Honest question - speed mods
March 3, 2018 8:56PM
edited March 2018
Serious, legit question here.
The absolute key to this entire game is Speed Mods isn't it?
I mean, to the point that it should be called SW: Galaxy of Speed Mods. Amirite?
I've been playing since release practically, with an odd break here and there. And yet, even more so lately, I can't crack above 300 in Arena, and maybe 250 in Fleet Arena.
No matter the team, the synergy, or the strategy I put in, it's always:
Enter match
Other team gets 4-6 turns to my 1
Lose 2-3 characters/ships
Take a turn, do some damage
Other team finishes me off with 4-6 turns
It really feels to me that there is no meta, no strat, no comp that will work. It's just throw 5 random hard hitters together, but as long as they're decked out in max speed, it will win, synergy be damned.
Am I completely off base?
The absolute key to this entire game is Speed Mods isn't it?
I mean, to the point that it should be called SW: Galaxy of Speed Mods. Amirite?
I've been playing since release practically, with an odd break here and there. And yet, even more so lately, I can't crack above 300 in Arena, and maybe 250 in Fleet Arena.
No matter the team, the synergy, or the strategy I put in, it's always:
Enter match
Other team gets 4-6 turns to my 1
Lose 2-3 characters/ships
Take a turn, do some damage
Other team finishes me off with 4-6 turns
It really feels to me that there is no meta, no strat, no comp that will work. It's just throw 5 random hard hitters together, but as long as they're decked out in max speed, it will win, synergy be damned.
Am I completely off base?
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Challenge accepted.
Awesome.
You can’t mod for Speed in Fleet Arena.
At least not yet.
And hopefully that day never comes. It’s bad enough to have to gamble for speed mods in 1 Arena.
So you’re only half right...for now.
What do you think hardware will be?
Welcome to speed mods for fleet... and it'll still be just as buggy.
That’s why sometimes I’m glad that their definition of soon and my definition of soon differs.
It's true your can't mod for speed in ships but if you have faster pilots than your opponent then you essentially did mod for speed in fleet. I fought many of Ship battles where opponent was 1 to 2 star lower ships than mine but his pilots were geared and modded faster than mine and got several attacks on me before my turns.
It's like you two know what to say to make my inner contrarian sing.
Must... retain... willpower.
Pilot speed does not affect his ship’s speed. Higher gear or higher leveled/tier mods can make the ships go faster.
Once you have a speed arrow and 10+ secondary speed on all your mods it doesn't matter any more. Its more about group makeup after that. But yes there is a bare minimum necessary to be decent.
I keep top 10 on both fleet and squad arena and im 99% F2p. That one % is coz i bought sion 13$ pack but he aint even in my arena team yet. I have quite a few whales in both arenas but better team comps beat money thrown at the game.
Slap some arena mods on them, give insane speed, and they have no problem whereas with moderate to average mods they die by the second wave.
Arena is no different. If you do not have meta characters and speed, you lose. If you have meta characters and no speed, you will beat the lower ranking players, but lose miserably to the higher end players. Meta Vs Non-Meta decides the low rank, then speed separates the Meta Teams.
So there is minimum few teams that can compete in top50. NS, Titans, Palp teams, Empire Thrawn lead, JTR teams. So those 5 types of teams You want to compare by speed? And based on this will You decide which one is better? Good luck.....
Step 2. Get better speed mods than your opponents.
Every new meta hero that is released puts ftp back to step 1.
Others will never achieve step 2.
Thrawn lead
Yuarite!
Look at the the available toons right now. The two fastest teams would be droids with BB8 (starts with 40%tm) and Sith under zMaul (start with 20%TM), preferably with Sith Assassin to speed them up even more. But those two teams aren't anywhere near the Meta.
Rex is a solid counter to speed. The enemy team attacks you, you gain TM, and get to attack back.
Veteran smugglers are a counter to speed. You take a lot of turns, and their damage stacks up. They will only take one action... And one shot one of your toons with that.
DT and Krennic together are a counter to speed, especially in mirror matches when both sides have EP leader. The enemy goes first, and DT retaliates with his granade for an AOE cooldown increase.
And yes, speed is important. But it's not the only thing.
You're gonna do worse if you lack speed on your mods, however just having alot of speed doesn't guarantee success.
Speed has always been a important stat in this game. People like to believe it's the mods that made speed more important than the other stats, but that was already the case long before there were mods in this game.
The best thing about mods is that they're meta proof. Well, untill they release 6/7 pip mods.
This.
Speed mods are very, very important. You can have the hardest hitters in the game but if the other guy/gal goes first - repeatedly - and you never get a chance to let loose then you're dead. Bye bye.
However...if you have a very poor team and the other has a very good team, speed mods won't save you.
As with everything in this delightful, complex and intricate game - you should work on your speed mods, but you should work on many other things too.
The current EP lead Meta can have way less speed than the CLS and JTR Metas did and still crush them.
You have to carefully craft your team to have an answer to everything the enemy team throws at you
For me the best answer is Rex Lead (I use him for all my fights except the latest : I'm less targeted when leaving a Palp team for defense), but Thrawn Lead may be good too (I didn't test him agains Palp Lead)
Palp teams are a joke if use Thrawn lead and full Empire team.