I really don't think people talk junk about useful toons. Most of that is reserved for toons who are junk.
There are a lot of non meta teams that work very well.
Droids have been fairly meta proof.
Rex lead can still hold its own, team composition varies from pseudo meta, and out
Similarly to Phasma lead, although I'm not sure she is hanging in there as much any more.
Jedi can make a great team, just not sure the jedi only team really makes the top 10 without a lot of work. Probably a mixed team. It's not the jedi fault, it's just that there are no 5 jedi that you can't find a good reason to sub 1 or 2.
Well i mean toons like plo, people usually dismiss him, but I've seen some folks say he can be alright in certain situations.
Also sidious usually gets bashed, but I've seen zeta vader squads using him
Yeah I feel ya on the jedi part. I've been able to get top 10 this past week on a feb. shard with
Qgj zeta
Ani
Aayla
Yoda
Shore
If I had gk, not sure how much replacing shore with him would actually help me. I know the cleanse and retribution is a big plus, but shore helps by eating those big shots.
Also sidious usually gets bashed, but I've seen zeta vader squads using him
people bash everything that isn't "meta" currently and complain that there isn't enough diversity in arena
as far as hidden gems go, it's toough to find one these days with the ever increasing power of newly added toons. I'm really hoping Jedi Knight guardian is a hidden gem, but too expensive to gear at the moment xD
Also sidious usually gets bashed, but I've seen zeta vader squads using him
people bash everything that isn't "meta" currently and complain that there isn't enough diversity in arena
as far as hidden gems go, it's toough to find one these days with the ever increasing power of newly added toons. I'm really hoping Jedi Knight guardian is a hidden gem, but too expensive to gear at the moment xD
Lmao poor jkg. If only the aoe block was 100% on any hit instead of just a crit would make her go a long way. She just needs some Hella speed secondaries and a tm boost to get dat 97 speed into action haha.
I don't really have any characters that I would call that.
But the other day I found a lvl15 4* square mod with 12 speed and literally called in a "hidden gem"
Ahsoka Tano. She is one of the hardest hitting Jedi, and her special chives you a choice to either heal the team or pretty much take out a toon with <50% health. She heals very well on her own. She is useful in GW, quite good on raids. Probably not so much in arena.
Ahsoka Tano. She is one of the hardest hitting Jedi, and her special chives you a choice to either heal the team or pretty much take out a toon with <50% health. She heals very well on her own. She is useful in GW, quite good on raids. Probably not so much in arena.
Dont forget her Ship is one of the best! Ashoka is a solid toon!
But is 1 toon surrounded by a strong meta really say anything about that toon?
I just feel if you can't make a team based on that toon being there, it's more of a novelty. Which is great in a game about collecting iconic toons.
Plo is no good because he was good and should be there. He good in a strong team, but could easily be replaced.
If that 1 toon contributes to the strategy of the strong meta, then yes.
I would bet that CUP could be subbed in for side and you wouldn't suffer.
Team synergy doesn't equate to contribution to strategy. It's not a bad thing but there are toins that don't have synergy that would fill that spot better.
I am not knocking these toons or the team synergy, it's just those toons are not the toins that win those battles, in the case of sid, he adds negative effects for vader that is a plus, but other toons could just as easily do that and would also add their own stand alone value.
I can actually name a few.
HR Scouts was my vanity toon way back before mods. I loved using him and he was the main reason why I got a 7* Palpatine the first time it rolled out. TM manipulation, Stun and good damage he was in my line ups over leia in most cases.
NS Initiate has the potential to be good because she does great damage, can apply buff immunity and has a huge health pool. Sadly NS are lacking and there Synergy is poor. Assaj Zeta may help them but not enough IMO
Someone mentioned Resistance teams and they couldn't be more right. Let me just put it this way.
Finn lead Zeta
Rey
Poe
RT
Shore trooper
They completely annihilated my arena team in the last tournament which was
Boba lead
Palp
TFP
Anakin
RG
Finn is really underrated (This guys mods were really good too JIC)
General Grevious is still missing a little something but the truth is, he is very good as DPS he hits like a beast. I have a friend that does better with GG instead of Nebit in phase 2 of tank.
Also people really bash on Plo Koon but I love him. Use potency set mods on him with speed secondary's and you are going to enjoy him too. He has a dispell on basic, can apply offense down and give TM to all Jedi and clones. His dispel on basic can save you big time from taunters and even the now dreaded Chaze combo.
