Vadar is the most useless toons in game
Of course you will say he is better at gear 8 or 9. But why his basic did so low damage and block never land. What is the propose Really? AOE 0 dmg
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I personally want maul, Sidious and Vader to be better, along with some
Jedi. I'd be happy if I were seeing sith vs Jedi more often in the arena. However both syngeries are kinda meh, at best right now, and those toons don't do a lot of damage. So we're stuck with Rey, qui gon, Royal guard combos in almost every team. I'd prefer they rework toons like darth maul instead of adding lame ones like "Genosian spy"...
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So his biggest attribute is he can one shot someone. In the time you spent stacking all those dots to set up the shot Rey would have had that toon dead.
Not really... Stick a geared Gam guard in your group and stack dots like crazy and very quickly. On offense you can beat any top arena team very easily but on defense it's not very strong. After a round of applying dots the other team is half dead after taking their turns and you just finish them off. It's an alternative to the cliche teams everyone uses at least.
Here you go... (Some of these pics are pretty old now and more damage is possible but you get the idea)
Last node GW...
Arena...
vs. the rancor...
I sit at the top 10 and normally get #1 at payout. Haven't seen anyone use Vader since the hundreds. His basic doesn't do enough damage, yeah you can build a DOT team around the guy, but it's not that great, and once you're on defense you'll probably be targeted a lot. Vader needs a little buff, not a full overhaul but a buff to his speed or damage, something. He's very tanky though.
Yes I like the rancor and arena pics, nice arena team setup btw, haven't seen that combo out there yet.
That's all well and good and best believe I have tried him, I have Gam Guard 7* gear 9, Vader almost 6* gear 10 and my Phasma and Rey all decked out, same with 88 as lead. The truth is at the top of arena, it's just not happening man. Raids he sucks too because Rancor is pretty hard to get anything to stick, hell people have trouble with Teebo unless it's good RNG. He's just not there yet and I've ran a bunch of combos to make him viable. He needs work or better sith toons to make him a bit better. Strange one of the most powerful characters in Star Wars is getting outclassed by Rey, a new character to Star Wars. However, with the new update to Ani, I'm hopeful they'll rework him as I'm sure once people have him at 7* they'll be crying for buffs to him.
That's because you haven't run into a 6* g10 Vader yet. They are rare but I've been two of them in arena in the past week and he is totally viable with the right team comp. November server, lots of LOADED teams and I've seen Vader in top 20 this week. This is 6*. Be patient padawan... you will not be disappointed in the end game.
I've noticed certain toon make huge leaps at G10.... IG-88 is decent up to G9, he becomes a madman at 10 with basic hits of 10k. Vader is in that boat IMO. On the flip side, I've taken toons to G11 and haven't gotten near the same upgrade
If he had 1k more damage on his basic? He'd be excellent. I cant lie, I was expecting a bigger jump in damage output from 5 to 6*. Unless he gets that extra basic damage he will be more niche and need a team with heavy DoT synergy, which limits his arena viability.
Still, I like him, its Vader!
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Your strange words benghazi me.
So..He's a tank then? Thanks for clarifying that. So let's see, who does Vader actually help protect from damage? You wanna call him a bruiser? Cause that's more accurate. You can't throw him in the category of Royal guard and Han, cause he doesn't protect anyone from anything, he's an awful toon now that I think about it.
So let's compare him to savage and fives, since they're the closest comparisons. Two more average toons, fives has counters, more hp, a little less speed, low damage. Savage has a death blow move, buffs from being attacked, and turn meter gain from being attacked. ALL Vader has is... CULLING BLADE? Seriously? DARTH VADER, has nothing in his kit. He is awful. Rey can do his damage with ONE leverage, and gain foresight, and not require any set up. So why even bother using Vader, why bother putting 3 toons together just to help him. He's garbage and he needs a buff, he's even worse than fives and savage.
Quote for truth. I dont get what people are trying to prove with screenshots from perfect scenarios. The design with dots into culling blade will never work with the ai on defense, why even bother when dds like Rey, Leia and Geo can do the same damage without setup and bring additional utility to the table. Same thing with raids, dots dont work well in comparison to other team comps with the tenacity of the bosses. Challenges? Cmon, everyone who freshly hit 72 can auto the last tier of it.
Sad that the most iconic movie villain ever has such a bad designed tool kit. The auto attack should hit hard and he should have force choke, turn the saber throw into a dispell or smth. How Vader fights in this game has nothing to do with how he is presented in movies, the series or other non-canon sources. Having a character need 2-3 support characters and even a leadership on top of it to do compareable damage like other characters who fullfill the same "attacker role" without any support is just flawed game design in general. And i highly doubt this is the case because he is only 6-stars and not 7-stars, the numbers dont jump a ridiclous amount from just one upgrade.