The problem with double drops is 2×zero shards =0

imageryking · November 23, 2019 1:00AM

Hey CG how about dropping the 2X and just give us 100% drop rate when farming gear and toons/ships!!! That would be a far better gift!!

Abbreviating the swearing doesn't make it less against the rules ~Rtas

TVF · November 23, 2019 1:02AM

Lol I was just talking about how it was nice to have an early 2x0=aavocado post, and here we have an entire thread!

Keep dreaming OP, maybe someday.

I give it a 0.0000000001% chance. But yes, I'm telling you that you have a chance.

No_Try · November 23, 2019 1:02AM

That is 5x drops you know.

Ultra · November 23, 2019 1:46AM

@Monel your thoughts?

Monel · November 23, 2019 1:49AM

Ultra wrote: »

@Monel your thoughts?

Lol, already spoiled.

Monel · November 23, 2019 1:53AM

imageryking wrote: »

Hey CG how about dropping the 2X **** and just give us 100% drop rate when farming gear and toons/ships!!! That would be a far better gift!!

The real problem that I dont understand is if you have 2 pencils and multiply those pencils by 0 would you not still have 2 pencils? Or did they get Thanos'd out of existence?

Ultra · November 23, 2019 1:58AM

Thanos math is 2 x 1/2 = 1

Monel · November 23, 2019 2:04AM

Ultra wrote: »

Thanos math is 2 x 1/2 = 1

Thanos math was broken. In 1970 the population was roughly half of what it is today. So the fact that he wanted to "fix" the worlds problems by eliminating 50% means that "fix" would only last 50 years. Not very effective and very poor research by the writers.

Nyanperor · November 23, 2019 2:23AM

I don't think that makes his math broken, only his long term planning abilities.

SithVicious · November 23, 2019 2:29AM

Ultra wrote: »

Thanos math is 2 x 1/2 = 1

Isn’t that just regular math?

TVF · November 23, 2019 2:46AM

I don't even need the actually double drops, these threads are reward enough for me.

Monel · November 23, 2019 2:46AM

Nyanperor wrote: »

I don't think that makes his math broken, only his long term planning abilities.

True, but still makes it poor research by the writers.

Camakin · November 23, 2019 3:51AM

The reason they do double drop events is because it is a huge money maker.
They know that 2x0=0 and they know you know it as well but what they are counting on is that you’ll save energy and do a bunch of 20x sim, get about 4 short from whatever you need and you’ll impulsively buy a $9.99 pack that’s giving you 25% more crystals.

Camakin · November 23, 2019 3:57AM

imageryking wrote: »

Wow, and I thought the idea of 100% drop rate for a few days would be a much better show of appreciation from a company that's making millions, 3 days were players can actually get the energies worth of shards as opposed to 1 for 5!! But I guess everyone enjoys getting 1 and zero shards a day!

You thought wrong. They’ve never done that in the almost 4 years I’ve been playing and they never will. It doesn’t make them money. Double drops gives the sucker false hope that he’ll get more shards so he spends more money when the special is going on.
Vegas doesn’t comp you things because they like you and for being a great slot puller. They comp you rooms so they get you in the casino to spend money. It’s the same thing just not as glitzy and doesn’t have free drinks

TVF · November 23, 2019 4:11AM

This is why we can't have nice things.

Naver666 · November 23, 2019 1:42PM

Monel wrote: »

Ultra wrote: »

Thanos math is 2 x 1/2 = 1

Thanos math was broken. In 1970 the population was roughly half of what it is today. So the fact that he wanted to "fix" the worlds problems by eliminating 50% means that "fix" would only last 50 years. Not very effective and very poor research by the writers.

Not going to research this but possibly birth rate was higher in the 70's compared to now

RandomSithLord · November 23, 2019 1:50PM

imageryking wrote: »

Wow, and I thought the idea of 100% drop rate for a few days would be a much better show of appreciation from a company that's making millions, 3 days were players can actually get the energies worth of shards as opposed to 1 for 5!! But I guess everyone enjoys getting 1 and zero shards a day!

Your energy's worth of shards is precisely ~1.3/5 battles, not 5/5, that's what drop rate means.

DarjeloSalas · November 23, 2019 2:33PM

Naver666 wrote: »

Monel wrote: »

Ultra wrote: »

Thanos math is 2 x 1/2 = 1

Thanos math was broken. In 1970 the population was roughly half of what it is today. So the fact that he wanted to "fix" the worlds problems by eliminating 50% means that "fix" would only last 50 years. Not very effective and very poor research by the writers.

