3v3 DR badstilla, malak

Boba_The_Fetter

Pretty simple how do I beat this without Darth revan or malak?

My opponent took 2/3/4 attempts on most of my GA defence and I managed to one shot all his.
All that's left is his Darth revan, malak team. Videos on YouTube show it seems to be unbeatable without Darth revan. Gee guess the 'better player' won this time.

Sewpot

You don’t. The team is unbeatable without a mirror match and if you are slower forget it. Best you could do is send in a team of 2 to eat up fear and ferocity and let the timer run out. Then go in with your weaker Drevan team. Outside of that you are sunk

USAFmedic129

You obviously did not pay enough to win.

Boba_The_Fetter

USAFmedic129 wrote: »

You obviously did not pay enough to win.

Indeed I did not, I really suck at this game

kieltrx

How about burning his specials with a low team, and then bring the big guns?

Mr_Sausage

kieltrx wrote: »

How about burning his specials with a low team, and then bring the big guns?

You just feed the team turn meter that way. Then the enemy all goes first before your big guns.

kieltrx

Ye, but goes with basics.. seems like the only option for those without dsrevan.. unless you want to lose without even trying..

kieltrx

I saw a vid with jkr, jka and yoda beating dsr, bsf and malak but that was before anakin nerf and I don't know if the current ga still has pre-nerf unique on him or nerfed..

Jarvind

It's not ideal, but you could try to burn down DR with CLS/Han/Chewie or something similar, then Malak wouldn't be stun-immune on subsequent attempts and you could stunlock him to death.

Edit: And I just realized that probably won't work because of the Villain zeta. Nevermind, you're boned.

kieltrx

You gotta have cls faster than dsrevan and emo bastila to even think about pulling this off..

Boba_The_Fetter

Jarvind wrote: »

It's not ideal, but you could try to burn down DR with CLS/Han/Chewie or something similar, then Malak wouldn't be stun-immune on subsequent attempts and you could stunlock him to death.

Edit: And I just realized that probably won't work because of the Villain zeta. Nevermind, you're boned.

From the videos I've seen cls trio just gets destroyed Agaisnt this

Vos_Landeck

Boba_The_Fetter wrote: »

Gee guess the 'better player' won this time.

If the best trio in the game can be cheesed by lesser teams, then the game doesn't have much point.

kieltrx

Vos_Landeck wrote: »

Boba_The_Fetter wrote: »

Gee guess the 'better player' won this time.

If the best trio in the game can be cheesed by lesser teams, then the game doesn't have much point.

That's called tactics, you sacrifice a dozen of ga points to beat a team without counter and possibly clear the area for a win..

Cal_naughton_jnr

High gear level probe Droid to knock malak

Kailen

Vos_Landeck wrote: »

Boba_The_Fetter wrote: »

Gee guess the 'better player' won this time.

If the best trio in the game can be cheesed by lesser teams, then the game doesn't have much point.

There shouldn't be a "best trio". There should always be R-P-S style multiple teams with strengths and weaknesses against each other. Having one specific "unbeatable team" is just poor design, especially in a game with so many characters and team combinations.

Jarvind

Kailen wrote: »

Vos_Landeck wrote: »

Boba_The_Fetter wrote: »

Gee guess the 'better player' won this time.

If the best trio in the game can be cheesed by lesser teams, then the game doesn't have much point.

There shouldn't be a "best trio". There should always be R-P-S style multiple teams with strengths and weaknesses against each other. Having one specific "unbeatable team" is just poor design, especially in a game with so many characters and team combinations.

Has this ever been the case? Except for a very brief period where CLS, Traya and Jedi Revan were all somewhat in balance (and even then, Revan had the clear advantage) I don't remember arena ever reaching this hallowed "Rock Paper Scissors" state that people love to talk about.

