His damage speed and reasonable survivability just seems like a bit much to me. Others kinda do too but he really sticks out like a sore thumb.
He's way too powerful for a no name toon but not a game changer. So doesn’t really need a nerf. Plus he has to be the most easily farmed toon who's also handy. Great toon for F2P too.
Leave him alone, for beep's sake. Unless this thread is trolling at all nerf callers...
Disclosure: I didn't farm him, big mistake but like I said, no big deal.
Telling someone to suck it up and calling someone a butter up are agressive and **** behaviors, starting a post with such attacks renders any further opinion by the **** presented null and void. It's my right to ignore that person, and let them know why they and aren't being responded to. While also showing I'd like to if they can communicate without attacks assumptions, strawmen, putting words in others mouths.
You called the previous poster "son" I would venture to guess that was not your son, so you began downtalking people here on your first response.
Suck it up buttercup is a term, as is the term you used, son. I saw that was the type of linguistics that you used so I thought going into that type would be the best way to convey a point, apparently not. Not a personal attack so do calm down. Calling one son is talking down to them, suck it up buttercup is actually a term from a comedy movie so it was an asttempt at humor after your mad post than talking down to the first person to respond. It was followed with valid points on other characters that have the same problem you complained about, with one difference, they are not cantina farmable(which is where you must choose from very good options)
You start by declaring my post a nerf post which is wasn't
Then used a term referring to me as upset or having to "suck up" my hurt feeling which didn't exist so you bioth called upset and in need of calming and put the words nerf in my mouth. Which I never said it's **** behavior, you may have to accept you are one.
Calling someone son is as deragatoey as brother, or guy, or man, or dude.
I can see patching bugged characters. I can also see patching characters with out of balance leader abilities or team buffs\debuffs. I can't see any reason to nerf a character that has none of those issues. He is fast. His attack is above average. He has average health. What is the problem? He calls an assist? So do 6 other toons. I can't even think of a valid argument to nerf him.
I can see patching bugged characters. I can also see patching characters with out of balance leader abilities or team buffs\debuffs. I can't see any reason to nerf a character that has none of those issues. He is fast. His attack is above average. He has average health. What is the problem? He calls an assist? So do 6 other toons. I can't even think of a valid argument to nerf him.
Well.. He does look like a bug. Maybe OP has a phobia?
uhhh... he can OHKO someone at the very start of the match. If he's going to do that much damage he should at least be slower and have lower health like a true glass cannon. Is that not at least a somewhat valid argument?
uhhh... he can OHKO someone at the very start of the match. If he's going to do that much damage he should at least be slower and have lower health like a true glass cannon. Is that not at least a somewhat valid argument?
In case you have not noticed, GS absolutely cannot OHKO a target by his lonesome, he can hit 7k critical, on offense up (which never happens at the start, so we will drop it to 4k). This leaves upwards of 6k damage to be dealt from a single basic blow of a character, which I can assure you, is impossible for most characters.
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I'd like to partially apologize. I'm jut passionate about star wars and this game I just find the community unwilling to dicuss anything on the powerful side of the spectrum without getting defensive, aggressive, and at times just mean. It always derails into claims of jealousy, sore loosing,
That being said I could have been more precise in the original post, and nicer afterwards so I apologize and take back the uncool things I said though I will not edit them out.
I truly feel the speed+one shot meta is anathema to the game long term, and now that it's not a poe coin flip anymore it's become even more slanted towards putting all the super fast characters and then hoping yours wins once again, coin flips for who's round 6/7 peeps go first.
First what is "too much bombad"? (From O.P.) .. And where did the term "Stopped reading at buttercup because jerks who attack people don't deserve to be heard. (Eaywen) come from?
Is this some crazy new slang?
I feel old.
Bombad is gungan for bad **** in episode 1. The rest was DarthMasterShawn being told why I refused to read his long post because I don't have to listen to people **** about stuff I diddnt say.
uhhh... he can OHKO someone at the very start of the match. If he's going to do that much damage he should at least be slower and have lower health like a true glass cannon. Is that not at least a somewhat valid argument?
In case you have not noticed, GS absolutely cannot OHKO a target by his lonesome, he can hit 7k critical, on offense up (which never happens at the start, so we will drop it to 4k). This leaves upwards of 6k damage to be dealt from a single basic blow of a character, which I can assure you, is impossible for most characters.
Factual. He can self buff on next turn, or OHK after poggle buff. You would have to get extremely lucky calling in FOTP or Ig86 for a critical to get a OKH on his special. @Heisen, do you even GOH bro?
