Looks like you have a couple of options. A Zader team means they can't fully cleanse the dots, so stick a fast Sid and Boba on there and you will get some good fuel for culling blade and especially execute (say they try to cleanse five dots, they will end up with 10 effects for Boba). Deathtrooper also seems a good choice.
i say get geonosian spy and one shot them from there buffs http://imgur.com/aS5aBNz (this pic was from gw node 12 second battle)
other then that you have plenty of people to choose from to help kill them, rex, nihlius, kylo, maybe palp and death..... idk higher anti meta teams that well just yet
I love posts suggesting GSpy or Asajj as counters for Chaze. I know I do it to but I am sarcastic.
Having to bring toons that have no utillity whatsoever towards the team just for a chance to kill later in battle one of Chirrut or Baze, that have the utility of several toons between them?
Bassically fighting a 4 vs 7 or 8 fight in terms of abilities and roles performed. This is what being balanced means?
And somehow it was decided that they actually need more help in R2 and Ahsoka. Gspy and Asajj are really great, I supose. Them and "I don't kill nobody" B2.
I love posts suggesting GSpy or Asajj as counters for Chaze. I know I do it to but I am sarcastic.
Having to bring toons that have no utillity whatsoever towards the team just for a chance to kill later in battle one of Chirrut or Baze, that have the utility of several toons between them?
Bassically fighting a 4 vs 7 or 8 fight in terms of abilities and roles performed. This is what being balanced means?
And somehow it was decided that they actually need more help in R2 and Ahsoka. Gspy and Asajj are really great, I supose. Them and "I don't kill nobody" B2.
yeah right... boba TOTALLY has zero use. Nihilus too. Oh, and Sith Assassin sucks so bad in this game /sarcasm
I get it that the Empire users feel shunned, but this is not an excuse to hate on rebels. Sith got a good faction pass too and are viable in arena. It's just the empire pass that was weak.
FO/Resistance/rebel/Sith/Jedi all have their contenders in R2/GK/rex/Chaze/Zavage/Zylo etc. and as a squad, they are all viable.
B2 has been useful in arena since his inception. Actually, b2 is one of the most annoying and op toon, in a way. His kit really screws up some of the meta squads. I been working up b2 for forever and a day. His gear is awful, so no he is not a shortterm solution. But he is certainly not a one hit wonder. Good against jedi squads, too.
Also, boba isnt useless. Rex lead with tanky boba and zylo and gk will beat chaze, i think. Maybe add dn or a tank for the fifth man.
Boba is really good if u have speed to let him go first, though. Double block on rex or chirrut to start, and back it up with dn aoe, and u can get a drop on triple cleanse.
Replace EP and SA with DT and GK. You need a tank to protect Tarkin and a dispeller to cleanse Tenacity Up. DT is great in that role and can also slow down rebels by Dazing and Stunning them. DT must go before Vader.
Re B2 just be careful what mods u put on B2. In current meta, this means u screen his mods to give him zero crit chance. His base crit chance is very low.
Aside from jedi gk squads, the 9nly other nonnchaze sqauds i see being competetive all have gk lead and barisse and dn.... or some combo including rex lead and zylo. Or fast zader. So options are there but u still need a healthy dose of meta toons.
If u dont want to use chaze or sith or empire.... rex, gk, and zylo ought to be on ur short list, imo.
Now u could say it isba very short list that will beat a chaze squad.... it is same short list t9 beat sith squads and jedi squads. The top squads are all elite.
^ Exactly... This squad is just as annoying as any Chaze squad. Any way you slice it, you need a huge dose of the "usual suspects." My entire arena is like this. 4 of the usual suspects, plus one random dude... like boba or B2. One team even got Stormtrooper on it.
B2 will be effective against Maul lead, QGJ/yoda/gk, and Rex/Chaze, with the right support.
You can say Chaze is more versatile, because you can run Chaze with, say, Jynn and Cassian... but that squad is pretty weak. You can also run Wiggs and R2 with Chaze, which is pretty good. This is the only real effective squad with Chaze that brings 2 nonmeta toons (wiggs) into play. R2 is meta, IMO, cuz he can run with jedi, too. And probably some other squads that don't use Chaze.
