Jedi Nerf on the horizon! LOL

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    JacenRoe wrote: »
    JacenRoe wrote: »
    I am suspicious. My Anakin is g12+1 with 216% CD and 2932 Damage. Against a much, much worse team in GW, he can only eek out 18k hits, nothing near these 70k numbers from the video. If he were taking a bonus turn due to Righteous Fury, we would expect these numbers to double to 36k, still only half of what is in the video.
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    His base damage on his AoE is in the neighborhood of 7,500.

    +8.5% offense on a 6* plus mod, and another +8.5% on the square mod. +50% offense from the offense up buff. +100% if his unique procs. That alone pushes the damage to just over 20,000 on a non-crit.

    A crit damage set adds +30% crit damage. A crit damage triangle at 6* gives +42%. The crit damage up buff adds +50%. So the same attacks would then crit for over 54,000.

    Add to that any offense secondary stats and Revan lead which gives even more bonus offense and crit damage to Jedi, and Anakin could absolutely hit those numbers.

    I don't have 6• mods, but I do have 5• offense primaries on square and cross for ~12% total boost there, and 5• CD primary on triangle plus CD set.
    Won't say it isn't possible, but it's hard to see how an extra 5% O boost for 6• primaries, plus 6% CD boost, with a CD up buff is going to hit 70k, even with the 100% boost from Righteous Fury.

    My Anakin is at g12. No g12 pieces. Only 5* mods. Potency on the plus. He was easily hitting 35,000-50,000 with no crit damage buff. Not optimal mods. No Revan lead. No offense secondary stats. No crit damage up buff. Not sure what the problem is without seeing your mods. The numbers are definitely legit.

    Show me the money!
    Sorry, but I don't believe it.
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    More data: Revan lead with Grand Master's Training buff. Basic hit for 35k on Thrawn, so that was nice: IxUGR1A.png
    Ahsoka special for 54k on Palps: NlLMOBE.png
    Anakin AOE for 22k+: HO5bfWL.png

    Guess I am just bad at this game. Woe.
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    JacenRoe wrote: »
    JacenRoe wrote: »
    I am suspicious. My Anakin is g12+1 with 216% CD and 2932 Damage. Against a much, much worse team in GW, he can only eek out 18k hits, nothing near these 70k numbers from the video. If he were taking a bonus turn due to Righteous Fury, we would expect these numbers to double to 36k, still only half of what is in the video.
    EPLbESo.png

    His base damage on his AoE is in the neighborhood of 7,500.

    +8.5% offense on a 6* plus mod, and another +8.5% on the square mod. +50% offense from the offense up buff. +100% if his unique procs. That alone pushes the damage to just over 20,000 on a non-crit.

    A crit damage set adds +30% crit damage. A crit damage triangle at 6* gives +42%. The crit damage up buff adds +50%. So the same attacks would then crit for over 54,000.

    Add to that any offense secondary stats and Revan lead which gives even more bonus offense and crit damage to Jedi, and Anakin could absolutely hit those numbers.

    I don't have 6• mods, but I do have 5• offense primaries on square and cross for ~12% total boost there, and 5• CD primary on triangle plus CD set.
    Won't say it isn't possible, but it's hard to see how an extra 5% O boost for 6• primaries, plus 6% CD boost, with a CD up buff is going to hit 70k, even with the 100% boost from Righteous Fury.

    My Anakin is at g12. No g12 pieces. Only 5* mods. Potency on the plus. He was easily hitting 35,000-50,000 with no crit damage buff. Not optimal mods. No Revan lead. No offense secondary stats. No crit damage up buff. Not sure what the problem is without seeing your mods. The numbers are definitely legit.

    https://swgoh.gg/p/929739623/characters/jedi-knight-anakin
    I put a 5• CD triangle on him, an O cross with a little speed, and a circle with a +108 O secondary and a tick more speed. 4 CD + 2 CC sets.
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    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    JacenRoe wrote: »
    I am suspicious. My Anakin is g12+1 with 216% CD and 2932 Damage. Against a much, much worse team in GW, he can only eek out 18k hits, nothing near these 70k numbers from the video. If he were taking a bonus turn due to Righteous Fury, we would expect these numbers to double to 36k, still only half of what is in the video.
    EPLbESo.png

    His base damage on his AoE is in the neighborhood of 7,500.

    +8.5% offense on a 6* plus mod, and another +8.5% on the square mod. +50% offense from the offense up buff. +100% if his unique procs. That alone pushes the damage to just over 20,000 on a non-crit.

    A crit damage set adds +30% crit damage. A crit damage triangle at 6* gives +42%. The crit damage up buff adds +50%. So the same attacks would then crit for over 54,000.