I'd like to partially apologize. I'm jut passionate about star wars and this game I just find the community unwilling to dicuss anything on the powerful side of the spectrum without getting defensive, aggressive, and at times just mean. It always derails into claims of jealousy, sore loosing,
That being said I could have been more precise in the original post, and nicer afterwards so I apologize and take back the uncool things I said though I will not edit them out.
I truly feel the speed+one shot meta is anathema to the game long term, and now that it's not a poe coin flip anymore it's become even more slanted towards putting all the super fast characters and then hoping yours wins once again, coin flips for who's round 6/7 peeps go first.
You have nothing to apologize for, people did in fact put words into your mouth, partly because that is where your post seemed to be heading.
The significance of Critical-Utopian Socialism and Communism bears an inverse relation to historical development.
First what is "too much bombad"? (From O.P.) .. And where did the term "Stopped reading at buttercup because jerks who attack people don't deserve to be heard. (Eaywen) come from?
Is this some crazy new slang?
I feel old.
Bombad is gungan for bad **** in episode 1. The rest was DarthMasterShawn being told why I refused to read his long post because I don't have to listen to people **** about stuff I diddnt say.
uhhh... he can OHKO someone at the very start of the match. If he's going to do that much damage he should at least be slower and have lower health like a true glass cannon. Is that not at least a somewhat valid argument?
In case you have not noticed, GS absolutely cannot OHKO a target by his lonesome, he can hit 7k critical, on offense up (which never happens at the start, so we will drop it to 4k). This leaves upwards of 6k damage to be dealt from a single basic blow of a character, which I can assure you, is impossible for most characters.
Factual. He can self buff on next turn, or OHK after poggle buff. You would have to get extremely lucky calling in FOTP or Ig86 for a critical to get a OKH on his special. @Heisen, do you even GOH bro?
Yes, I GoH bro @Widget_gaget . Do you not have maxed out GS? He can crit up to 7k WITHOUT buff, and then add the assist. He also crits very often, and calling another hard hitter if you're running with 3 other hard hitters is not what I would call extremely lucky. Even Poggle would hit hard because of geonosian buff.
Which makes him no different than qgj or ig86, except he doesn't have the added critical chances ig86 has, or leader speed buff, special debuff, or team offense up that qgj has.
Which makes him no different than qgj or ig86, except he doesn't have the added critical chances ig86 has, or leader speed buff, special debuff, or team offense up that qgj has.
At least ig86 is slower and has slightly less health, and is only worth putting in for droid synergy. QGJ is another arguably OP toon. I'm not saying GS is all alone in OP land, just arguing that it's not unreasonable to think he deserves a tweak. Though part of the problem might just be that he can jump to g9.
uhhh... he can OHKO someone at the very start of the match. If he's going to do that much damage he should at least be slower and have lower health like a true glass cannon. Is that not at least a somewhat valid argument?
In case you have not noticed, GS absolutely cannot OHKO a target by his lonesome, he can hit 7k critical, on offense up (which never happens at the start, so we will drop it to 4k). This leaves upwards of 6k damage to be dealt from a single basic blow of a character, which I can assure you, is impossible for most characters.
Faced one in GW today. He took out my 11k HP Sid first move. 7K crit plus his assist. If he was Darth Vader, okay. Of all the nerf dooku, nerf poe even, nerf fives threads I have seen, GS actually makes the most sense to me. Even FOTP is very average without protection.
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uhhh... he can OHKO someone at the very start of the match. If he's going to do that much damage he should at least be slower and have lower health like a true glass cannon. Is that not at least a somewhat valid argument?
In case you have not noticed, GS absolutely cannot OHKO a target by his lonesome, he can hit 7k critical, on offense up (which never happens at the start, so we will drop it to 4k). This leaves upwards of 6k damage to be dealt from a single basic blow of a character, which I can assure you, is impossible for most characters.
Faced one in GW today. He took out my 11k HP Sid first move. 7K crit plus his assist. If he was Darth Vader, okay. Of all the nerf dooku, nerf poe even, nerf fives threads I have seen, GS actually makes the most sense to me. Even FOTP is very average without protection.
Events like those are purely situational, it's not like you experience a one hit from GS every battle. I do understand where you are coming from, but plenty of other characters can do the same.
In another game, the GS may have attacked one of your higher health characters, and not have killed him.
The significance of Critical-Utopian Socialism and Communism bears an inverse relation to historical development.
