Anybody NOT want guilds to be added?

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Mstrdrgn1012
441 posts Member
edited April 2016
I don't...

For one simple reason.
My experience from other 'freemium' games I've played always ends up the same.

At first we get to see a few 'top guild wars' and you get recruited by higher ranked guilds and so on; good fun and all.

Exclusive rewards can only be obtained by ranking top guild.

And then we have the final result:

Top guild is for whales-only with 50x the points of the 2nd ranked guild.
Then you have the next 4 ranks who are also in a whole other category than the the 6th rank, so basically all FTP players will eventually realize they'll never get any of the exclusive rewards and most guilds start falling apart...


"So don't join one then" you say. But the sweet rewards!!! Plus the team-work aspect of it is enjoyable. Until it isn't.

It's like being given a sample of cake, then you get to watch fat pigs tear thru it and eat it all while you drool and stare blankly....


Bah, this whole post is kinda pointless.... But still. I fear a huge mass disappointment coming if guilds are introduced.

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  • Timitock
    2844 posts Member
    I concur.
  • Plague_Inc
    451 posts Member
    edited April 2016
    Judging by how they did the arena (splitting into shards so non-superwhales have a chance), everyone will have a chance to compete if there are guild wars or something similar.
  • Bah, this whole post is kinda pointless

    You're 100% correct.
    I fear a huge mass disappointment coming if guilds are introduced.

    You're 100% incorrect.
    My name is cosmicturtle333, aka CT-333, aka Threes.
  • J0K3R
    2286 posts Member
    edited April 2016
    Bah, this whole post is kinda pointless

    You're 100% correct.
    I fear a huge mass disappointment coming if guilds are introduced.

    You're 100% incorrect.

    Lol... Ur my new fave poster... I miss @BentWookiee ... Since being a mod he posts way less :(
    May the force be with you. It shall free you.
  • One thing I worry about would be ladder collusion.

    For example.. say I have 2 rivals that I know are shooting for my timezones payout.

    Go on guild chat "hey anyone want to tie up player x and y while I cruise to number 1" type of ****
  • J0K3R
    2286 posts Member
    One thing I worry about would be ladder collusion.

    For example.. say I have 2 rivals that I know are shooting for my timezones payout.

    Go on guild chat "hey anyone want to tie up player x and y while I cruise to number 1" type of ****

    Creating a guild all in one shard/server will b super hard
    May the force be with you. It shall free you.
  • But..When I post now everyone takes me literally. :|

    In any case, why be worried about not being able to be the best? I would much rather try and fail than just worry about how things "might" be and pray and hope nothing happens.

    To try and fail is much better than to never try because of fear of failure.

    That's just me though. :|

  • J0K3R wrote: »
    One thing I worry about would be ladder collusion.

    For example.. say I have 2 rivals that I know are shooting for my timezones payout.

    Go on guild chat "hey anyone want to tie up player x and y while I cruise to number 1" type of ****

    Creating a guild all in one shard/server will b super hard

    Already happening.. :/

  • I don't...

    For one simple reason.
    My experience from other 'freemium' games I've played always ends up the same.

    At first we get to see a few 'top guild wars' and you get recruited by higher ranked guilds and so on; good fun and all.

    Exclusive rewards can only be obtained by ranking top guild.

    And then we have the final result:

    Top guild is for whales-only with 50x the points of the 2nd ranked guild.
    Then you have the next 4 ranks who are also in a whole other category than the the 6th rank, so basically all FTP players will eventually realize they'll never get any of the exclusive rewards and most guilds start falling apart...


    "So don't join one then" you say. But the sweet rewards!!! Plus the team-work aspect of it is enjoyable. Until it isn't.

    It's like being given a sample of cake, then you get to watch fat pigs tear thru it and eat it all while you drool and stare blankly....


    Bah, this whole post is kinda pointless.... But still. I fear a huge mass disappointment coming if guilds are introduced.

    +1
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  • Timitock
    2844 posts Member
    Guilds are not Star-Warsy.

    Call it a Union or Federation or something.

    They already exist in this game.

    Guilds are drama.
  • Barrok
    1753 posts Member
    Just you OP
  • xJazzx
    808 posts Member
    It will make the rich poor gap larger

    Whales will group up with Whales to destroy the f2p
  • J0K3R
    2286 posts Member
    J0K3R wrote: »
    One thing I worry about would be ladder collusion.

    For example.. say I have 2 rivals that I know are shooting for my timezones payout.