    Add to that any offense secondary stats and Revan lead which gives even more bonus offense and crit damage to Jedi, and Anakin could absolutely hit those numbers.

    Remember how GG was sold?

    There are way too many similarities here:
    1. Footage showed insane numbers
    2. Footage showed easily defeating top meta
    3. ahnald was the one promoting it...

    Im very skeptic.

    But the GG videos were preview videos supplied by CG. The videos Ahnald is using regarding the reworks are actual arena battles from his account.

    Sarcasm? (legit question)
    I can't reliably identify now a days on this forum.
    >:)So what? I want Krell!
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    More data: Revan lead with Grand Master's Training buff. Basic hit for 35k on Thrawn, so that was nice: IxUGR1A.png
    Ahsoka special for 54k on Palps: NlLMOBE.png
    Anakin AOE for 22k+: HO5bfWL.png

    Guess I am just bad at this game. Woe.

    What a kitten damage and a nice ahsoka flying pic. :)
    >:)So what? I want Krell!
  • Stick
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    Does anyone think that these videos are really doing the players a disservice ? If I was the developer and some player made a video instantly showing this , I’d be annoyed and tempted to fix it.
  • VonZant
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    Stick wrote: »
    Does anyone think that these videos are really doing the players a disservice ? If I was the developer and some player made a video instantly showing this , I’d be annoyed and tempted to fix it.

    Fix what?
  • JacenRoe
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    More data: Revan lead with Grand Master's Training buff. Basic hit for 35k on Thrawn, so that was nice: IxUGR1A.png
    Ahsoka special for 54k on Palps: NlLMOBE.png
    Anakin AOE for 22k+: HO5bfWL.png

    Guess I am just bad at this game. Woe.

    That 25k crit you showed was without the double damage from his unique. It would have been 50k if an ally had been killed.

    Add to that 50% more crit damage from that buff, and you not having optimal mods, and the fact that Darth Revan teams have ZERO damage mitigation from defense, and that would definitely get you there.

    He's getting lots of increases to offense and crit damage which compound with each other when you do the maths.
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    JacenRoe wrote: »
    More data: Revan lead with Grand Master's Training buff. Basic hit for 35k on Thrawn, so that was nice: IxUGR1A.png
    Ahsoka special for 54k on Palps: NlLMOBE.png
    Anakin AOE for 22k+: HO5bfWL.png

    Guess I am just bad at this game. Woe.

    That 25k crit you showed was without the double damage from his unique. It would have been 50k if an ally had been killed.

    Add to that 50% more crit damage from that buff, and you not having optimal mods, and the fact that Darth Revan teams have ZERO damage mitigation from defense, and that would definitely get you there.

    He's getting lots of increases to offense and crit damage which compound with each other when you do the maths.

    Yep will get him there, except it is against g9-10 characters.
    >:)So what? I want Krell!
  • Drim
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    edited April 2019
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    This has to be the most ridiculous turn of the Events in this game history . Show us DR then show us who works with him then release new toon to go with him then fix a counter team and release a new counter team on the same day
  • StickyWARD
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    edited April 2019
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    Here is some more Data. This was in arena against JKR. And before the remod
  • Nikoms565
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    If this holds up and JKA is a viable counter (who is not nerfed) I will retract the negative comments regarding the "Road Ahead" post from last week.
    In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie

    In game guild: TNR Uprising
    I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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  • Kokie
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    Well I just went against a team that had a g12 6*mod JKA in the lineup and as usual the fight was over in under a minute with zero casualties on my DR team so I'm not buying it
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    Kokie wrote: »
    Well I just went against a team that had a g12 6*mod JKA in the lineup and as usual the fight was over in under a minute with zero casualties on my DR team so I'm not buying it

    It's because you were in control. If it was ai might be different. You aren't very smart thinking that a player controlled match is same as AI controlled match
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    EA or CG whatever ya wanna call them are very uneducated people. They make it way too easy to get refunds in this game. If anyone working for EA or CG have any ounce of intelligence they wouldn't nerf anything that shouldn't be nerfed. I've gotten alot of $$$ refunded back to me because of the nerfs and if they keep it up just means more $$$$ back in my pocket. Part of me wants them to nerf anakin so I get more $$$ back
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    This is awesome!!! Finally some ftp justice! THANK YOU CG!!!
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    Doubtful. It seems like something CG would do.

    Have the most challenging and requirement heavy event ever to get Malak, and then give a free update that completely crushes him.

    Thanks fo yo cash suckas

    They don't even beat him all of the time on attack. And always lose on defense. So Malak should completely dominate with no opposition. You guys crack me up sometimes.
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    IE4TAPPL3S wrote: »
    Doubtful. It seems like something CG would do.

