Sidious potency fixed?

Tiggus · April 2, 2016 11:38PM

I've used and faced Sidious a few times since the update (Arena, GW, challenges) and he's no longer his all-potent old self:

It took me Boba Fett being healed fully 3 times in the Droids challenge (on auto) to realize that my Sidious hadn't given him heal block
Played some more with Sidious and all his attacks were "resisted"
Went into GW and the same applied to the enemy Sidious-es: much fewer DoTs, and fewer heal-blocks too.

That's great news for GW! It will become much easier now that we don't have to handle these pesky heal-blocks on every stage!
On the other hand, Droids challenge will no longer work on auto... it will just drain your battery to death.

I, for one, welcome that change (fix -- he has 0% potency after all)!

DestructusKloud · April 2, 2016 11:44PM

Yeah, if he was an STD, you would need a pat on the back and you'd be fine.
It's disappointing that a maxed Sidious can't even land one debuff.
I mean, one time he crit the entire enemy team apply extra debuffs and they resisted literally everything.
Needs a rework or rebalance or re-something. He's just s**t for the best sith in the franchise.

Big_Russ · April 3, 2016 12:40AM

My Sid rarely applied heal immunity in challenges and Dark Side Hard Nodes. I did notice Kylo applying it more than Sid

JediMasterGibs · April 3, 2016 12:44AM

Mine applies his debuff with about 60-70% success but I have seen it dip a lot lately

Cexy · April 3, 2016 12:53AM

I'm not seeing this, When I use him on droid challenge the block always gets applied, and earlier in GW he got 3 of my toons blocked in a row

Tiggus · April 3, 2016 2:38AM

Yes, perhaps he was just having a bad RNG day, but it was significantly worse than every other day (Sidious is probably the single guy I'm battling the most, maybe with Lumi). Without precise numbers, he used to DoT and heal-block a lot (maybe 90%), and yesterday/today, it was sometimes (maybe 50%).
But well, as I said, I didn't gather stats, so crowd wisdom is my next best guess / confirmation.

Timitock · April 3, 2016 2:46AM

I use Yoda.

None of Sids debuffs seem to stick to my team for the first few turns...

Tiggus · April 3, 2016 11:43PM

Hmm weird. I've played the Droids challenge 6 times now, and I assume Sidious is hitting about 10 times per challenge (all 3 battles, standard and special hits combined), and he landed exactly 0 debuff. All DoTs were explicitly "resisted" (the word appears 2 times on all 3 or 4 toons).

0 out of 60 starts to be a little too low to be just a bad losing streak, no?

My Sidious is 7* level 70 (and used to land debuffs regularly), maybe he got ill?

Not like I mind so much because it just means I have to keep an eye and target the droid before Boba Fett while the thing plays in auto, and I don't use Sidious anywhere else, but it looks a lot like a bug.

In GW, it looked like he applies debuffs less than before, but he does sometimes.

Anyone else's Sidious is sick too (or not sick?)

unit900000 · April 3, 2016 11:59PM

Same here Sid healing immunity don't seem to land much any more

Multar · April 4, 2016 12:07AM

I think that Boba take a buff in the gear challange, cause no negative status can be applied on him.. I've tried even with anakin and others but he doesn't take any debuff.. Sidious works as usual in other battles so i think is just for that challange the problem

ChefHaze · April 4, 2016 5:40AM

Normally I don't buy into this kind of thing, but I've noticed many fewer heal immunities landing. Especially in the challenge. Wonder if this is a permanent thing

Toolio · April 4, 2016 5:44AM

Yeah I noticed Sid hasn't landed a DOT all day.

Hyperalloy · April 4, 2016 7:20AM

I don't think this ridiculous lack of successful debugging will be fixed unless his obtainable lvl 80 gear actually grants him significant potency. Trouble is, they made the already absurdly painful gearing process even more painful by arbitrarily adding meaningless gear ingredients that do nothing other than stonewall character progression.

noizer · April 4, 2016 8:41AM

Tiggus wrote: »

Hmm weird. I've played the Droids challenge 6 times now, and I assume Sidious is hitting about 10 times per challenge (all 3 battles, standard and special hits combined), and he landed exactly 0 debuff. All DoTs were explicitly "resisted" (the word appears 2 times on all 3 or 4 toons).

Just tryed the droid challenge too and I had 0 debuffs but not only from Sid but from any other player, including daka stuns, and poggle hability block on any of the 3 stages. Perhaps this challenge has some stats to avoid negative effects

Celeburnio · April 4, 2016 9:22AM

I have a feeling that's happening at all challenges, except for the Mace and Savage ones, where I can reliably de buff them. Debuffs are just needed for challenges, and I'm starting to believe I can't land a stun on Vader, Boba or Cad...