    Go on guild chat "hey anyone want to tie up player x and y while I cruise to number 1" type of ****

    Creating a guild all in one shard/server will b super hard

    Already happening.. :/

    Omg.. Ppl have so much time
    May the force be with you. It shall free you.
  • J0K3R
    2286 posts Member
    edited April 2016
    xJazzx wrote: »
    It will make the rich poor gap larger

    Whales will group up with Whales to destroy the f2p

    We are now complaining about features in the game that arent there yet but we are asking for... Can the devs win??

    :wink:
    May the force be with you. It shall free you.
  • xJazzx wrote: »
    It will make the rich poor gap larger

    Whales will group up with Whales to destroy the f2p

    So what?

    It's about time whales had a decent advantage.
    My name is cosmicturtle333, aka CT-333, aka Threes.
  • Timitock
    2844 posts Member
    edited April 2016
    J0K3R wrote: »
    xJazzx wrote: »
    It will make the rich poor gap larger

    Whales will group up with Whales to destroy the f2p

    We are now complaining about features in the game that arent there yet but we are asking for... Can the devs win??

    :wink:

    They arent complaints, they are reality checks.

    "WE" are not asking, YOU are, and you arent as unanimous as you think.

    MANY gamers are twice shy about guilds, having been bitten before.

    They make more sense in games that have a grouping function.
  • Timitock wrote: »
    J0K3R wrote: »
    xJazzx wrote: »
    It will make the rich poor gap larger

    Whales will group up with Whales to destroy the f2p

    We are now complaining about features in the game that arent there yet but we are asking for... Can the devs win??

    :wink:

    They arent complaints, they are reality checks.

    "WE" are not asking, YOU are, and you arent as unanimous as you think.

    MANY gamers are twice shy about guilds, having been bitten before.

    So don't join one if you can't handle it.
    My name is cosmicturtle333, aka CT-333, aka Threes.
  • Timitock
    2844 posts Member
    Timitock wrote: »
    J0K3R wrote: »
    xJazzx wrote: »
    It will make the rich poor gap larger

    Whales will group up with Whales to destroy the f2p

    We are now complaining about features in the game that arent there yet but we are asking for... Can the devs win??

    :wink:

    They arent complaints, they are reality checks.

    "WE" are not asking, YOU are, and you arent as unanimous as you think.

    MANY gamers are twice shy about guilds, having been bitten before.

    So don't join one if you can't handle it.

    I suppose you think that was a clever insult, but I dont need a guild to hold my hand, I strike my own path.
  • J0K3R
    2286 posts Member
    I have played games where guilds worked great and others where they didnt.

    But if they create guilds, just dont join one.
    May the force be with you. It shall free you.
  • Timitock wrote: »
    Timitock wrote: »
    J0K3R wrote: »
    xJazzx wrote: »
    It will make the rich poor gap larger

    Whales will group up with Whales to destroy the f2p

    We are now complaining about features in the game that arent there yet but we are asking for... Can the devs win??

    :wink:

    They arent complaints, they are reality checks.

    "WE" are not asking, YOU are, and you arent as unanimous as you think.

    MANY gamers are twice shy about guilds, having been bitten before.

    So don't join one if you can't handle it.

    I suppose you think that was a clever insult, but I dont need a guild to hold my hand, I strike my own path.

    It wasn't an insult, it was a fact. If you don't want to be in a guild then don't join one.

    The entitlement of some forum members is ridiculous.

    "If I can't have fun then neither can you"

    Get over yourselves.
    My name is cosmicturtle333, aka CT-333, aka Threes.
  • Timitock
    2844 posts Member
    edited April 2016
    Timitock wrote: »
    Timitock wrote: »
    J0K3R wrote: »
    xJazzx wrote: »
    It will make the rich poor gap larger

    Whales will group up with Whales to destroy the f2p

    We are now complaining about features in the game that arent there yet but we are asking for... Can the devs win??

    :wink:

    They arent complaints, they are reality checks.

    "WE" are not asking, YOU are, and you arent as unanimous as you think.

    MANY gamers are twice shy about guilds, having been bitten before.

    So don't join one if you can't handle it.

    I suppose you think that was a clever insult, but I dont need a guild to hold my hand, I strike my own path.

    It wasn't an insult, it was a fact. If you don't want to be in a guild then don't join one.

    The entitlement of some forum members is ridiculous.

    "If I can't have fun then neither can you"

    Get over yourselves.

    Telling me I can't handle it is an insult.

    I am not trying to prevent your fun, I am trying to prevent guilds from ruining my fun.

    If guilds are implemented in-game, they will become necessary to be competitive.

    You are not just asking for guilds, but also guild-related battles.

    If you just want the social functions, I have no objection to that.