GS is a glass cannon with too much health and speed. Fotp has low speed and health and represents a glass cannon characteristics. Even qui gon is similar to GS with the high damage and speed but much lower health.
uhhh... he can OHKO someone at the very start of the match. If he's going to do that much damage he should at least be slower and have lower health like a true glass cannon. Is that not at least a somewhat valid argument?
In case you have not noticed, GS absolutely cannot OHKO a target by his lonesome, he can hit 7k critical, on offense up (which never happens at the start, so we will drop it to 4k). This leaves upwards of 6k damage to be dealt from a single basic blow of a character, which I can assure you, is impossible for most characters.
Faced one in GW today. He took out my 11k HP Sid first move. 7K crit plus his assist. If he was Darth Vader, okay. Of all the nerf dooku, nerf poe even, nerf fives threads I have seen, GS actually makes the most sense to me. Even FOTP is very average without protection.
Events like those are purely situational, it's not like you experience a one hit from GS every battle. I do understand where you are coming from, but plenty of other characters can do the same.
In another game, the GS may have attacked one of your higher health characters, and not have killed him.
Well, what really drew my attention to it was that GS's hit took a fully healthy Sid to zero HP on just GS's shot. I think that it was just a graphical glitch and I did a restart to watch it again. Same thing, 7K and emptied at the very start of the match, even before the assist. I think that maybe the assist would have defeated him but the game showed it early. GS is tough and if you've seen my other posts, I've even supported a temp ban on people calling for nerfs. GS could use a bit of balancing, maybe, I'm on the fence on whether he really outperforms other similar attackers or not. I was a little shell shocked yesterday and it just seems weird to me that a generic character does so well. But again, I'm not fond of all these clone wars characters being in this game. That is a personal Lucas/Star Wars feeling thing though.
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He's way too powerful for a no name toon but not a game changer. So doesn’t really need a nerf. Plus he has to be the most easily farmed toon who's also handy. Great toon for F2P too.
Leave him alone, for beep's sake. Unless this thread is trolling at all nerf callers...
Disclosure: I didn't farm him, big mistake but like I said, no big deal.
You start by declaring my post a nerf post which is wasn't
Then used a term referring to me as upset or having to "suck up" my hurt feeling which didn't exist so you bioth called upset and in need of calming and put the words nerf in my mouth. Which I never said it's **** behavior, you may have to accept you are one.
Calling someone son is as deragatoey as brother, or guy, or man, or dude.
Well.. He does look like a bug. Maybe OP has a phobia?
That being said I could have been more precise in the original post, and nicer afterwards so I apologize and take back the uncool things I said though I will not edit them out.
I truly feel the speed+one shot meta is anathema to the game long term, and now that it's not a poe coin flip anymore it's become even more slanted towards putting all the super fast characters and then hoping yours wins once again, coin flips for who's round 6/7 peeps go first.
Factual. He can self buff on next turn, or OHK after poggle buff. You would have to get extremely lucky calling in FOTP or Ig86 for a critical to get a OKH on his special. @Heisen, do you even GOH bro?
You have nothing to apologize for, people did in fact put words into your mouth, partly because that is where your post seemed to be heading.
Yes, I GoH bro @Widget_gaget . Do you not have maxed out GS? He can crit up to 7k WITHOUT buff, and then add the assist. He also crits very often, and calling another hard hitter if you're running with 3 other hard hitters is not what I would call extremely lucky. Even Poggle would hit hard because of geonosian buff.
A lot of emotions today over a particular nerf. Don't worry about it.
At least ig86 is slower and has slightly less health, and is only worth putting in for droid synergy. QGJ is another arguably OP toon. I'm not saying GS is all alone in OP land, just arguing that it's not unreasonable to think he deserves a tweak. Though part of the problem might just be that he can jump to g9.
Faced one in GW today. He took out my 11k HP Sid first move. 7K crit plus his assist. If he was Darth Vader, okay. Of all the nerf dooku, nerf poe even, nerf fives threads I have seen, GS actually makes the most sense to me. Even FOTP is very average without protection.
Events like those are purely situational, it's not like you experience a one hit from GS every battle. I do understand where you are coming from, but plenty of other characters can do the same.
In another game, the GS may have attacked one of your higher health characters, and not have killed him.
LOL
I support this idea! Even if you did intend it as a joke!
Game used to be fun when it wasn't a grind... if I wanted a grind I would have went and played old school Everquest or some Korean MMO!