Reality check for F2P: Whales will soon eat you for lunch!
January 14, 2016 3:49PM
edited January 2016
All whale teams have QuiGonJinn and when the level 90 cap is released probably in the next few months, QGJ will be able to upgrade his leadership to increase the speed for all allies. This leadership skill "agility training" will give "+25 speed to ALL allies" and no longer limited to only Jedi.
With a patch, F2P teams will most likely lose one character with even before the F2P player begins his first turn. Just imagine the barrage of burst from FOTP, QGJ and another DPS. Most likely you will absorb at least 15k of damage before you start your turn. Can your glass cannons survive 15k of damage? Also, let's not forget whales' Poe will go before yours and reduce your turn meter and expose your team. Sad, isn't it?
Suggestion: If you play this game to rank top with low amount of cash$ and take pleasure in defeating those who have a better squad, you will find yourself disappointed being ranked perpetually below the whales. Of course, the fact is most mobile games are P2W. This thread is meant to be a reality check for F2P. Enjoy the game and may the force be with you.
Maybe the sharpest minds can chip in. @WhipIT @Qeltar @JohnnySteelAlpha @Keaven @SeroZero @Nonemo @Kylven
Source: http://www.swgohdb.com/heroes/quigonjinn
With a patch, F2P teams will most likely lose one character with even before the F2P player begins his first turn. Just imagine the barrage of burst from FOTP, QGJ and another DPS. Most likely you will absorb at least 15k of damage before you start your turn. Can your glass cannons survive 15k of damage? Also, let's not forget whales' Poe will go before yours and reduce your turn meter and expose your team. Sad, isn't it?
Suggestion: If you play this game to rank top with low amount of cash$ and take pleasure in defeating those who have a better squad, you will find yourself disappointed being ranked perpetually below the whales. Of course, the fact is most mobile games are P2W. This thread is meant to be a reality check for F2P. Enjoy the game and may the force be with you.
Maybe the sharpest minds can chip in. @WhipIT @Qeltar @JohnnySteelAlpha @Keaven @SeroZero @Nonemo @Kylven
Source: http://www.swgohdb.com/heroes/quigonjinn
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Most likely it will be patched, speed boost should apply to the first turn.
Well, it doesn't and it may be by design for exactly the reasons you listed.
Cry wolf when we know for sure IMO!
No srsly. There are more aspects to the game than PvP and the statement that hardcore gamers will be able to defeat leisure gamers is just redundant. Who would finance this game if hardcore/paying gamers didn't get a competitive edge?
No, it's strictly related to leader bonuses that add Speed. The Speed is not factored in on the first wave of actions.
I haven't actually bothered to run tests on if the Speed bonus kicks in after the LEADER takes their first action, or if it's EACH character that gets it after their first action, but I know for a fact my first waves of actions have never been impacted by running QGJ as leader.
Essentially, if you're doing it just to gain a first turn advantage, you're wasting your time. Just doesn't work right now.
For all we know, the "speed/damage meta" could be over in as little as a few hours. Probably not, but could be. Did anyone really foresee the extent of the Barriss nerf? Or Sidious being given 35% dodge against Jedi? I sure didn't.
Don't waste energy on things way out in the future.
ETA: Yes, in general the whales will eat F2P always in games like this. That's how they are designed, because profit is a higher priority than a level playing field. Anyone who can't accept that is better off not playing.
Statements like this need to stickied. I'm ok with free loaders looking for a good time, but whining free loaders? Everyone loves free stuff but to cry "my free jacket is not red/ as warm like the one that guy bought"????
Full disclosure: I'm a free is better but I don't mind paying for something I really love guy. And I'm also all over the forums against whiners, so much so that I'm becoming one
If you truly expect that you should be competing in the same league as the players who effectively pay for the running of this forum and the ongoing development of the game you are terribly naive.
Try your best and be the best of the rest, or versus the big spenders who haven't worked out efficient teams.
I tend to believe that an F2P team can certainly compete against an elite P2W team. If anything, your only problem is keeping up with the energy refreshes the whale will have to hold his position. If you look around, I have posted on many occasions about this problem and the IAP setup as it stands. I'm happy to see your post because when I say similar things, I get written off as crazy or a troll, neither are true.
This is your opinion, whether I agreed or not, I value it....
Absolutely agree good post.
This i second to sticky
Also @Qeltar has the best long term strat for f2p or avg spenders. More or less play the same way.
I also understand OP worries. Depends how many whales (hate that word) you have on the server as well. Man I really want to be in that awesome sharp minded club, where do I apply?
My team was: 6* old Ben, 6* QGJ, 7* Leia, 7* Kylo and 7* Phasma. All purple gear. So three high starred Chromium exclusive characters, by many considered to be OP.
I think we can rest assured that there will always be viable builds for F2P players. GC doesn't want to turn this game into a pure P2W experience. And that's exactly how it's supposed to be... Imo.
lols
*sarcasm meter pegged sir*