So if you try to run Chaze without at least 2 other meta toons, I think you will have a bad arena squad. With sole exception of Wiggs/R2/Chaze. Most all the other effective Chaze squads will need at least 2 other toons from the list of the usual suspects. And you could easily replace Chaze with same. Most people who have Chaze did not have time to also farm Zylo/GK. Or Zeta Yoda/QGJ. Or Sith. So they're stuck with Chaze, for now.
I love posts suggesting GSpy or Asajj as counters for Chaze. I know I do it to but I am sarcastic.
Having to bring toons that have no utillity whatsoever towards the team just for a chance to kill later in battle one of Chirrut or Baze, that have the utility of several toons between them?
Bassically fighting a 4 vs 7 or 8 fight in terms of abilities and roles performed. This is what being balanced means?
And somehow it was decided that they actually need more help in R2 and Ahsoka. Gspy and Asajj are really great, I supose. Them and "I don't kill nobody" B2.
yeah right... boba TOTALLY has zero use. Nihilus too. Oh, and Sith Assassin sucks so bad in this game /sarcasm
I get it that the Empire users feel shunned, but this is not an excuse to hate on rebels. Sith got a good faction pass too and are viable in arena. It's just the empire pass that was weak.
FO/Resistance/rebel/Sith/Jedi all have their contenders in R2/GK/rex/Chaze/Zavage/Zylo etc. and as a squad, they are all viable.
I never claimed that Boba doesn't have utility outside of countering them, he is probably one of the few of the "direct" counters that has, besides Nihilus. Although their countering is weakened by the fact that they are used (Nihilus more than Boba) with Chaze also.
Ok chaze is part of the meta. As long as chaze got 2 other meta toons on the squad, it is a meta sqaud. The counter is another meta squad.
If u got sith, u make dn the lead. U got no problem. If u got jedi, u got no problem. If u got vader and sa and zid, u got no problem. If u got rex, gk, dn, zylo, u got no problem.
No there is no shortcut. There is no one toon counter. Try to counter any of those meta squads with one toon. Chaze is two toons, and chaze cant beat any of thise squads without at keast two other meta toons, essentially. Chaze is just two toons in the greater pool of what u need.
The only counter to a meta squad is another meta squad. They are all OP as heck. And there is very little room for improvisation. Maybe u can tweak 1 or 2 toons. The other dudes are all off a very short list. So we choose... which terrible farm do i grind out to try to beat arena... and hope it still works when i finish...
Looks like you have a couple of options. A Zader team means they can't fully cleanse the dots, so stick a fast Sid and Boba on there and you will get some good fuel for culling blade and especially execute (say they try to cleanse five dots, they will end up with 10 effects for Boba). Deathtrooper also seems a good choice.
Vs a rex team that will mean instant cleanse and TM up once you land sid AoE. Ofcourse the dots will stick but your opponents full team will be able to move after that.
I have no troubles beating chaze with Rex (l), DN, R2, GK and Zylo.
Make DN fast and you should have no problem.
439-259-888 I have a bad habit of editing my typo's after posting
If they don't have triple cleansers, yeah, palp is good. There's a Sith squad on my shard with Chaze. Zavage is the only other cleanser. I use palps and kill baze first. But his chaze is still low star, so, take that with a grain of salt. My other four toons are the usual suspects.... including Chaze, myself. But a lot of people complain this is one of the most difficult teams to beat... Palps puts the whooping on... B2 prolly works better in most circumstances, though. Palps is always a couple hairs away from biting it, any given time.
B2 has been useful in arena since his inception. Actually, b2 is one of the most annoying and op toon, in a way. His kit really screws up some of the meta squads. I been working up b2 for forever and a day. His gear is awful, so no he is not a shortterm solution. But he is certainly not a one hit wonder. Good against jedi squads, too.
Yeah B2 is a life saver agains Chaze, GK and Rex : I use a Maul team with B2 against them and It works really well (but R2 has added a bit of difficulty for my Maul team)
B2 has been useful in arena since his inception. Actually, b2 is one of the most annoying and op toon, in a way. His kit really screws up some of the meta squads. I been working up b2 for forever and a day. His gear is awful, so no he is not a shortterm solution. But he is certainly not a one hit wonder. Good against jedi squads, too.