The only Buff I would like to see on Plo to improve his overall Viability is maybe to add a Zeta that has a 100% chance to dispel all the buffs on the target toon instead of just a chance to plus apply buff immunity or ability block because you know zetas are expensive and should drastically improve a toon. (Also a base potency buff would look nice)
Ventress is ok. She has decent damage but is slow if she's not the leader...Even then she's slow by comparison to fast toons. Her dispell is handy but there are better options. Her main attack can stun too. Her aoe refreshes on a kill shot so that's a plus.
I finally got Plo Koon to 7 stars and gear 9 and he's really ramping up my tank raid damage by keeping my folks alive. The length of his defense buffs makes timing in phases 2 and beyond trivial, and offense down sticks well.
Scarif Rebel Pathfinder is so underrated, mainly because most of the people prefer StH over most light side tanks in the game. IMO, SRP is better than StH. SRP self-revives (he can even revive infinitely, as long as he has buffs), gives Speed Up to the entire team whenever he is defeated (he could give unlimited Speed Up buffs to the team since he can revive himself and die again), has almost the same health and protection as Shoretrooper (if you don't believe me, check the statistics of characters on defensive here - https://swgoh.gg/characters/stats/), and his AoE special ability can inflict Offense Down for 3 turns. I hope my comment gets noticed so that players will ditch StH and use SRP as their Rebel tank.
Old Daka. Used her for a long time in arena, and I still see her pop up at the top from time to time. She can turn the tide of a battle by herself with multiple stuns and a timely revive. She's still a great option for GW and dark side missions.
Also sidious usually gets bashed, but I've seen zeta vader squads using him
people bash everything that isn't "meta" currently and complain that there isn't enough diversity in arena
as far as hidden gems go, it's toough to find one these days with the ever increasing power of newly added toons. I'm really hoping Jedi Knight guardian is a hidden gem, but too expensive to gear at the moment xD
Lmao poor jkg. If only the aoe block was 100% on any hit instead of just a crit would make her go a long way. She just needs some Hella speed secondaries and a tm boost to get dat 97 speed into action haha.
With phasma victory march jkg gets at turk much quicker and guarantees crit, so full AOE ability block. I keep thinking this would be useful in p3 aat. Not palp or tfp good but there might be something there.
Also sidious usually gets bashed, but I've seen zeta vader squads using him
people bash everything that isn't "meta" currently and complain that there isn't enough diversity in arena
as far as hidden gems go, it's toough to find one these days with the ever increasing power of newly added toons. I'm really hoping Jedi Knight guardian is a hidden gem, but too expensive to gear at the moment xD
Lmao poor jkg. If only the aoe block was 100% on any hit instead of just a crit would make her go a long way. She just needs some Hella speed secondaries and a tm boost to get dat 97 speed into action haha.
With phasma victory march jkg gets at turk much quicker and guarantees crit, so full AOE ability block. I keep thinking this would be useful in p3 aat. Not palp or tfp good but there might be something there.
You know, when I was talking about a tm boost, I was thinking about sth. Phasma didn't even occur to me haha. (Guess it's been a while since I dusted her off)...that 50% boost would help alot more than a 30% from sth, plus the guaranteed crit
I think I shall max my phasma now and start playing around with her a bit.
Ventress is ok. She has decent damage but is slow if she's not the leader...Even then she's slow by comparison to fast toons. Her dispell is handy but there are better options. Her main attack can stun too. Her aoe refreshes on a kill shot so that's a plus.
I was using ventress in an empire team palp, RG, shoretrooper, tfp and ventress. With mods she had 263 speed vs an insta taunt team(278 with no buffs), so she would go first remove taunt, then tfp could ability block whoever you want, followed by palp AOE stun, then a quick shock. Crackling doom leaves rebels and Jedi with 0 health all the time and that we fantastic for spamming ventress AOE. With zeta unique it would be very easy to have her use AOE kill 2 toons and gain 100%tm. The biggest issue I had with that team was the empire RNG factor. If you missed one buff immunity, or stuns didn't land I would most likely loose.
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There are a lot of non meta teams that work very well.
Droids have been fairly meta proof.
Rex lead can still hold its own, team composition varies from pseudo meta, and out
Similarly to Phasma lead, although I'm not sure she is hanging in there as much any more.
Jedi can make a great team, just not sure the jedi only team really makes the top 10 without a lot of work. Probably a mixed team. It's not the jedi fault, it's just that there are no 5 jedi that you can't find a good reason to sub 1 or 2.
Well i mean toons like plo, people usually dismiss him, but I've seen some folks say he can be alright in certain situations.
