B2 or TFP for Empire team?
December 30, 2016 10:40PM
edited December 2016
Not sure which one to farm. Both are available in the Cantina. Both seem to work well in Empire teams, which is what I'm going for. I've seen top teams use both.
NOTE: I already have TFP at 3* and absolutely nothing on B2. Not really much of a difference as it's early days on my TFP.
Thoughts?
NOTE: I already have TFP at 3* and absolutely nothing on B2. Not really much of a difference as it's early days on my TFP.
Thoughts?
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You could say the same for TFP. His Special nearly gets him back to full health. He's not all that great (yet), but lasts through as many as 5-6 nodes in GW on a Palpy team. Not too shabby..
Also, be careful with TFP if you do use him because a Wiggs triple shot can OHKO him even at max protection and G11. He really should be paired with ShT to protect him from that.
I went for the B2 unlock and am now working on starring TFP. Happy with my decision.
TFP can stall tenacity up though. Ability block Rex or Yoda or whomever and you have time.
You're right. I was assuming Baze or ShT would be present, in which case TFP runs into even more problems.
My Empire team will be:
Palpatine (L)
Boba (cuz he's awesome in any team)
Vader
Still figuring out next slots. I have Ability Block with Boba. Didn't mention stars cuz, well, the ridiculous right now.
Palp boba TFP ST and a 5th will wreck anything out there right now. Zeta vader may be needed for GK-Barris.
You definitely want TFP in there. Shoretrooper would replace Vader if you had him. B2 would be situational—double tank, QGJ Zeta, possible good vs Chaze.
As someone else said you may struggle without shoretrooper as it is
Both are definitely awesome.
Level 85 G9 6*. He's modded for speed and not damage. Phase 3.
This is what I plan on running... with B2 as my 5th.
As for my thoughts, I would unlock B2, and then finish TFP. As others have stated, B2 is usable at 4*. I have TFP at 7*, G9 and he isn't really all that usable in top end arena (well, on an older shard).
I love facing teams with b-2. Shock him, stun him, ignore him. People forget when he first came out evasion down was actually useful and now it's garbage. He's lost a lot of his utility. If you are going to run a dispeller you are better off with Baze Ventress Boba SF and possibly QGJ.
The drop rate for B2 is pretty sorry. TFP is an easier farm any day. You might be better off getting Sun Fac and TFP at the same time and work on B2 as a side project. Good luck.
I run EP TFP and Boba. So it doesn't really matter tanks can't taunt and nobody can use their specials. I actually usually space my AOE attacks. So EP can shock first turn. No need to stun a bunch of ability blocked toons. When I see a b-2 I'm not concerned. Another TFP or Boba though and im a bit more concerned.
As far as his question goes TFP is amazing in raids, arena, and GW. B-2 is only good in arena. This one seems pretty obvious to me.
100% Agree! I started farming B2 with the double cantina drop and only have him unlocked... I would go for TFP over B2 if I could rewind back time.
He's the fastest toon in the game, so mod him with all the speed you can give him. Omega on his AoE does ability block to primary target, so if you run into Wiggs, you should still go first and target Biggs as primary target, if it works then you don't have to worry about the OHKO. He then attacks again for big damage. Then use emperor stun followed by dazing Wedge. Shouldn't be a problem. Then after every basic attack he gets 10% tm for each debuffed enemy (plus 20 more if he plants a debuffs on his basic - that's up to 70% tm on his basic). With his speed at only 212 I've had him attack three times before some toons even get to go once
Edit: this is with EP lead so he gets the extra tm from debuffs, he gets first two attacks and then already has 70 tm for third if everything goes perfectly
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Yep, that's my team, EP leader, TFP attacks twice, then Boba ability blocks and it's pretty much game over from there. I back them with Vader and RG (slowly working on ShT)
SHORT ANSWER: BOTH! If you have to pick either one: TFP all day, because he is good on all aspects of the game.
LONG ANSWER: on my crazy competitive and whale-ish (November) shard the top 10 (non-Vader-Zeta-lead) Empire squads run both, there seem to be three main builds:
1.) Palp (L), Shore, TFP, B2, Boba
2.) Palp (L), Shore, TFP, B2, RG
3.) Palp (L), Shore, B2, Boba, RG
General consensus seems to be that you need Palp as lead (only other option really being Vader zeta), Shore as main taunt and B2 for dispel. Main question being "RG or Boba?!" as you're basically lost on my shard without a reliable and repeated dispel.
Those who have him also run TFP because he is a vital piece to the whole perma-block/stun theme and has excellent survivability behind a foresight/double-tank wall.
Version 3 is the only one that uses Boba in place of TFP, the rest of the top 25 Empire builds are experimenting with subs for TFP (e.g. General Kenobi or Sun Fac), probably because they either want to be different or don't have a great TFP.
So we can conclude there's little room for variation and innovation (mainly due to lack of empire chars) and the core you really should use is Palp (L), Shore, TFP, B2. Last slot can either be a 2nd tank or Boba.
I have been running version no.3 with RG in the top 20 for the last week because with so many pesky B2s around I really want another tank, which also happens to fit the stun theme and can make my team a little tankier and taunt when Shore is taking a break.
Wiggs teams have basically become a non-factor right now (at the top of my shard), only 1 team in the top 25 that's relying on that bromance, so surviving an initial burst is a little less important, maybe that's why some feel one tank is enough, but I like having two to protect Palp and TFP.