I agree it's nice for a while and JC is worth starring up for the Yoda event, but he'll likely get left behind after that.
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You actually spelled Luminara correctly, it is spelt that you spelled wrong. It should have been spelled spelled instead of spelt
But whenever Lumi heals you get auto heal for two turns as well?
If you are silly enough to omega Lumi's healing to reduce cool down by one turn, you will be healing almost constantly in battles LOL
Btw to answer the OP's question: If JC is a McDonald's cheeseburger, then Lumi would be a Quarter Pounder with Cheese. Similar but superior in every way.
In other words, Luminara has a stronger heal with a longer cool down, while the Jedi Consular has a weaker heal with a shorter cool down?
Correct. His heal does 40% and her heal does 45%. She also gives everyone heal over time for 2 turns. JC has a 2 turn cooldown with a chance to reduce to 1 with his basic and Lumi's heal is a 4 turn cooldown (3 turns with omega).
Okay, thanks!
Whoever spelt it dealt it.
Lumi gives herself evasion up and has a decent ability block at g10, anyway.
Jc has a self heal on his secondary attack that is very weak.
Lumi does a heck of a lot more dps. Jc is good until maybe late player lvl 50s at least. After that a lot of people finish him to get yoda.
JC is not more useful against a rancor.
Not in England. In English "spelt" is absolutely correct.
U.K., Irish, Australian, and New Zealand writers make no distinction between spelled and spelt.
So I think JC is the better healer compared to Lumi.
If you need additional dps Lumi will be a better choice but 6k on her special don't really matters if you have a rey with 10k damage in team ;-)
There is a very strong argument for Luminara being the best all-around character in the game.
The Lumi on my squad is Lvl 80, Gear 10 (missing 3 pieces of gear still) and Omega'd on every available skill. She hits real hard, has an amazing heal that is essentially perpetual (yes, it can be dispelled, but so can a lot of skills in the game), she dodges so many attacks it borders on outrageous, she fits on virtually any team that you can conceive of, and she has an excellent leader skill. Oh yeah, she is really farmable.
All of this makes her a FORCE in multiple game modes (yes, she still has worth in Raids, though diminished from her usual greatness).
In short, Luminara should be the first 7* target that any new player goes after. Period.
Zero hate here for JC, who is also wonderfully useful in the general sense of the game. But Lumi is a beast.
Side note - I would take the McD's cheeseburger vs. Quarter Pounder a step further - JC is a McD's cheeseburger, Lumi is a Double-Double combo from In 'N Out.
I believe the AI is set to try to attack characters classified as Healers as often they can. (Many games share this)
That is why JC and Barriss often are targetted,
Lumi is good and I agree she should be farmed very early on, but I don't see a valid argument for her being the best in the game at the moment unless you limit it to GW.
JC does let you heal more often, but if you have to heal that much you may want to reevaluate your team. It could be a fluke, but with the new GW changes I only had to heal two times during my entire GW. I don't see how healing every other turn will be that big of an advantage. I agree it's nice for a while and JC is worth starring up for the Yoda event, but he'll likely get left behind after that.