There was some variety way back in the pre-mod, pre-zeta days, but that was mostly because synergy barely existed and matches were largely decided by RNG. I ran Phasma lead with Stick Rey, Princess Leia, Qui-Gon and Royal Guard (lol), and my whole strategy was "hope Rey crits and Leia triple taps." It worked pretty well, actually.

sir_Phantom_Jedi

GA is now boring now that I have no counters to Malak; I just skipped playing it.

kieltrx

Well I just had a ga fight against dr, bsf and malak and won with the strategy mentioned above. It took me 3 **** teams to burn specials, set tm on enemy, and finally check on airplane mode if the first round would go smoothly and then I took down this team with some heavy guns. Sure I got only 20 banners but i can move on to the next territory and I have no intention on going down without a fight.

Legend91

FailingCrab

The only reliable way I've identified is using my own Darth Revan (DR, Bastila and HK does well against DR/Bastila/Malak if you have a speed advantage). I tried brainstorming other counters but couldn't think of anything reliable.

Boba_The_Fetter

kieltrx wrote: »

Well I just had a ga fight against dr, bsf and malak and won with the strategy mentioned above. It took me 3 **** teams to burn specials, set tm on enemy, and finally check on airplane mode if the first round would go smoothly and then I took down this team with some heavy guns. Sure I got only 20 banners but i can move on to the next territory and I have no intention on going down without a fight.

Nice one! Seriously kudos, care to give more details on your teams used?

Kokie

Once you feed tm to that trio its over.....period....unless the trio is g7 with no Zetas lol.....I have not had a single DR team go down in GA yet and that is going up against opponents who have every theoretical counter possible

RandomSithLord

Legend91 wrote: »

This is also 3v3 so I wouldn't call that screenshot proof of anything. Sure, it took more than one attempt, but DR is certainly not unbeatable.

Kokie

Yeah with a 5* malak lol

RandomSithLord

Mine was 5* too, yet the opponent got stuck on it. In the burn down with multiple teams approach it seems irrelevant whether Malak is 5 or 7*. It matters when you want to 1 shot the team.

There are not too many 7* Malaks running around anyway, so if the unbeatable DR-Malak teams that people keep complaining about require a 7* Malak, those complaints have even less relevance.

Rhod101

FWIW, in a previous GA, I had terrible RNG and lost in a mirror match to that team, but did take out DR and Badstila. They're bearable, but Malak is nasty, even alone. So I IPD'd him.

I'd throw whatever you have at DR and Badstila and save an Empire team inc IPD for Malak. And pray.

kieltrx

Just use any team to survive:
- dr fear
- bast fear
- malak special
- dr storm (with basic along)
and get killed on bast lightning.
Then they have all specials used and you can send in a better team. I used thrawn lead with chewie and han. Kill bast, fracture malak, kill revan, kill malak.

kieltrx

Aaand I won the phase never give up!

Fahrius

I'd bet that bh could do something... Jango or aurra seems to be good options
Aurra with boba and nest, nest can take the hits, while boba and aurra stay stealthed, boba could execute someone with some ferocities stacked... Aurra would lose her 1st turn but on the next could hit quite hard someone else...
With jango maybe boba and bossk, bossk going first to get taunt, then boba to execute bastila (surely wont kill her as she would just have foresight) then bossk could do multiassist and finish her off with jango... 🤔

W4gdebvre

Kailen

Jarvind wrote: »

Kailen wrote: »

Vos_Landeck wrote: »

Boba_The_Fetter wrote: »

Gee guess the 'better player' won this time.

If the best trio in the game can be cheesed by lesser teams, then the game doesn't have much point.

There shouldn't be a "best trio". There should always be R-P-S style multiple teams with strengths and weaknesses against each other. Having one specific "unbeatable team" is just poor design, especially in a game with so many characters and team combinations.

Has this ever been the case? Except for a very brief period where CLS, Traya and Jedi Revan were all somewhat in balance (and even then, Revan had the clear advantage) I don't remember arena ever reaching this hallowed "Rock Paper Scissors" state that people love to talk about.

There was some variety way back in the pre-mod, pre-zeta days, but that was mostly because synergy barely existed and matches were largely decided by RNG. I ran Phasma lead with Stick Rey, Princess Leia, Qui-Gon and Royal Guard (lol), and my whole strategy was "hope Rey crits and Leia triple taps." It worked pretty well, actually.

Just because EA/CG are incompetent at reaching a goal doesn't mean it shouldn't be a goal.