Yeah B2 is a life saver agains Chaze, GK and Rex : I use a Maul team with B2 against them and It works really well (but R2 has added a bit of difficulty for my Maul team)
Againt Jedi he's even better
I also use B2, not because I like playing 4 against 5, because I have to.
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Seriously, Chaze counters require far more effort than Chaze themselves. See, I have my team to prove it:
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other then that you have plenty of people to choose from to help kill them, rex, nihlius, kylo, maybe palp and death..... idk higher anti meta teams that well just yet
Having to bring toons that have no utillity whatsoever towards the team just for a chance to kill later in battle one of Chirrut or Baze, that have the utility of several toons between them?
Bassically fighting a 4 vs 7 or 8 fight in terms of abilities and roles performed. This is what being balanced means?
And somehow it was decided that they actually need more help in R2 and Ahsoka. Gspy and Asajj are really great, I supose. Them and "I don't kill nobody" B2.
yeah right... boba TOTALLY has zero use. Nihilus too. Oh, and Sith Assassin sucks so bad in this game /sarcasm
I get it that the Empire users feel shunned, but this is not an excuse to hate on rebels. Sith got a good faction pass too and are viable in arena. It's just the empire pass that was weak.
FO/Resistance/rebel/Sith/Jedi all have their contenders in R2/GK/rex/Chaze/Zavage/Zylo etc. and as a squad, they are all viable.
Boba is really good if u have speed to let him go first, though. Double block on rex or chirrut to start, and back it up with dn aoe, and u can get a drop on triple cleanse.
If u dont want to use chaze or sith or empire.... rex, gk, and zylo ought to be on ur short list, imo.
B2 will be effective against Maul lead, QGJ/yoda/gk, and Rex/Chaze, with the right support.
You can say Chaze is more versatile, because you can run Chaze with, say, Jynn and Cassian... but that squad is pretty weak. You can also run Wiggs and R2 with Chaze, which is pretty good. This is the only real effective squad with Chaze that brings 2 nonmeta toons (wiggs) into play. R2 is meta, IMO, cuz he can run with jedi, too. And probably some other squads that don't use Chaze.
So if you try to run Chaze without at least 2 other meta toons, I think you will have a bad arena squad. With sole exception of Wiggs/R2/Chaze. Most all the other effective Chaze squads will need at least 2 other toons from the list of the usual suspects. And you could easily replace Chaze with same. Most people who have Chaze did not have time to also farm Zylo/GK. Or Zeta Yoda/QGJ. Or Sith. So they're stuck with Chaze, for now.
I never claimed that Boba doesn't have utility outside of countering them, he is probably one of the few of the "direct" counters that has, besides Nihilus. Although their countering is weakened by the fact that they are used (Nihilus more than Boba) with Chaze also.
If u got sith, u make dn the lead. U got no problem. If u got jedi, u got no problem. If u got vader and sa and zid, u got no problem. If u got rex, gk, dn, zylo, u got no problem.
No there is no shortcut. There is no one toon counter. Try to counter any of those meta squads with one toon. Chaze is two toons, and chaze cant beat any of thise squads without at keast two other meta toons, essentially. Chaze is just two toons in the greater pool of what u need.
The only counter to a meta squad is another meta squad. They are all OP as heck. And there is very little room for improvisation. Maybe u can tweak 1 or 2 toons. The other dudes are all off a very short list. So we choose... which terrible farm do i grind out to try to beat arena... and hope it still works when i finish...
Vs a rex team that will mean instant cleanse and TM up once you land sid AoE. Ofcourse the dots will stick but your opponents full team will be able to move after that.
I have no troubles beating chaze with Rex (l), DN, R2, GK and Zylo.
Make DN fast and you should have no problem.
Yeah B2 is a life saver agains Chaze, GK and Rex : I use a Maul team with B2 against them and It works really well (but R2 has added a bit of difficulty for my Maul team)
Againt Jedi he's even better
I also use B2, not because I like playing 4 against 5, because I have to.