Elephant in the Room - Zeta Crunch
August 26, 2018 8:52PM
edited August 2018
Zetas are one of the most important mats to get into the entire game. They affect Ship stats, can take a team from zero to nothing. They help with unique counters and allows us to Zeta the “not so desirable toons” at the moment (example Dengar or Paploo) to push good teams and make them better. Here is the problem. You don’t want wayyy too many Zeta mats going out as this will make Zetas not as useful. But the Zeta farm even with additional MT and Wicket events are helping but not enough.
Marquees are coming out fast which I am not complaining about. But this is a business, right? If marquees keep coming out and you want us to buy them, we want to have the ability to Zeta them. We won’t buy most toons if we don’t plan on using them in the future. It’s impossible to do so when New marquees keep coming our newer and better than the last which staying on target is harder. We either need a New drop event like A Wicket and Talzin every week or, may I suggest something bold?
Make the fleet ability mats battles where you will get between 1-2 Zeta mats per battle. This would guarantee 2 Zeta mats at minimum a 3 times a week; with at least 6 a week. That means we would have almost a full Zeta in three weeks. Before someone says that’s too fast consider this.
In the last two months, there are 10 Zetas you would need to fully Zeta them (BH and Old Republic). So it would take 2 months to maybe get 3 of those Zetas. We still will never catch up and that’s okay. We want to still make choices but by not having enough Zeta mats you force us to hold onto Zetas and just wait for Legendary events so we don’t miss the powerful Meta toons, while not buying and ignoring all the other toons. We go back to cookie cutter squads without diversity. We need more Zeta mats. The 1-4 Zeta mats would stop the zero Zeta mats not showing up too. This would help the player base greatly and add more diversity as people would buy more toons and gear the not so used ones to try new strategies with them. Please help us keep making this game better!!!
Marquees are coming out fast which I am not complaining about. But this is a business, right? If marquees keep coming out and you want us to buy them, we want to have the ability to Zeta them. We won’t buy most toons if we don’t plan on using them in the future. It’s impossible to do so when New marquees keep coming our newer and better than the last which staying on target is harder. We either need a New drop event like A Wicket and Talzin every week or, may I suggest something bold?
Make the fleet ability mats battles where you will get between 1-2 Zeta mats per battle. This would guarantee 2 Zeta mats at minimum a 3 times a week; with at least 6 a week. That means we would have almost a full Zeta in three weeks. Before someone says that’s too fast consider this.
In the last two months, there are 10 Zetas you would need to fully Zeta them (BH and Old Republic). So it would take 2 months to maybe get 3 of those Zetas. We still will never catch up and that’s okay. We want to still make choices but by not having enough Zeta mats you force us to hold onto Zetas and just wait for Legendary events so we don’t miss the powerful Meta toons, while not buying and ignoring all the other toons. We go back to cookie cutter squads without diversity. We need more Zeta mats. The 1-4 Zeta mats would stop the zero Zeta mats not showing up too. This would help the player base greatly and add more diversity as people would buy more toons and gear the not so used ones to try new strategies with them. Please help us keep making this game better!!!
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It’s hard sometimes even farming them to get them. I went two weeks without a Zeta mats in battles. So that doesn’t help.
But let’s say you are super lucky: you get 2 a month consistently (not once in a while but every month).
That would get you 4 in 2 months. They already have 10 Zeta toons you need to do on average every 2 months now plus legendaries. Now keep piling on new marquees and legendaries. It’s like compound interest.
Instead of being ahead you are overwhelmed and just holding onto Zetas for Legendaries or key toons your guild uses in TW.
In my post I didn’t say to hand them out. I’m saying make it 1-2 on the battles for a Zeta mat. Like they do for the gear. They have a low and a high amount. So there is a chance
This game is about resource management. Hording and picking and choosing is the name of this game. Choose poorly and your fleet or teams suffer or you can’t unlock the legendary or heroes journey character.
If Zetas were more readily available, they would widen the gap between whales and ftp, causing an imbalance.....
Moreover, every toon does not "require" a zeta, as BubbaFett said.
I know plenty of end game, non-whale players that earn 2-3 zetas a month...they don't know what to do with them. You don't just slap them on every toon that has a zeta ability.