Also sidious usually gets bashed, but I've seen zeta vader squads using him
Yeah I feel ya on the jedi part. I've been able to get top 10 this past week on a feb. shard with
Qgj zeta
Ani
Aayla
Yoda
Shore
If I had gk, not sure how much replacing shore with him would actually help me. I know the cleanse and retribution is a big plus, but shore helps by eating those big shots.
people bash everything that isn't "meta" currently and complain that there isn't enough diversity in arena
as far as hidden gems go, it's toough to find one these days with the ever increasing power of newly added toons. I'm really hoping Jedi Knight guardian is a hidden gem, but too expensive to gear at the moment xD
Lmao poor jkg. If only the aoe block was 100% on any hit instead of just a crit would make her go a long way. She just needs some Hella speed secondaries and a tm boost to get dat 97 speed into action haha.
What I wonder is wether his unique triggers on his own death.
then again, he's probably not quite good enough for arena.
I just feel if you can't make a team based on that toon being there, it's more of a novelty. Which is great in a game about collecting iconic toons.
Plo is no good because he was good and should be there. He good in a strong team, but could easily be replaced.
If that 1 toon contributes to the strategy of the strong meta, then yes.
But the other day I found a lvl15 4* square mod with 12 speed and literally called in a "hidden gem"
Dont forget her Ship is one of the best! Ashoka is a solid toon!
I would bet that CUP could be subbed in for side and you wouldn't suffer.
Team synergy doesn't equate to contribution to strategy. It's not a bad thing but there are toins that don't have synergy that would fill that spot better.
I am not knocking these toons or the team synergy, it's just those toons are not the toins that win those battles, in the case of sid, he adds negative effects for vader that is a plus, but other toons could just as easily do that and would also add their own stand alone value.
HR Scouts was my vanity toon way back before mods. I loved using him and he was the main reason why I got a 7* Palpatine the first time it rolled out. TM manipulation, Stun and good damage he was in my line ups over leia in most cases.
NS Initiate has the potential to be good because she does great damage, can apply buff immunity and has a huge health pool. Sadly NS are lacking and there Synergy is poor. Assaj Zeta may help them but not enough IMO
Someone mentioned Resistance teams and they couldn't be more right. Let me just put it this way.
Finn lead Zeta
Rey
Poe
RT
Shore trooper
They completely annihilated my arena team in the last tournament which was
Boba lead
Palp
TFP
Anakin
RG
Finn is really underrated (This guys mods were really good too JIC)
General Grevious is still missing a little something but the truth is, he is very good as DPS he hits like a beast. I have a friend that does better with GG instead of Nebit in phase 2 of tank.
Also people really bash on Plo Koon but I love him. Use potency set mods on him with speed secondary's and you are going to enjoy him too. He has a dispell on basic, can apply offense down and give TM to all Jedi and clones. His dispel on basic can save you big time from taunters and even the now dreaded Chaze combo.
The only Buff I would like to see on Plo to improve his overall Viability is maybe to add a Zeta that has a 100% chance to dispel all the buffs on the target toon instead of just a chance to plus apply buff immunity or ability block because you know zetas are expensive and should drastically improve a toon. (Also a base potency buff would look nice)
Ventress is ok. She has decent damage but is slow if she's not the leader...Even then she's slow by comparison to fast toons. Her dispell is handy but there are better options. Her main attack can stun too. Her aoe refreshes on a kill shot so that's a plus.
Very pleasantly surprised.
With phasma victory march jkg gets at turk much quicker and guarantees crit, so full AOE ability block. I keep thinking this would be useful in p3 aat. Not palp or tfp good but there might be something there.
You know, when I was talking about a tm boost, I was thinking about sth. Phasma didn't even occur to me haha. (Guess it's been a while since I dusted her off)...that 50% boost would help alot more than a 30% from sth, plus the guaranteed crit
I think I shall max my phasma now and start playing around with her a bit.
I was using ventress in an empire team palp, RG, shoretrooper, tfp and ventress. With mods she had 263 speed vs an insta taunt team(278 with no buffs), so she would go first remove taunt, then tfp could ability block whoever you want, followed by palp AOE stun, then a quick shock. Crackling doom leaves rebels and Jedi with 0 health all the time and that we fantastic for spamming ventress AOE. With zeta unique it would be very easy to have her use AOE kill 2 toons and gain 100%tm. The biggest issue I had with that team was the empire RNG factor. If you missed one buff immunity, or stuns didn't land I would most likely loose.