Big_Boss · April 4, 2016 10:03AM

Yeah I am a full Jedi user and he didn't apply healing immunity nearly as much on my squad.

DREAM COME TRUE!!!!!

CronozNL · April 4, 2016 11:12AM

Challenges work differently than real battles. I also notice the bosses usually have a high resist factor. I think it's intended and in GW/Arena or LS/DS missions this should be the same still.
Don't they have increased tenacity or potency (whichever on defense) that causes bosses to resist more?

Same for the Mace challenge, lot of stuff doesn't get applied a lot.

Alexone · April 4, 2016 11:16AM

Yes i see this too. Maybe they increased Boba Fett's resistance in the challenge. Still seems to be the same in arena/gw.

Nonemo · April 4, 2016 11:22AM

Yep, I noticed the change in the Boba challenge. Haven't noticed any other change yet though. I'll keep my eyes peeled.

Fantazy · April 4, 2016 11:55AM

He does land healing immunity in GW - just not 100% of the time, which is a relief. Today he landed 3 in one node. So it's not broken.

LeoRavus · April 4, 2016 12:23PM

Mine's the same in the GW. His healing immunity lands often, and so does the AI's.

As for the training droid challenge, only the droid on the right heals Boba. Just hit auto and select that droid. They'll kill it and then move to Fett. Don't have to worry about him being healed.

Skilz · April 5, 2016 2:50AM

Why does every single **** gw battle have this **** **** in it. I'm so sick of Sid... I want to destroy this **** game sometimes.

Colonal_Sanders · April 5, 2016 3:23AM

Well the 3 challenge bosses are totally immune to stun and apparently it's impossible to steal their buffs. I tried to take fetts potency up with Yoda and he refused. I tried a few times but I guess he's allergic or something? Its not like the cert challenge got any harder, they just made him more immune. Still hits like a limp tissue paper so it's whatevs

Megadeth3700 · April 5, 2016 4:21AM

He no longer applies it on Boba Fett. But he still landed on me in every GW battle yesterday...

Duckoo · April 5, 2016 4:23AM

I miss Sid being more potent. Rex doesn't give my characters a second turn nearly as much anymore.

CUFCfan616 · April 5, 2016 4:25AM

Definitely the case that most of the challenge bosses are resistant to all debuffs except the ones calling for you to use debuffa like the savage or windu challenges.

However, in arena and gw is now as potent as a wet fart, at least for a player controlled team, AI controlled Sid still lands twice as many debuffs as mine will. It's bad enough that I've just dropped Sid from my arena squad as without the debuffs he's not a useful toon

Darth_Nihilus · April 5, 2016 4:41AM

Yeah my Sidious hasnt been landing anything lately either.

Megadeth3700 · April 5, 2016 4:53AM

Darth_Nihilus wrote: »

Yeah my Sidious hasnt been landing anything lately either.

Have you noticed an increase in your regular enemies gear/star level? Maybe because everyone's teams are all maxed out now there is generally a lot more Tenacity running around

Tiggus · April 5, 2016 10:09AM

I just played a Hard Node battle and, like in challenges, all debuffs (Sidious' and others') failed on the first 2 stages (the ones with generic clone troopers in my case).

It looks like they've tweaked (fixed/broken?) something on some of these PvE battles: debuffs just don't work anymore. Not that it really matters anyhow, except tit makes it harder to use these to "test" your alternate toons now.

JediMindTricks · April 5, 2016 1:09PM

I've noticed this also, especially today. Did they say they reduced it? I didn't see anywhere saying they did. If not I guess it would be considered a "stealth nerf" which is really sad. With the time, materials, credits and sometimes real money it takes to max a character out if they start stealth nerfing it's not gonna stop with Sid. Makes me wonder if it's even worth playing this game anymore. I don't think I wanna spend money on a game to get a character max only to be weakened later on. Nerfs are the main reason why I really hate playing online games.

EA is going on about making wrong decisions like this if indeed it was nerfed, I mean there are toons that remove Sids heal immunity so there is no need to nerf it really. People just need to farm those debuff toons.

LMYYYKS · April 5, 2016 1:20PM

So the devs have successfully reduced a toon from useful to mediocre. His AoE doesn't land much DoT and his basic can roughly land a HI 1/10. He is now just another spare rotational toon without a purpose.
Luckily I stopped starring him up since a few days back when he just got his 5th star.

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