Let's talk about The Whale Gap.

The gap between f2p and p2p is getting greater and greater. There is no denying it. The advantage of p2p toons especially in the new meta is abundant. Add mods into the equation and that gap has become astronomical. It's becoming to the point where heavy whale teams are actually impossible to beat without Perfect RNG

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    No whales...no game. I am FTP and have no issue with whales.
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    I'm not really sure what ptp toon you're talking about. One of the best teams right now is completely ftp, danger zone. Wiggs, SThan Lando and anakin. I'm ftp and get top 5 most days.
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    Let them spend their $10,000 for first place. Either out spend them, or learn to live with a lower PVP rank. Also this game is pretty fair for free players. Lots to do, and free guys beat whales all the time.
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    I'm FTP and I deny it. I'm on a late December server with 1 mega whale and plenty of whales with 60+ level 80 toons. I may have gotten luckier with the toons I focused on but there are plenty of competitive FTP lineups that can counter any P2P lineup. FTP do have to devote a ton of time to this game to be competitive though.
  • SmokeyJoe320
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    edited September 2016
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    It's not a whale problem... it's certain toons. But most are available to f2p. The top 20 of my shard is ALL Palp, Lando, Ani, Rey/Leia, RG/STH teams. Everyone available to f2p. Whales just have all those toons maxed so when the meta changed, they just switched line ups where as f2p has to start farming new toons. But eventually f2p catches up. That is the p2p advantage... time.
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    Ben_kenobi wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what ptp toon you're talking about. One of the best teams right now is completely ftp, danger zone. Wiggs, SThan Lando and anakin. I'm ftp and get top 5 most days.

    I'm ftp also and get top 5 every day also. But when someone is running a Wiggs lando emp ST Han team with every toon over 215 speed then there's nothing but a Rex led team or perfect RNG to beat that
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    I'm done. You're top five daily against opponents spending thousands, and you're complaining about them having too big an advantage? Not big enough to keep you out of top 5. Enjoy your complaint thread. I'm out.
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    JacenRoe wrote: »
    I'm done. You're top five daily against opponents spending thousands, and you're complaining about them having too big an advantage? Not big enough to keep you out of top 5. Enjoy your complaint thread. I'm out.

    That's just mean
  • Zooey
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    Lol this threads gonna be fun.
  • scuba
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    Broda wrote: »
    JacenRoe wrote: »
    I'm done. You're top five daily against opponents spending thousands, and you're complaining about them having too big an advantage? Not big enough to keep you out of top 5. Enjoy your complaint thread. I'm out.

    That's just mean

    Truth can hurt
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    The gap has definitely increased with mods, but this game is still very F2P friendly
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    Couldn't we talk about thigh gap?
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    CatoNines wrote: »
    Couldn't we talk about thigh gap?

    Overrated
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    Broda wrote: »
    CatoNines wrote: »
    Couldn't we talk about thigh gap?

    Overrated

    Unless nonexistent lol
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    Ben_kenobi wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what ptp toon you're talking about. One of the best teams right now is completely ftp, danger zone. Wiggs, SThan Lando and anakin. I'm ftp and get top 5 most days.

    No one who's free to play has a maxed out danger zone team. Wedge was just released and anybody who's free to play is lucky to have him at 6*. not to mention his shard farming competes with lando and Anakin.

    Also, the biggest advantage that whales have is not in the handful of characters that are pay to play, but in the gear and mods they can buy which allows them to build deeper rosters. Buying the colored mods with the the right secondary stats to upgrade is an enormous advantage
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    Ben_kenobi wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what ptp toon you're talking about. One of the best teams right now is completely ftp, danger zone. Wiggs, SThan Lando and anakin. I'm ftp and get top 5 most days.

    No one who's free to play has a maxed out danger zone team. Wedge was just released and anybody who's free to play is lucky to have him at 6*. not to mention his shard farming competes with lando and Anakin.