Further, if you want zetas, farm the squads that give you them in the events (ewoks, NS, etc.)
It would've been nice not to have such a dry streak of course. The RNG has too broad of a possibility I think. If there was at least some check in the system to say, "hey, the RNG has screwed this person on zeta piece drops for 4 weeks now, hmm, better reset that and give him 3-4 for a couple events in a row!" then perhaps that'd be helpful? Just spit-balling here.
zeta every character, then yes there is a zeta crunch. I’m sitting on a few because I have no one I want to spend the zeta on.
2 to 3 zetas is very much possible. I put a zeta on my assaj a month ago. Maybe a few days past a month but since then I've done 2 zetas and I have 20 in the bank now for when i unlock treya. Whatever I get from the challenges plus all my fleet currency goes to it and tw payout I get 2-3. I did the talzin event this past time too but I did manage to get 60 zeta mats in the past month
First in fleet would get you 27 zeta mats a month.
Win in TW at 120M +, is 12 a month.
That's 39, which is almost 2 full zetas.
With a possible (and very unlikely) 6 a week from challenges being 24.
So 39-63, or 2-3 full ones.
2 a month is very doable and up to 3 is possible and with the extra from last month rolling in and a few random events it all seems slightly more likely. So his statement of 2-3 is not as off the mark as you make it sound.
But this is the best way to look at it.>>
True and you forgot the zetas from the daily login
Gearing and farming characters takes much longer than getting their zetas ready. I'd almost argue that omegas are a bigger crunch right now.
And if you arent first in Fleet Arena and keep getting locked out of top 20 what then?
I'm maybe in to 200 to 400's in fleet every day. Just make sure I'm in top 500 at the moment
It's an awesome part of the game......
Shift your mind away from "I need this", to "yes, I have a zeta...... Where can I put it to make the most difference'..... And, solute yourself for the accomplishment of getting one....
Im confused about the opening statement “ zetas can take a team from zero to nothing”. What does that mean? Seems you have a rival with more zetas but the truth is you have just as many opportunities as they do to earn them. Thats a level playing field, you’re asking for it to be faster, but it’s already level. Yes choose wisely who you zeta all the toons dont need them as you stated.
You also forgot the talzin event which is at least 2 max of 4 each day and runs for 2 days. If you don't have a 7 star talzin then get her on farm. Not only is she good in pretty much every game mode but just having her 7 star is free zeta's
Wicket too! 7* him and you get more zetas!
Top—50 still receive 1300 currency. Not bad at all.
So I'm expecting 2/month going forward, though I only just hit that pace. On rare occasions things go faster: I just finished the Mythic bb8 tier for the first time, so there was a bonus 3 zeta mats this weekend. That sort of thing. I just finished a zeta on Thursday & I have 11 mats today. Obviously that's not normal and includes 3 special mats from the mythic event, but I can see whales and others who have really well developed rosters (my ewoks are terrible) getting 3 zetas in a month.
To me, this is all about right. What's wrong to me is the slicing materials thing. They seem to be thinking that you can be okay with upgrading 1 mod per month from Gold => 6Dot. Given that you also have to get your mods up to gold (most of my best mods are actually Blue, since there was a 1-in-4 chance of any Blue mod with speed secondary to get 2 x speed upgrades, 3 dollops of speed total), you're talking about getting one mod per what? Two months?
How long does it take a toon to go from 0 gear to g12 if you put all of your gear resources into one toon? About a month? Maybe less?
Whatever that number is, and I expect EA/CG has data on that, It should take that long to upgrade SIX gold mods to 6-Dot if all your mod-resources go to slicing materials. It shouldn't take longer to take a toon with 6 x 5-Dot mods => 6 x 6-Dot mods than it does to take a toon from no gear to g12. In fact, in my opinion, it should take less. You already had to spend forever farming just the right mods to begin with. This is more like going from g10 = > g12.
So, no, I'm not fussed with zetas. OF COURSE I wish I had more, and if EA sent me 150 bonus zeta mats and gave all y'all nothing so that I could get a leg up in Arena on all those folks who aren't EA's favorites, I can state as fact that I wouldn't turn those zetas down.
But I'm fine with zeta rates. I wish fewer toons required a zeta to make them awesome (GK is a great toon with no zetas), but the zeta rate itself is fine.