Why does Jawa Engineer need so many Stun Cuffs?

NicWester · December 1, 2019 10:39PM

I’m gearing up Jawas on account of they’re a very good Geonosian counter that leaves Traya available for other teams.

So how come I’m throwing so many Stun Cuffs at Engineer? His damage is percent health based, isn’t it? Am I missing something about Thermal Detonators?

Baby_Yoda · December 1, 2019 10:56PM

Why does fives take like 550 Carbantis?

Because they're coded to.

RandomSithLord · December 1, 2019 11:05PM

Baby_Yoda wrote: »

Why does fives take like 550 Carbantis?

Because they're coded to.

Carbantis give STR which is essential to tanks, maybe not the best example.

But yes, generally a good portion of the gear pieces give stats that are not crucial or are straight up useless and you just fill them to get to the next tier.

TVF · December 1, 2019 11:11PM

Why are you gearing up Jawas when there are more counters than just Traya?

Baby_Yoda · December 2, 2019 1:36AM

TVF wrote: »

Why are you gearing up Jawas when there are more counters than just Traya?

Hes bootleg Memphisto

trevyclause · December 2, 2019 3:09AM

TVF wrote: »

Why are you gearing up Jawas when there are more counters than just Traya?

Cause it’s so much fun to watch the screen freeze for a few seconds after throwing Scavs bomb... and then all of the Geos go bye bye. Quite enjoyable.

TVF · December 2, 2019 3:18AM

I asked OP who stated it was to leave Traya free for something else.

NicWester · December 2, 2019 5:05AM

GrandMasterEpsilon wrote: »

Damage is percent health based, you are not missing anything, you are throwing many stun cuffs at him in order to go to the next gear level.

This is just a repeat of "why do I put equipment with attack on Grievous" or "why do I equip B1 with things that give health" or "why does Hoda equip things that give potency or attack or crit chance". You do it because CG has decided that you'll have to grind, so get grinding.

Thing is, there's usually some sort of outside the box explanation you can give--be it futureproofing or something else. A Rebel with no debuffs would still benefit from Potency, since under Luke they can chunk off TM.

Or the secondary stat on the gear is what you're actually getting (ie: Mk4 dog tags on Greivous--you don't benefit from the physical damage, but the armor penetration still works). Or, again in the case of GG, the gear was set up when he was a regular attacker and never updated for some reason.

But from the very start the Engineer has never done actual damage and I can't see a case where this is futureproofing. It boggles the mind.

TVF wrote: »

Why are you gearing up Jawas when there are more counters than just Traya?

Because I've got them, so I might as well use them for something! Besides, this is a team that's literally only good against one other team right now, whereas Traya and other counters are useful against other teams. Why use a bazooka to kill some bugs when you can use those bazookas against something more bazookaworthy?

trevyclause wrote: »

TVF wrote: »

Why are you gearing up Jawas when there are more counters than just Traya?

Cause it’s so much fun to watch the screen freeze for a few seconds after throwing Scavs bomb... and then all of the Geos go bye bye. Quite enjoyable.

I usually don't even get that far. Mod for health and protection, not speed, so that you just outlast them and then they all take turns exploding one after the other :P

TVF · December 2, 2019 5:06AM

Well good luck. I think anyone who gears Jawas is wasting resources better used elsewhere but that's just my opinion.

Alijar1 · December 2, 2019 8:53AM

They need to arrest any unwanted Mandalorians trespassing on their sandcrawler

jasonjay · December 2, 2019 9:49AM

Jawa Engineer is actually quite useful with a droid team. I sometimes use him as a replacement for BB8 in a GG nuke team. Gives TM and revives droids. Underrated character.

MagicMatthews99 · December 2, 2019 10:31AM

TVF wrote: »

Well good luck. I think anyone who gears Jawas is wasting resources better used elsewhere but that's just my opinion.

My G12 Jawas say otherwise.

Katsapliakos · December 2, 2019 11:33AM

Jawas will be needed in epic confrontation to unlock mandalorian dude,start gearing them up now

Javick_Starage · December 2, 2019 12:36PM

TVF wrote: »

I asked OP who stated it was to leave Traya free for something else.

Does Traya counter Geos? Haven’t geared her yet as I’ve had other priorities (Shaak Ti, sucks)

No_Try · December 2, 2019 12:38PM

Javick_Starage wrote: »

TVF wrote: »

I asked OP who stated it was to leave Traya free for something else.

Does Traya counter Geos? Haven’t geared her yet as I’ve had other priorities (Shaak Ti, sucks)

Yes, undermanned at that. Traya,sion+things works which allows you to save dn for other teams.

TVF · December 2, 2019 12:51PM

MagicMatthews99 wrote: »

TVF wrote: »

Well good luck. I think anyone who gears Jawas is wasting resources better used elsewhere but that's just my opinion.

My G12 Jawas say otherwise.

Missing the point.

Tezza23 · December 2, 2019 3:06PM

How is he missing the point exactly? He levelled up a squad to do a specific job and they do that job therefore no gear has been wasted .

TVF · December 2, 2019 3:10PM

Tezza23 wrote: »

How is he missing the point exactly? He levelled up a squad to do a specific job and they do that job therefore no gear has been wasted .

There's several other teams that do the same job, do it more efficiently, and have more use than just as one specific counter that you have to hope you can actually use.

Tezza23 · December 2, 2019 3:31PM

And those teams will be needed for other squads too, and in some scenarios your gonna have to use them. And in my case I forgot I had Geos to contend with and used traya on Cls , Now with Jawas I don’t think your ever gonna have that problem of useing them too prematurely.

Also there’s guild wars that factor into this as well , geo walls are a pain for some guilds

TVF · December 2, 2019 3:33PM

Poor tactics doesn't make gearing Jawas a wise choice.

Gifafi · December 2, 2019 4:26PM

jawas are trash and only a good counter to bugs, resource-wise, if you already had them at least semi-built. in the good/bad old days jawas were needed in order to unlock certain mods so people had worked on them. Thus, throwing a little more gear on them to counter bugs was not the worst idea. However, if you haven't put anything into jawas yet it would be a massive waste of resources (which is what tvf is saying, imo). But to each their own. Do you.

Vertigo · December 2, 2019 4:45PM

NicWester wrote: »

I’m gearing up Jawas on account of they’re a very good Geonosian counter that leaves Traya available for other teams.

So how come I’m throwing so many Stun Cuffs at Engineer? His damage is percent health based, isn’t it? Am I missing something about Thermal Detonators?

@NicWester
This was actually a complaint a while back, and they added a potency boost to Thermal Detonators based partially on your physical damage. I don't know if they ever released the % ratio that gets added from the physical damage to detonators landing, but it is non-zero. So those stun cuffs actually do help slightly in terms of landing the detonators. It won't increase the damage of the detonators though.

I will try to find the post on it, but it's from a realllllllly long time ago so it might take some time searching.

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