    Also, the biggest advantage that whales have is not in the handful of characters that are pay to play, but in the gear and mods they can buy which allows them to build deeper rosters. Buying the colored mods with the the right secondary stats to upgrade is an enormous advantage

    Yes.
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    Chewychuck wrote: »
    I'm FTP and I deny it. I'm on a late December server with 1 mega whale and plenty of whales with 60+ level 80 toons. I may have gotten luckier with the toons I focused on but there are plenty of competitive FTP lineups that can counter any P2P lineup. FTP do have to devote a ton of time to this game to be competitive though.

    good, as someone else stated there would be no game at all without p2p people. This is a business, they are here to make money. This isn't bernie sanders socialism.
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    Chewychuck wrote: »
    I'm FTP and I deny it. I'm on a late December server with 1 mega whale and plenty of whales with 60+ level 80 toons. I may have gotten luckier with the toons I focused on but there are plenty of competitive FTP lineups that can counter any P2P lineup. FTP do have to devote a ton of time to this game to be competitive though.

    good, as someone else stated there would be no game at all without p2p people. This is a business, they are here to make money. This isn't bernie sanders socialism.

    That's all fine and dandy but I get your point. They don't care about making the game fair to all it is all about profit. But it's especially annoying to me right now. I'm from a November shard and I've always been top 10 by creating anti-meta teams because I hated following the meta. Now I am forced to farm lando and wedge and join the meta because the only anti to the current meta is p2p. I.e. Rex or crazy insane mods.
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    I'm curious to know why you think the gap is getting wider? There has been no new content for p2p to buy, so they're at a ceiling. While f2p continuously gets to climb the gear/shard/mod ladder.

    The gap is tightening.






    Giggity.
  • Boo
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    edited September 2016
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    Ben_kenobi wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what ptp toon you're talking about. One of the best teams right now is completely ftp, danger zone. Wiggs, SThan Lando and anakin. I'm ftp and get top 5 most days.

    No one who's free to play has a maxed out danger zone team. Wedge was just released and anybody who's free to play is lucky to have him at 6*. not to mention his shard farming competes with lando and Anakin.

    Also, the biggest advantage that whales have is not in the handful of characters that are pay to play, but in the gear and mods they can buy which allows them to build deeper rosters. Buying the colored mods with the the right secondary stats to upgrade is an enormous advantage

    Broda wrote: »
    Ben_kenobi wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what ptp toon you're talking about. One of the best teams right now is completely ftp, danger zone. Wiggs, SThan Lando and anakin. I'm ftp and get top 5 most days.

    No one who's free to play has a maxed out danger zone team. Wedge was just released and anybody who's free to play is lucky to have him at 6*. not to mention his shard farming competes with lando and Anakin.

    Also, the biggest advantage that whales have is not in the handful of characters that are pay to play, but in the gear and mods they can buy which allows them to build deeper rosters. Buying the colored mods with the the right secondary stats to upgrade is an enormous advantage

    Yes.

    I am F2P too, and generaly do well in all aspects of the game - but I do notice the gap increasing between F2P and P2P - especially ever since the mod update really, because of what has been said above.

    I think if they raise the level cap to 90 at this point it would really cripple the F2P player base that is struggling to keep its head above water. I think a lot of F2P players will walk.

    However, keeping the game interesting for those who have everything and beat everything is respectfully challenging on EA's part.

    Perhaps these new PVP tournaments should be more geared between whale P2P players? - but I doubt it.

    Perhaps P2P should have a separate shard/server to play against each other.

    When this game was released there was a statement that it would be well balanced between P2P and F2P - and that is increasingly not the case.

    Look at the military might and Ewok events etc - Whale P2P and Longstanding F2P complete these events in their sleep. BUT - not making those events properly tiered for lower F2P players is exactly pinpointing the fact that this game is anything but balanced.

    I understand that events geared towards lower level players is in the works, but of course will be open to everyone else too, so how is that really helping anyone?
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    Broda wrote: »
    Ben_kenobi wrote: »
    I'm not really sure what ptp toon you're talking about. One of the best teams right now is completely ftp, danger zone. Wiggs, SThan Lando and anakin. I'm ftp and get top 5 most days.

    I'm ftp also and get top 5 every day also. But when someone is running a Wiggs lando emp ST Han team with every toon over 215 speed then there's nothing but a Rex led team or perfect RNG to beat that

    You confused ftp with ptp
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