New gear 12 all gives +6 speed
I just thought this was interesting, but so far every single piece of additional gear 12 gear that you can only get in hStr gives an additional 6 speed, so those that get it will have a +12 speed advantage over everyone else, I still think it is fine, but didn’t realize just how big a difference this gear would make.
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The new G12 should be released in a fashion that should not be exclusive to the Heroic tier. It creates quite a big power gap between players in my opinion.
You couldn't be more wrong, p2p expedites the progress, it doesn't earn you winning
P2P guilds will be able to do the HSR no problem, there are several people I know that even told me they can post 0 in the HSR and still get rewards.
As per the P2P players in a majority of F2P guilds, their progress is still good, but they will not be able to compete with the members of P2P guilds because of the fact the gear is locked behind HSR. It’ll give motivation for them to leave their guild for better ones.
At the end of the day, the choice of leaving their F2P guild is their own, but perhaps some don’t want to leave since they built up chemistry, and now their forced with a choice of: progress or friendship.
Now what I will admit is: this who statement is based on a theory so it may not actually be happening, and I agree. But I do think it will happen to the occasional few players.
Definitely hope so. Didn’t see this livestream, but thankfully I’m not the only one that thinks this is slightly unfair.
I typically only watch Arnolds stuff for looks at new content or some team builds. But I turned it on specifically to see if they would say anything about the new gear having a speed boost. These people have a direct like to the developers and even they are being ignored.
I don't have a problem with hSTR having gear you can only get in that raid, what I have an issue with is the gear having a HUGE impact on arena shards (possibly ship shards but I don't know what speed in gear slots does to ship speed). A team of gear 11 with higher speed can easily beat a team with gear 12 with slots 1-3 filled in arena. What the speed on the gear does is it gives 12+ speed to all characters putting people in shards who are not in hSTR guilds at a huge disadvantage.
Not when it drops fully crafted.
It will NOT drop fully crafted. You can get at most a "crafted" component if you finish in top 3, from my understandings. One single piece of this gear demands many components, it will take weeks or even months to craft one.
A nice middle finger to the mass majority of players.
Speed already being a a massive issue they cannot fix, they go and give even more... not only do they give more but they give it to those who are almost certain to have the most broken character they have ever released in DT.
Awful. Total neglegence.
This is completely incorrect. Here's a guild mates drop from the HSith we finished earlier today:
If he had the same drop a few days from now (so 2 raids total) he would have all the g12+ needed to craft a full piece.
The more alarming thing? That's not even needing that full drop - those 2 salvage drops of 25 and 20 are half a full g12+. Honestly, including the full drops, it wouldn't be that difficult to average a full piece per raid.
CG's idea of "balance".
Good game. Goodnight.
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I'm F2P, so is the vast majority of my guild. We have been playing a long time (years) and just completed our first HSTR.
You can either pay your way or work your way, but in no way should top gear be given to noobs or semi-noobs. Guilds are tripping all over themselves to recruit people who can help in heroic, including mine. If you have the GP to make a difference in HSTR, you can find a place to do that. If you don't, then you don't really deserve that gear anyway.
And if you don't, unless you took a year off, no one in your arena shard will likely have it either.
Work hard or spend hard. People who haven't invested the time or the money to help earn that gear don't deserve it. End of story
The lower tiers, even tier 6, are a complete joke in terms of rewards, people are rightfully complaining
I did not say anything about any rewards beyond the new G12+ gear. For the record, yes, the lower tier gear is awful.
The appropriate solution is to give more of the gear already in lower tiers, not to give better gear that's only available in heroic.
It has always been like this, otherwise, why would you pay ? Of course it widens the gap between fully P2P guilds and others, but there are F2P guilds that can do HSR. The components will most likely be released in 3-6 months, probably in 6 normal fleet nodes.
Not just top 3. Also #11+ get total garbage. If not for Traya this raid has nothing for guys past top 10 after the "update".
Rest of us gets handful of old g12 salvage and in case no one noticed - g12 gear is required to craft new one.
And please spare us comments of "get good noobs" until you can solo the whole thing.
Point is the patch was made to drive the competition in top 20 of guilds having HSTR on farm and completely lock out the rest. In case someone is new or forgot - game is paid and rng based. Only way you can reliably get edge over some is by spending thousands. There is no other way around no matter how good or hardcore you are.
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A lot more than the top 20 guilds have hSith on farm....this gear may be exclusive, but it’s not going to be just the top 1,000 or so players. More like the top 10,000 or so.
You haven't read anything on the forums have you? No one in tiers 1-6 are demanding the new gear 12+ be available for them in the tiers they are in (though I do think it should be added to the GE Store imo). What we are asking for, what we have been asking for for months is for these raids to give us rewards that actually help us gear teams to move up to the next tier. These devs are so oblivious. Tier 4 says you should have gear 10 toons, but if you tried to use a team at gear 10 its going to get rolled. Then as a reward for completing tier 4 you get scraps of gear to help you get a character up to gear lvl 9. None of it makes sense. If gear 10 is required for tier 4 (wishful thinking but I digress) then the rewards you get in tier 4 should help you gear your characters up to tier 11 so you can move up to tier 5. Tier 5 should help you gear up to gear 12 for the tier 6 raid. The tier 6 raid should drop more gear to help get you to gear 12 and also gear to help fill in your 1-3 slots once you reach gear 12.
Right now even in tier 6 you are lucky to get stun guns/cuffs. Its backwards, the devs know it and they have known it since the raid came out, yet they are still sitting there claiming they need more time to evaluate. All the while those in hSTR keep getting farther ahead while the rest of us are stuck in a situation where we can't advance unless we shell over thousands of dollars.
I am in a largely FTP guild that has Heroic on farm... I do not fear us losing our Handful of PTP players. Because its not in their best interest. Currently they can easily take one of the top 10 spots, and get the G13 gear (sorry do not know what call it), if they left and joined a guild full of 49 other PTP players they would get less G13 gear, or in the least have to work harder for it.
What G13 gear will do in PTP guilds is cause players to compete with each other, and spend even more(the whole point I guess). I think some whales in 180mil GP guilds will leave and join 130mil GP guilds in order have an easier time getting top gear.
I do find it ironic that a few months ago they tried to change raid payouts to a flat reward system. And now have opted to amplify the imbalance between top a lower ranks.
I reserve judgement on the changes... keeping gear 13 to the top 10 (perhaps 20 would be better) might be a good thing as in encourages participation.
Or call it "enjoy your crappy rewards, lower tier guilds" gear.