The only Arena team I haven't been able to beat...
I'm only level 58, so it's not like I'm at end game or have fought the biggest and baddest around. I consistently finish top 20 in my relatively new 'server' though, and rarely find anyone I can't beat.
I've lost the odd game against players five or six levels higher than me, but generally speaking they've been due to RND and I'm able to beat them in a rematch.
However, I've now come up against a team that I've fought twice, once he didn't lose a single toon, and once I killed one before losing.
HK47 (L), Poggle, IG88, IG86, Poe.
Just, wow. If I'd known how devastating this team was, I'd have been building toward this all along. Is this team as strong approaching the 70 mark?
I run Phasma (L), Sid, Dooku, Daka, Fives. (6*, 6*, 4*, 4*, 6*. All max gear.)
Not the best team in the world, but it does a job for me.
The first time my Dooku went first, missed stun, Poe exposed every one of my toons with taunt. Poggle buff, IG86 assist killed Dooku, IG88 AOE reduced most of my team to red. Died soon after.
Second match Dooku and Daka both went first, both missed stuns, Poe only exposed two toons. But despite killing Poe, I was still destroyed pretty quickly.
I've beaten other Poe teams, so it's not just the Poe factor, but I really was gobsmacked by this lineup.
Should I be rethinking my team and working toward a similar lineup? Or will it tail off in the late 60s/get nerfed when the meta changes and adjustments are made to damage or health?
I've lost the odd game against players five or six levels higher than me, but generally speaking they've been due to RND and I'm able to beat them in a rematch.
However, I've now come up against a team that I've fought twice, once he didn't lose a single toon, and once I killed one before losing.
HK47 (L), Poggle, IG88, IG86, Poe.
Just, wow. If I'd known how devastating this team was, I'd have been building toward this all along. Is this team as strong approaching the 70 mark?
I run Phasma (L), Sid, Dooku, Daka, Fives. (6*, 6*, 4*, 4*, 6*. All max gear.)
Not the best team in the world, but it does a job for me.
The first time my Dooku went first, missed stun, Poe exposed every one of my toons with taunt. Poggle buff, IG86 assist killed Dooku, IG88 AOE reduced most of my team to red. Died soon after.
Second match Dooku and Daka both went first, both missed stuns, Poe only exposed two toons. But despite killing Poe, I was still destroyed pretty quickly.
I've beaten other Poe teams, so it's not just the Poe factor, but I really was gobsmacked by this lineup.
Should I be rethinking my team and working toward a similar lineup? Or will it tail off in the late 60s/get nerfed when the meta changes and adjustments are made to damage or health?
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Heavy damage is the standard right now, any high DPS teams with Poe work OK.
Get daka to 6. Heal early with lumi.
I don't think that would make a difference unfortunately, she wouldn't go ahead of Poe, and other than Fives & Phasma most of my toons just die as opposed to getting to low health, so the heal wouldn't help.
I agree getting him to a higher star level would help, but at the moment he's actually the best chance I have of getting lucky against this team. If he were to hit (or even double hit) his stun first turn then I might actually win.
There are setups that can beat it regularly. QGJ is a good start, he can nullify the taunt while doing offense up on your whole team. There are like 3 characters that are dedicated droid killers, who nobody has thought to farm yet. But at the moment it's one of the most well synergized squads available for FTP.
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Yeah, I'm working on QGJ at the moment, whether or not he's the solution I guess I'll see
Also, going back to your point. I wouldn't be aiming to kill Poe first turn, should I be? Even if I do kill Poe before he taunts, does that really solve my problem? I don't get exposed, but all their big hitters are still there.
My tactic would hopefully be to stun Poe (at this level my Dooku goes first and my Daka can also go ahead of Poe depending on RND), and then take out one of the glass cannons. I think ideally killing or stunning Poggle would be good too, but I think I'm better off going for 86 or 88.
From what I see you are lacking damage atm. Phasma multi-attack leader skill sounds cool combined with Fives and Dooku, but the percentage is too low for me (18%) and Sid crit would be much more useful to increase damage against glass cannon like IG-88. He should be the one you target first, stun; ability block; do whatever necessary to nullify his AoE (before Poe taunts) in the first round and I think you will be able to survive - Without the AoE, IG-86 and HK at the maximum probably will make your chars HP go to red and you will be able to heal after that. Switch Fives with Lumi (her force blast will help eliminate IG-88) of other DPS you have and I think you are all set.
Yes you should aim to be able to kill him. The danger of Poe is the Expose of 2-3 chars POWERS UP IG-88 which will increase damage 15% when you suffer a negative effect. But Poe will at the same time move Your chars to turn 8 or 9 or 10. So, if you kill him him before he moves in, the drones would go later, IG-88 will not add 15% damage per char on its AoE, and tour chars won't have expose. Thus you'll kill, ability block, stun or self buff or heal (eg Lumi heal or a Defense Up), and be pretty much a great chance of wiping the entire enemy good bye. Even if the two droids fire up, most likely only one of your chars is dead, and they are all glassy folks good as dead.
If their Poe acts, its Poogle (no definitely) acts, you cannot focus fire on them, and they have dots/expose, will call allies and will kill 2 chars while still behind Poe for the next turn.
Another tactic is kill IG-88 before he acts. Instead of trying to kill Poe, you kill the beast that will do 4-7k per char. So you will end up with 4 chars, and with a heal, you may soon subdue them. But Poogle works against you and how many times enemy crits you is a coin toss.
The other (best, but perhaps most costly/difficult) option is to use a speed DPS squad. Turn 1 high damage attacks; Rey, Dooku (more stars), HRS, GS, Leia, Sid. If your squad is faster than Poe it will tear this build apart - 88 in particular (the biggest threat next to Poe) dies very quickly.
Obviously the easiest option is to get Poe and/or QGJ yourself. The build is designed for taking maximum advantage of Poe's taunt and winning in the first round. You can either break it down before it happens, or survive it and then wipe them out. Either way I reccomend you flesh out your roster a bit more before taking on top team setups like this one, or most Poe-based builds.
Having your own Poe alongside Jawa would help. Many people underestimate a 7* Jawa