    I have objections to being forced into a guild to access new content.

    The arrogance of some forum members is pretty ridiculous as well.
  • J0K3R
    2286 posts Member
    Timitock wrote: »
    Timitock wrote: »
    Timitock wrote: »
    J0K3R wrote: »
    xJazzx wrote: »
    It will make the rich poor gap larger

    Whales will group up with Whales to destroy the f2p

    We are now complaining about features in the game that arent there yet but we are asking for... Can the devs win??

    :wink:

    They arent complaints, they are reality checks.

    "WE" are not asking, YOU are, and you arent as unanimous as you think.

    MANY gamers are twice shy about guilds, having been bitten before.

    So don't join one if you can't handle it.

    I suppose you think that was a clever insult, but I dont need a guild to hold my hand, I strike my own path.

    It wasn't an insult, it was a fact. If you don't want to be in a guild then don't join one.

    The entitlement of some forum members is ridiculous.

    "If I can't have fun then neither can you"

    Get over yourselves.

    Telling me I can't handle it is an insult.

    I am not trying to prevent your fun, I am trying to prevent guilds from ruining my fun.

    If guilds are implemented in-game, they will become necessary to be competitive.

    You are not just asking for guilds, but also guild-related battles.

    If you just want the social functions, I have no objection to that.

    I have objections to being forced into a guild to access new content.

    The arrogance of some forum members is pretty ridiculous as well.

    Some ppl dont like guilds cuz they are arrogent and anti-social :)
    May the force be with you. It shall free you.
  • cosmicturtle333
    5004 posts Member
    edited April 2016
    Timitock wrote: »
    Timitock wrote: »
    Timitock wrote: »
    J0K3R wrote: »
    xJazzx wrote: »
    It will make the rich poor gap larger

    Whales will group up with Whales to destroy the f2p

    We are now complaining about features in the game that arent there yet but we are asking for... Can the devs win??

    :wink:

    They arent complaints, they are reality checks.

    "WE" are not asking, YOU are, and you arent as unanimous as you think.

    MANY gamers are twice shy about guilds, having been bitten before.

    So don't join one if you can't handle it.

    I suppose you think that was a clever insult, but I dont need a guild to hold my hand, I strike my own path.

    It wasn't an insult, it was a fact. If you don't want to be in a guild then don't join one.

    The entitlement of some forum members is ridiculous.

    "If I can't have fun then neither can you"

    Get over yourselves.

    Telling me I can't handle it is an insult.

    I am not trying to prevent your fun, I am trying to prevent guilds from ruining my fun.

    If guilds are implemented in-game, they will become necessary to be competitive.

    You are not just asking for guilds, but also guild-related battles.

    If you just want the social functions, I have no objection to that.

    I have objections to being forced into a guild to access new content.

    The arrogance of some forum members is pretty ridiculous as well.

    You not being able to handle it is a fact. Whether or not you want to be insulted by that is your choice. You specifically stated 'MANY gamers are twice shy about guilds, having been bitten before.' That means you had a bad experience. That means you couldn't cope with/deal with/handle it.

    You saying that guilds shouldn't be implemented is preventing my fun. Guilds are not compulsory, they are optional. If you don't like them then don't join one. That's like saying the supermarket shouldn't sell Broccoli because you don't like it. Guess what? Other people do like it, there is a market for it. There is demand. That's why it is sold.
    My name is cosmicturtle333, aka CT-333, aka Threes.
  • If you can't handle the jandal then bugger off.
    My name is cosmicturtle333, aka CT-333, aka Threes.
  • I'd encourage players to join Guilds if only to chat with other players. For some, it's the best part of the game and it may be one of the reasons players hang around the game when it's going through a slow period.

    As for competition, I'm sure the top 3 prizes will be awesome for the top 5 Guilds to battle over. However, I'm also confident that participation prizes will be worth it for free players to casually participate in to get the rewards. An extra event to get prizes is always nice, right?
  • Timitock
    2844 posts Member
    J0K3R wrote: »
    Timitock wrote: »
    Timitock wrote: »
    Timitock wrote: »
    J0K3R wrote: »
    xJazzx wrote: »
    It will make the rich poor gap larger

    Whales will group up with Whales to destroy the f2p

    We are now complaining about features in the game that arent there yet but we are asking for... Can the devs win??

    :wink:

    They arent complaints, they are reality checks.

    "WE" are not asking, YOU are, and you arent as unanimous as you think.

    MANY gamers are twice shy about guilds, having been bitten before.

    So don't join one if you can't handle it.

