Title says it all. According to the explanation of manipulate: Characters: Deal Special damage to target enemy, grant them Speed Up for 1 turn, or if they already had Ability Block, inflict Stun for 1 turn instead. When this Speed Up expires, inflict Ability Block for 1 turn. These effects can't be Resisted. Raid Bosses: Deal Special damage to target enemy and inflict Defense Down for 2 turns, which can't be Resisted.
Speed up expires as soon as their turn starts, so that is when they should get ability block. What use is manipulate if they get ability block AFTER they use a skill.
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The speed up expires once the turn is OVER. Not during the turn of the toon. Explain to me, which toon/ability does that?
Teebo, giving stealth to other Ewoks. (I think it's bugged)
Speed up expires as soon as a character gets a turn not after. And as explained in the skill, ability block is applied when speed up expires.
If you have a dispelled like DT, he can strip speed up off of them resulting in AB before they can move.
Another instance where this is useful is DN.
Nihilus can use Drain Force and be ready to annihilate but on his next turn will be ability blocked.
No it does not, what positive/negative status effect, expires during someone's turn? They all expire once the turn is over.
Let me think for a second.... Oh yes ALL BUFFS expires at the beginning of someone's turn.
On the other hand, all debuffs expires AFTER their turn is over.
Are we playing the same game?
Buffs expire at the END of that toon's turn, just like debuffs...
Fair enough, you guys are right and Im an **** (no sarcasm) but even so why do we want to apply ability block on someone that already used the skill you want to block in the first place? It makes no sense
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You didn't play with teebo for rancor or what guys?
Well, it kinda makes no sense but it's a new feature that brings more into the gameplay, you can time it right so you can stun a toon on thrawn's next basic, even boba might come out of the bench for his ability block and thrawn stunning on first turn then fracture ^_^
You are not the first one that says Boba, but why doesnt anyone think of Krennic Lead? Even so, I think the ability block should come as soon as their turn start else it is close to useless
Sorry mate, wasn't there when I started typing, was thinking on boba + thrawn combo, not gonna happen then, thanks for the info.
No it stuns from anyone's ability block. I've been using Krennic lead with Thrawn to verify
The ability block stays with the stun
This guy seems to atleast get the point of buffs and debuffs.
I do this and it works, but Boba's execute/dispel doesn't work. It's weird. DT and a Nihilus dispel and apply ability block but boba doesn't. Maybe it has to do with stripping speed up AND ability block, in which case, there better be the extra damage applied lol
Think of Thrawn mixed with either Nihilus or Deathtrooper. Either one increases cooldowns. Thrawn then applies speed up. That person gets to their turn, when they can't use the special because of the cooldown increase, and then is ability blocked for the following turn. Additionally, the speed up won't trigger a cleanse.
Actually, on offence you can swap Thrawn's turn meter with Deathtrooper's to dispel enemy buffs or increase their cooldowns faster than the Deathtrooper could ever go on his own. It still won't do much against Jedi because of the foresight, but fracture on GK is going to really cripple any Jedi team anyways.