Raid Han didn't shoot first???

Olga

I'm on node 11 of GW and I am going against a squad of CLS DN GK R2 and Han. Well I figured if I used my Sith squad with Shortrooper, I can use my zMaul lead to stealth my sith and force han to shoot shore... well guess what? Han didn't shoot first. He is standing there now with full TM and my zMaul gets to go first.

Olga

Well I guess maybe my maul had full TM from a previous node so it's RNG on who goes first with full TM but... it's shouldn't be RNG in that situation. Han should shoot first, that's what he does.

leef

zmaul lead grants +20% TM at the start of a battle. If maul had > 80% TM from a previous battle, the +20% will push him to 100% TM.
The mechanic in place to make han "shoot first" is giving him 100% TM at the start of a battle. When multiple characters are at 100% TM RNG decides who gets to go first. In your case RNG decided to let maul go first instead of han.
When playing resistance in GW this happens all the time, all 5 resistance members can have multiple turns without han ever getting his "first shot" off.
edit: i'm a slow typer, seems you already figured it out before i finished typing. lol

Huatimus

100% TM = Coin flip. Nothing new here...

Olga

Yeah, figures. Welp, back into the trash chute for you han.

leef

Olga wrote: »

Yeah, figures. Welp, back into the trash chute for you han.

well, no. There are only very few battles where an opponent starts with 100% TM.

Olga

The ability doesn't match the description. Should say Han starts the encounter with 100% TM, not that he gets a bonus turn at the start of the encounter.

Jetlife

You are correct on maybe they should change he description to where he gets 100% tm instead of what it is currently. But this mechanic has been the same since he was released may of 2016.
It really only effects GW where tm is carried from node to node

Ambassador

Moved to Bugs & Issues.

I think you've identified the reason : he starts the battle with 100% TM, but he's not alone, and so it's random.

Supercat

This bug has been known since February.
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/90958/han-solo-shoot-first-bug

My guess is it would be hard to fix.
(Although they made it work for wicket...)

scuba

Olga wrote: »

The ability doesn't match the description. Should say Han starts the encounter with 100% TM, not that he gets a bonus turn at the start of the encounter.

Unfortunately a controlled bonus turn is done by giving the character 100% tm. Seems to be many limitations in the way the game is coded. This is one of them

FierceRevan

Never mind

FierceRevan

D

Olga

There is an easy fix, which is to make sure other characters can only start an encounter with a maximum of 99% TM. This way Han will always shoot first.

Huatimus

Even if you were to reduce Zaul to 99%, he should still gain the 20% TM at start of combat and shoot that scruffy nerf herder Han first.
And your so called simple fix still doesn't change anything towards a Han vs Han scenario. Just leave it alone and let RNJesus decide your fate...

Olga

In your example, he wouldn't be starting with a maximum of 99% which was what I proposed. Why wouldn't you want to fix it? And the Han vs Han scenario isn't broken, Han still shoots first in that scenario.

Huatimus

Much simpler fix to just change the ability description on Han than to mess around with mechanics. But then you'll lose the flavour of the game. End of the day, I still say pray to RNJesus, just like pretty much everything else in this game.