    I suppose you think that was a clever insult, but I dont need a guild to hold my hand, I strike my own path.

    It wasn't an insult, it was a fact. If you don't want to be in a guild then don't join one.

    The entitlement of some forum members is ridiculous.

    "If I can't have fun then neither can you"

    Get over yourselves.

    Telling me I can't handle it is an insult.

    I am not trying to prevent your fun, I am trying to prevent guilds from ruining my fun.

    If guilds are implemented in-game, they will become necessary to be competitive.

    You are not just asking for guilds, but also guild-related battles.

    If you just want the social functions, I have no objection to that.

    I have objections to being forced into a guild to access new content.

    The arrogance of some forum members is pretty ridiculous as well.

    Some ppl dont like guilds cuz they are arrogent and anti-social :)

    Some guilds attract malcontents. Some clouds are fluffier than others.

    If you want me to take offense, you might want to work on your burns.

    Unless, of course, you MEANT to say that guilds are arrogant and anti-social.

    Because that is what you said....
  • I'd encourage players to join Guilds if only to chat with other players. For some, it's the best part of the game and it may be one of the reasons players hang around the game when it's going through a slow period.

    As for competition, I'm sure the top 3 prizes will be awesome for the top 5 Guilds to battle over. However, I'm also confident that participation prizes will be worth it for free players to casually participate in to get the rewards. An extra event to get prizes is always nice, right?

    You're assuming there will be a leader board with a #1 prize and whatnot. That may not be the case. It might just be guild vs guild one war per day and whoever wins gets the reward.
    My name is cosmicturtle333, aka CT-333, aka Threes.
  • Timitock
    2844 posts Member
    I'd encourage players to join Guilds if only to chat with other players. For some, it's the best part of the game and it may be one of the reasons players hang around the game when it's going through a slow period.

    As for competition, I'm sure the top 3 prizes will be awesome for the top 5 Guilds to battle over. However, I'm also confident that participation prizes will be worth it for free players to casually participate in to get the rewards. An extra event to get prizes is always nice, right?

    You're assuming there will be a leader board with a #1 prize and whatnot. That may not be the case. It might just be guild vs guild one war per day and whoever wins gets the reward.

    And the reward for people who don't want to join a guild will be...?

    I do not want to follow arbitrary guild rules.
    I do not want to participate in elections.
    I do not want to be bombarded with requests for help.
    I do not want to be admonished for not participating in guild events.
    I do not want to read inane guild chatter.
    I do not want to be subjected to random **** any more than I have to already.

    Guilds are for role-players, power-trippers, gossips, and people that need their hands held.
  • Arijit
    507 posts Member
    Lets worry about what will happen if guilds are implemented, the payouts, the way it will work, guild and sister guilds.

    Let them first implement it. There will be iteration and feedback, more iteration, different prizes etc etc. I get it many will not like, while majority will like. I am sure now also many those who are > 200 rank will want more crystals. Thats life.

    And I agree, its time whales get something more, since ftp can easily challenge them in arena.
  • Timitock wrote: »
    I'd encourage players to join Guilds if only to chat with other players. For some, it's the best part of the game and it may be one of the reasons players hang around the game when it's going through a slow period.

    As for competition, I'm sure the top 3 prizes will be awesome for the top 5 Guilds to battle over. However, I'm also confident that participation prizes will be worth it for free players to casually participate in to get the rewards. An extra event to get prizes is always nice, right?

    You're assuming there will be a leader board with a #1 prize and whatnot. That may not be the case. It might just be guild vs guild one war per day and whoever wins gets the reward.

    And the reward for people who don't want to join a guild will be...?

    I do not want to follow arbitrary guild rules.
    I do not want to participate in elections.
    I do not want to be bombarded with requests for help.
    I do not want to be admonished for not participating in guild events.
    I do not want to read inane guild chatter.
    I do not want to be subjected to random **** any more than I have to already.

    Guilds are for role-players, power-trippers, gossips, and people that need their hands held.

    The reward for not joining a guild is:
    You don't have to follow arbitrary guild rules.
    You don't have to participate in elections.
    You don't have to be bombarded with requests for help.
    You don't have to be admonished for not participating in guild events.
    You don't have to read inane guild chatter.
    You don't have to be subjected to random **** any more than I have to already.


    You either make the sacrifice for the guild rewards or you don't join a guild and don't get the guild rewards.

    It's your choice, but you definitely cannot make that choice for others. The forum is a method of feedback, the devs may see this. They need to know that 99.99999% of forum members want guild battles. This thread is bad for the health of the game.
    My name is cosmicturtle333, aka CT-333, aka Threes.
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