All Buffs are Bugged
For some time I have suspected that the Teebo stealth bug was merely the tip of a massive iceberg of a bug affecting all buff types, and recently I just got confirmation that this is almost certainly true. While doing the final ship droid challenge I used Mace's capital ship to put a multi turn taunt onto Sun Fac. Immediately after he was fired on by a ship with a buff and then the taunt vanished.
Assuming that this isn't somehow unique to only these buffs it means that if you are running a ZQGJ lead and Yoda goes first with his BM he will only have one turn of foresight left and will overwrite the two turns on everyone else so that they lose it immediately after they go. If you use Qui-Gons dispel and give your team offence up for three turns and they then get a shorter offence up from any other source they will lose those extra turns.
Presumably this is also going to be a problem with debuffs as well, give someone a two turn ability block with Boba Fett, and if someone else hits them with another ability block before their next turn they will now only be blocked for one turn. Only HOTs and DOTs wouldn't be affected by this.
This is a massive bug that affects all parts of the game, and it is pretty much impossible that the devs wouldn't have noticed it back when they first tried to fix Teebo, but instead of fixing it they just chose to ignore it. Really disappointed with yet another example of second rate developement quality from this game, but not really surprised.
Assuming that this isn't somehow unique to only these buffs it means that if you are running a ZQGJ lead and Yoda goes first with his BM he will only have one turn of foresight left and will overwrite the two turns on everyone else so that they lose it immediately after they go. If you use Qui-Gons dispel and give your team offence up for three turns and they then get a shorter offence up from any other source they will lose those extra turns.
Presumably this is also going to be a problem with debuffs as well, give someone a two turn ability block with Boba Fett, and if someone else hits them with another ability block before their next turn they will now only be blocked for one turn. Only HOTs and DOTs wouldn't be affected by this.
This is a massive bug that affects all parts of the game, and it is pretty much impossible that the devs wouldn't have noticed it back when they first tried to fix Teebo, but instead of fixing it they just chose to ignore it. Really disappointed with yet another example of second rate developement quality from this game, but not really surprised.
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If it's a bigger issue, shouldn't it be a bigger part of their to do list...? Just tossing that out there.
I wonder if status effects can just be added to a <list>(), and each instance of a buff has its own turn timer. The status effect method could apply a particular effect as long as the list isn't empty. At the end of each turn, reduce all counters, and if they are 0, remove just that instance from the list. Buff cleansers and such can just immediately clear all clearable lists.
Fixing bugs takes time.... yeah it sucks to be on this end of it.
Bigger issue means more time needed to fix, it doesn't mean more priority.... it should, but it doesn't
Granted my code language and spacing is off I'm sure but it should be pretty close to that. Been a long while.
I think the problem with using if statements to skip it is that if they had the one turn stealth, they'd be skipping a chance to get it again for the next turn.
They definitely dont seem to, often in dark side I'll have 1 boss remaining with a 2 turn stun from palp and I can 'stun' them again with daka or rg but they still get the full 2 turn stun.
This might have something to do with the fact that when you taunt with a stealthed character, the taunt overrides the stealth and stealth disappears. If a taunting character gets stealthed the stealth will override the taunt. Debuffs don't need to worry about other debuffs conflicting with them. You can Deathmark a character and inflict any other debuff you want and it won't matter because none of them have any impact on the other. But you can't be stealthed and taunt at the same time, so there needs to be some sort of override. Maybe all buffs have this override function with eachother like stealth and taunt.
For the if statements you could use:
If CBD < NBD-1:
NBD()
Else:
do nothing
New/current buff duration.
It would need else ifs if there are special additions (like STH taunt).
While I dislike the fact that these buffs are all bugged, I had never realized this, but it could be potentially useful. Then again I usually run my Jedi in p1 and Boba gets to have more fun later in p3 or p4. Can probably still work if you AOE to give GG tactical maneuvering and then the magnaguard taunt will be dispelled at the end of the turn as long as whoever AOE'd was debuffed by the magnaguards as well.
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Some of you remember this. I bet it's the same devs.
Maybe, I have never really kept track of when tactical manuevering is going to happen though, just thought it might be worth mentioning
If anyone noticed in the latest "Ground War" event, using the event's special, "Stand Aside", for Teebo, while stealthed, would cause his Stealth to disappear.
That is not really a true test of the issue.
The overall problem is one debuff or buff overwriting a current one. If you apply the same debuff from the same character the debuff will extend.
Your example with tfp.
He inflicts bi for 2 turns.
Some characters take a turn and have 1 turn left with bi.
Tfp again inflicts bi for 2 turns.
The ones that had 2 turns left with bi have 2 turns still the ones that had 1 turn left will have it changed to 2 turns.
Same thing is what allows 5's to do a permanent speed down in raid. As long as he reapplies before opponent takes 2nd turn he will keep them with speed down.
I am pretty sure haven't paid that much attention, that I have seen the issue with cassian.
I will try to test tomorrow in GW. Cassian first special applies debuffs for 2 turns he second can reapply those same debuffs for 1 turn. So if say he ability blocks someone with his first special that should be 2 turns but if he uses his second to copy onto that same character it will overwrite the 2 turns ab with a 1 turn ability block.
It might be a bit more complicated if the magnitude of each buff is different. It won't be enough to track duration, but you'd need to make sure you're apply the right amount. And does that mean that applying a lesser buff overrides the larger, or do you always get the larger benefit while it hasn't timed out?
Of course, there's some speculation there. But given that the amount of speed reduction on 5s needed to be lowered, it seems likely each buff or debuff has a strength value in addition to duration.
But, yea, if it's working for debuffs then why not buffs.