Not going to research this but possibly birth rate was higher in the 70's compared to now

It was. The rate of population increase is lower now than it was in 1970.

Nikoms565 · November 23, 2019 2:41PM

Honestly, if they wanted to drop max attempts to 3 and then do guaranteed drops, mathematically it would be about the same as double drops - at least as far as hard nodes go. Just saying.

DarjeloSalas · November 23, 2019 2:46PM

Wrong. Drop rate is 30-33%.

So on average 10 attempts would get you 6 shards during double drops. Your suggestion nets you 3.

Nyanperor · November 23, 2019 3:09PM

DarjeloSalas wrote: »

Wrong. Drop rate is 30-33%.

So on average 10 attempts would get you 6 shards during double drops. Your suggestion nets you 3.

If you're referring to Nikoms idea, wouldn't it be the same though? If you get 6 average from one refresh for 10 attempts you'd just get a guaranteed 6 from the one refresh to get it to 6 attempts. Just lose the chance for more.

Gifafi · November 23, 2019 3:23PM

Monel wrote: »

Ultra wrote: »

Thanos math is 2 x 1/2 = 1

Thanos math was broken. In 1970 the population was roughly half of what it is today. So the fact that he wanted to "fix" the worlds problems by eliminating 50% means that "fix" would only last 50 years. Not very effective and very poor research by the writers.

the bigger problem is not so much his math, but the fact that overpopulation isn't the, or even an, issue.;

kalidor · November 23, 2019 3:29PM

The OP is suggesting an expected value of 1, which for shards is equivalent to triple drops (.33*3). But 3*0 is also zero, so they probably wouldn't like that either.

Ultra · November 23, 2019 4:28PM

Gifafi wrote: »

Monel wrote: »

Ultra wrote: »

Thanos math is 2 x 1/2 = 1

Thanos math was broken. In 1970 the population was roughly half of what it is today. So the fact that he wanted to "fix" the worlds problems by eliminating 50% means that "fix" would only last 50 years. Not very effective and very poor research by the writers.

the bigger problem is not so much his math, but the fact that overpopulation isn't the, or even an, issue.;

Thanos doesn’t understand resource management

He sounds like a typical swgoh poster, wouldn’t be surprised if he made an account in here

Gifafi · November 23, 2019 4:33PM

Ultra wrote: »

Gifafi wrote: »

Monel wrote: »

Ultra wrote: »

Thanos math is 2 x 1/2 = 1

Thanos math was broken. In 1970 the population was roughly half of what it is today. So the fact that he wanted to "fix" the worlds problems by eliminating 50% means that "fix" would only last 50 years. Not very effective and very poor research by the writers.

the bigger problem is not so much his math, but the fact that overpopulation isn't the, or even an, issue.;

Thanos doesn’t understand resource management

He sounds like a typical swgoh poster, wouldn’t be surprised if he made an account in here

he certainly has the whiny "it's not fair!" and "Why can they have what I don't have?!?" mentality down. Welcome, @ThanosFTP4Life!

Ironjehoshaphat · November 23, 2019 4:37PM

In double drop events instead of doubling what we “could” get, CG should double the drop rates. That way we have a better chance to get something rather than zero.

Ironjehoshaphat · November 23, 2019 4:40PM

Monel wrote: »

Ultra wrote: »

Thanos math is 2 x 1/2 = 1

Thanos math was broken. In 1970 the population was roughly half of what it is today. So the fact that he wanted to "fix" the worlds problems by eliminating 50% means that "fix" would only last 50 years. Not very effective and very poor research by the writers.

Remember he dusted half of the entire universe. Not just earth. Earth could’ve been threatened by others throughout the universe and those resources would be even more scarce.

Ephran · November 23, 2019 4:42PM

Monel wrote: »

Ultra wrote: »

Thanos math is 2 x 1/2 = 1

Thanos math was broken. In 1970 the population was roughly half of what it is today. So the fact that he wanted to "fix" the worlds problems by eliminating 50% means that "fix" would only last 50 years. Not very effective and very poor research by the writers.

He's called the MAD Titan for a reason dude. He wasn't supposed to be right.

Gair · November 23, 2019 5:39PM

OP makes a point though. You are better off farming something that drops to give 2x vs a drop with 0 giving no return.

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