    Have the most challenging and requirement heavy event ever to get Malak, and then give a free update that completely crushes him.

    Thanks fo yo cash suckas

    They don't even beat him all of the time on attack. And always lose on defense. So Malak should completely dominate with no opposition. You guys crack me up sometimes.

    Exactly. It's called DIVERSITY you single minded goons!
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    ok so I remodded my JKA and put a 6• CD triangle on him. 222% CD, 64.6% CC, 2939 damage, 238 speed. Yeah I know, but that's all I can do. Ran it in arena vs JKR squad. Timed out. :/
  • VonZant
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    ok so I remodded my JKA and put a 6• CD triangle on him. 222% CD, 64.6% CC, 2939 damage, 238 speed. Yeah I know, but that's all I can do. Ran it in arena vs JKR squad. Timed out. :/

    There are 3 Anakins in my top 15 right now...
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    VonZant wrote: »
    ok so I remodded my JKA and put a 6• CD triangle on him. 222% CD, 64.6% CC, 2939 damage, 238 speed. Yeah I know, but that's all I can do. Ran it in arena vs JKR squad. Timed out. :/

    There are 3 Anakins in my top 15 right now...

    I guess I am just double plus ungood.
  • VonZant
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    edited April 2019
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    VonZant wrote: »
    ok so I remodded my JKA and put a 6• CD triangle on him. 222% CD, 64.6% CC, 2939 damage, 238 speed. Yeah I know, but that's all I can do. Ran it in arena vs JKR squad. Timed out. :/

    There are 3 Anakins in my top 15 right now...

    I guess I am just double plus ungood.

    Well it sounds like he needs a perfect storm of those buffs for the massive numbers. Maybe you just havent hit it yet. ;)
  • Kokie
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    Meanwhile DR and malak are chilling out having a cold one not even breaking a sweat.....
  • Nikoms565
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    Kokie wrote: »
    Meanwhile DR and malak are chilling out having a cold one not even breaking a sweat.....

    Keep telling yourself that. :D

    Nothing holds on defense - not even DR+Malak. It's the way the game has run for 3+ years - it didn't suddenly change this time.
    In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie

    In game guild: TNR Uprising
    I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
    *This space left intentionally blank*
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    VonZant wrote: »
    ok so I remodded my JKA and put a 6• CD triangle on him. 222% CD, 64.6% CC, 2939 damage, 238 speed. Yeah I know, but that's all I can do. Ran it in arena vs JKR squad. Timed out. :/

    There are 3 Anakins in my top 15 right now...

    I guess I am just double plus ungood.

    Don't worry to much about speed. He is gonna take extra turns. You want his damage as high as possible. Here is how I have him moddedw52l1yumoazz.png
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  • Ultra
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    I think if they force the AI to target JKA then this team breaks apart. Not entirely sure if it will or won't but that's one way to go about it other than nerfing or buffing toons

    The obvious problem is that, like HK lead, JKR breaks Jedi Toons and severely limits how good they can be going forward. Its no surprise, everyone called out how OP and a new level of powercreep JKR's leadership kit was
  • mlb1399
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    I am suspicious. My Anakin is g12+1 with 216% CD and 2932 Damage. Against a much, much worse team in GW, he can only eek out 18k hits, nothing near these 70k numbers from the video. If he were taking a bonus turn due to Righteous Fury, we would expect these numbers to double to 36k, still only half of what is in the video.
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    That’s very low damage. He has multiple offensive multipliers. Mine is 4356 offense with 65% cc and 222% cd
  • Javin37
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    So the people screaming about EP and "they lied" are going to retract their statements now?
  • VonZant
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    Ultra wrote: »
    I think if they force the AI to target JKA then this team breaks apart. Not entirely sure if it will or won't but that's one way to go about it other than nerfing or buffing toons

    The obvious problem is that, like HK lead, JKR breaks Jedi Toons and severely limits how good they can be going forward. Its no surprise, everyone called out how OP and a new level of powercreep JKR's leadership kit was

    This is also what I am worried about going forward.
  • Ninjah9
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    mlb1399 wrote: »
    I am suspicious. My Anakin is g12+1 with 216% CD and 2932 Damage. Against a much, much worse team in GW, he can only eek out 18k hits, nothing near these 70k numbers from the video. If he were taking a bonus turn due to Righteous Fury, we would expect these numbers to double to 36k, still only half of what is in the video.
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    That’s very low damage. He has multiple offensive multipliers. Mine is 4356 offense with 65% cc and 222% cd

    A few things you're probably missing

    1.the major damage is from his bonus turn where he gets +100% dmg

    2. DR have stacking negative defense
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