Does Anything Matter in the Squad Arena?
I have been destroyed by teams that were way lower than mine in stars, levels, and mods.
What is going on in the arena?
What is going on in the arena?
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Get there firstest with the mostest and you'll win a lot of fights you shouldn't.
Squad synergy is how well a team works together. For example, alone most nightsisters would be useless in arena, but together they form one of the more powerful teams in the game.
The +30 speed arrow is referring to mods, which will unlock when you get to a certain level. Mods have a primary attribute and secondary arritbutes and different shapes based on which slot it can be put on, the arrow has 4 or 5 possible primary attributes, but speed is the best and most common choice for pretty much every character.
OP there are people on the forums that dont give the best advice and have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. This guy^^^^^is one of them.
If speed is the deciding factor in this game, then https://swgoh.gg/u/nicwester/ should shouldn't have an arena average of 176/ a highest rank of 129/ or a current rank of a whopping 193. That's what not having the right toons gets you!
OP take advice from people that actually get rank 1 on a daily basis. You do need some speed...but most importantly you need to use the right toons. Kenobi and Luke would be a start...something that @NicWester doesn't have.
Speed can only get you so far if you are using mediocre toons.
Better slower toons>Medecore fast toons.
Synergy is how well a team fits together. Let's give you an example.
Phoenix team is very common at lower levels.
Hera as leader means all phoenix team members shares their unique abilities. So if you face a team with all phoenix team members everyone has 4 unique abilities instead of one.
Also every team should have a cleanser a healer and a taunter.
That is to say they should have someone that can take buffs (positive effects) off the other team, they should be able to heal their own team and they should have a taunter (a tank, someone who can force the other team to attack him and no one else). He is the guy that keeps your team alive by making the opposition hit him first.
For Phoenix team Ezra's flourish cleans off positive special effects, Kanan and chopper can tank and Zeb and choppers unique abilities recover health and protection for the team. Also Hera's special heals someone and gives the ability to revive.
What team do you run and how does it synergises together. What makes it a team rather than 5 guys who happen to be on the same side of a fight.
Sometimes you can get lucky and your opponents will screw up with their faster hits.
Just today someone the ai was faster than me. STU taunted and the computer used 3 aoes on my phoenix team. My team was all half protection and full health and their tank was dead.
PLEASE don't listen to this guy.
Speed is everything in arena. Find good mods and you'll be successful for a long time.
If you don't want to drop from the top 10, then find good mods and good toons.
Good toons alone will only get you so far.
An odd point to make. Of course Meta characters like GK and CLS are better than mediocre toons with good speed mods.
But most of us, us F2Pers, only have mediocre toons and not the Meta.
So - speed mods are super, super important in the Arena.
Speed is everything in arena? ok Switch out your Jedi training Rey for a resistance team and see just how high you climb and stay overnight.
My original post DiD Say " You do need some speed"!! But speed isn't everything like you all are making out to be. Someone can have 1 speed lower or 20 speeds lower than their opponent and still win.
Having the right toons matter most..but when you do add speed your chances of winning go up.
Faster speed; landing debuffs and removing buffs; squad synergy; high damage; crit immunity; epic healing....
...all these things help you establish control.
Meta toons like CLS, RJT, GK, Thrawn, Nihilus and others not only bring a lot of damage, but the counter attacks, drain force, foresight and other tools in their kits help establish control over the other team, even though they lack synergy across the squad.
Kenobi/R2/zBaris/Nihilus/CLS/Thrawn are all f2p toons...so you can't use that as an excuse to not run the meta.
Not sure if anybody answered the second part of this. They are talking about mods, which are very important. What level are you? Mods unlock at level 50. Arrows are the only shape that can have a speed primary, and you want to get 5* speed primary arrows for *nearly* everybody. For other mods speed can only be a secondary stat.
Perhaps they're all technically f2p toons but that doesn't mean they're equally achievable for f2p.
Kenobi - Have to join a HAAT guild.
R2 - Have to build up five empire toons
Barris - Easiest to farm by far.
Nihilus - One 20 energy hard node.
CLS - Have to build up five 7* empire toons to get 7* R2 then have to farm Leia, FBLuke, Old Ben, and STH to 7* and then have to wait for the CLS event.
Thrawn - Have to build up five Phoenix toons.
JTR, BB8, and R2 are resistance. Sorry to burst your bubble. I've also seen well modded zFinn teams easily take first in arena.
And how Finn hold overnight? yeah that's what I thought.
Learn comprehension...I know Rey and bb8 is resistance when I said remove them and see how resistance does obviously I was talking about nicwesters team.
But let's try other factions with only speed mods Jedi? Scoundrels? Sith? Jawa? How many of those teams sit in the top 10 only because of speed?
You won't see those teams in the top 10 because they aren't good enough. I don't care if they have + 275 speed on each toon....they still aren't good enough. That right there is proof enough that speed isn't the end all be all of winning an arena fight.
The right toons are more important than speed.
When you have the right toons plus speed...that's when it becomes a deadly combination.
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they are what matter the most on arena, they will let you stay on top 10 for 24hs or fall like a rock or not even brake top 50
Congrats you've taken nicwesters name and attitude and amplified it 10 fold. Yes nic is generally a belligerent ****, however he also generally knows what he's talking about and he's 1000% right about speed. Who cares how far you fall over night if that team can carry you right back to number 1? You only have to be there for 1 second. Most teams drop regardless due to poor ai anyway.
In my Arena shard there is no team that can hold on defense. You can be first and you can easilly drop to 20-30. Your argument about holding on defense is a joke. It doesnt matter really. Every team can be beaten by almost 50 teams in top 50.
You're right..no team can hold defense overnight...but certain teams that consist of Kenobi/zBaris etc can hold enough to where you don't drop more than 10 ranks a night. I know this for a fact because I'm on a 2 year old shard and I never drop out of the top 20.
https://swgoh.gg/u/nicwester/
Check this guys account. The highest he has climbed was rank 127. He doesn't have CLS or Kenobi.
Now watch in a month once he has CLS at G11 or G12....I will bet you that he gets into the top 100 and probably get as far as Rank 70.
Why? Is it because of his speed? Nope, nope nope....it's gonna be because of Commander Luke Skywalker.
Better toons are more important than speed and allow you to climb higher. Add speed mods and you'll make it into the top 10.
I'll add this thread to my favorites and be back to say I told you all so!
Also you severely over-estimate how much I care about arena rank. I'll probably get to 99 and call it a day most of the time. Like, take today for instance. I'm at 208 with 11 minutes to go before payout and two attacks left. I could get another one in, but I'm playing Overwatch and typing this as I die over and over because Mercy is a magnet for every ult in the goldarned game... So I'll finish 208 instead of sub-200, but that's alright sicne I've got all the Arena characters unlocked and don't mind missing out on 15 crystals if it means opening another loot box and being disappointed when I don't get Orisa's puppy emote. *shrugs*
Having both would help more...but you will get into the top 100 because of Luke.
Luke is gonna get you more crystals and prove to these naysayers that "speed doesnt matter more than toons". Speed is important yes...but toons are more important and you getting into the top 100 after you get CLS will prove it.
I'm rooting for you Nick!! Really I am. I know we don't see eye to eye and we don't get along but I'm willing to let bygones be bygones. Gear that Luke up and go kick some butt!
This, except I'm working instead of playing a different game.
People way overrate arena, like it's the only thing that matters in this game. My guild just completed our first HAAT and that was way more satisfying than any rank I can get in arena.