GAS Achievement Reward - GET 1 Currency

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  • Lio
    707 posts Member
    Lio wrote: »
    I've seen many threads complaining about 5* GAS. I still cannot understand why people are angry that a 5* toon isn't meta-defining. No toon is. Even Malak at 5* is very beatable.

    Malak was different.

    1.) malak was released in a time without g13
    2.) Malak was released in a time without relics
    3.) malak completed the DR Team

    A 5 star g11 Toon is useless and is extremely frustrating to know that this will be for the next 4 months

    See my most recent comment above
  • I concur. I don't get complaining about his ineffectiveness at 5*.

    I fully support complaining about him being 5* to begin with though.

    Less than 7K of him in the game. I wonder what the number of those are like mine, where they are stuck at G7 and 5*. I wonder if I will be able to get him to G13 before he comes back around.

    Quite frankly, people who unlocked him the first time deserve to have an advantage because of it. But most of them don't, because he is TRASH at 5*. So why bother getting any new toon the first time around? What is the incentive to spend any money on a new toon going forward?
  • Lio
    707 posts Member
    evoluza wrote: »
    Lio wrote: »
    I've seen many threads complaining about 5* GAS. I still cannot understand why people are angry that a 5* toon isn't meta-defining. No toon is. Even Malak at 5* is very beatable.

    That's based on a lot of chars that take there use from abilies and not from stats alone. Anakin is mainly based on stats.
    And the most reasonable complaint isn't about that.... It's about forcing people without a lot get1 into hoth, because of double the amount of get1 and CG not spending a second thinking about that problem.

    That's fair. I can sympathize with that reasoning (everything but Hoth getting you double the GET1)
  • TVF
    17258 posts Member
    evoluza wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    evoluza wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    evoluza wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Mutou_LuYa wrote: »
    I paid near mobile gamer amount to unlock GAS(so called meta) to 5 star and the toon is useless including bottleneck due to never save my GET. This is y I quit and gave the account to guildmate cuz I do not see y I should even bother playing/paying for something I cannot use. Its a 4 year old game and there is alot of better stuff out there. Learn to move on and open to other options. As a customer, I do not think it's ur job to teach the business/worker what needs to be done repetitively.

    Of course you can use him and he's not useless. "Useless" and "useless for what I wanted to use him for" are not the same.

    He does counter and take hits till health.
    This is indeed useless as a 5*.

    It's amazing how many people here don't play GA or TW, but ok.

    You trying to tell he was usefull in GA for you?
    He is based on pure stats. At 5* he is trash and gets beaten like a shaak ti clone squad. So he is basically a redundant character till he is 7* and cg made there new content les valuable by get1 income.
    It's a poor decision made by them

    There hasn't been a TW or GA he could be used in yet. So I'd love to know how you know he's trash.

    6000+ people unlocked him. Everyone in that lige has no use for a 5* skywalker.
    That makes him useless.

    I have no clue what this is supposed to mean but it's clear I need to stop trying at this point.
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  • evoluza
    2289 posts Member
    Lio wrote: »
    evoluza wrote: »
    Lio wrote: »
    I've seen many threads complaining about 5* GAS. I still cannot understand why people are angry that a 5* toon isn't meta-defining. No toon is. Even Malak at 5* is very beatable.

    That's based on a lot of chars that take there use from abilies and not from stats alone. Anakin is mainly based on stats.
    And the most reasonable complaint isn't about that.... It's about forcing people without a lot get1 into hoth, because of double the amount of get1 and CG not spending a second thinking about that problem.

    That's fair. I can sympathize with that reasoning (everything but Hoth getting you double the GET1)

    The ds hoth thing gives you 12k + with missions. The lower one gives like 6k too and is useless anyways.
    That's simply not progression based, when they force there most focused players into second hand content like ds hoth tb.
  • Here's a good solution for paying customer. U cut the GET cost for people that unlock during first round, then u change the cost for shards higher for return event. Since 5* is not useless right so I'm sure higher get cost for return event would be ideal.
  • I was 2 units away from being able to try the event. After watching the utube whales struggle with much better geared squads, I decided it was not worth the effort to get those last 2 to 7*.
    Imagine my satisfaction when I watched the same utubers show repeatedly how nearly useless he was at 5*. I'm pretty sure I won't even try on the second pass unless we get a Ventress rework. I'm not gearing the Sep droids past g12 where they are now.
    Thank you CG for an event 3 times harder than any other event for half a character. I was seriously thinking about quitting until I saw how much GAS stinks at 5*. Now I will stick around a while longer and see what the next train wreck looks like.

    #GAS poured on a dumpster fire. Title of the next road ahead.
  • I was 2 units away from being able to try the event. After watching the utube whales struggle with much better geared squads, I decided it was not worth the effort to get those last 2 to 7*.
    Imagine my satisfaction when I watched the same utubers show repeatedly how nearly useless he was at 5*. I'm pretty sure I won't even try on the second pass unless we get a Ventress rework. I'm not gearing the Sep droids past g12 where they are now.
    Thank you CG for an event 3 times harder than any other event for half a character. I was seriously thinking about quitting until I saw how much GAS stinks at 5*. Now I will stick around a while longer and see what the next train wreck looks like.

    #GAS poured on a dumpster fire. Title of the next road ahead.
  • icanectc
    666 posts Member
    edited October 17
    TVF wrote: »
    evoluza wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    evoluza wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    evoluza wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Mutou_LuYa wrote: »
    I paid near mobile gamer amount to unlock GAS(so called meta) to 5 star and the toon is useless including bottleneck due to never save my GET. This is y I quit and gave the account to guildmate cuz I do not see y I should even bother playing/paying for something I cannot use. Its a 4 year old game and there is alot of better stuff out there. Learn to move on and open to other options. As a customer, I do not think it's ur job to teach the business/worker what needs to be done repetitively.

    Of course you can use him and he's not useless. "Useless" and "useless for what I wanted to use him for" are not the same.

    He does counter and take hits till health.
    This is indeed useless as a 5*.

    It's amazing how many people here don't play GA or TW, but ok.

    You trying to tell he was usefull in GA for you?
    He is based on pure stats. At 5* he is trash and gets beaten like a shaak ti clone squad. So he is basically a redundant character till he is 7* and cg made there new content les valuable by get1 income.
    It's a poor decision made by them

    There hasn't been a TW or GA he could be used in yet. So I'd love to know how you know he's trash.

    6000+ people unlocked him. Everyone in that lige has no use for a 5* skywalker.
    That makes him useless.

    I have no clue what this is supposed to mean but it's clear I need to stop trying at this point.

    You have to be trolling. There is clearly a disconnect to the requirements of his unlock and his usefulness. Yes he's useless is a bit subjective does he have a use case sure. Is it a long term viable one and worthy of the epicness of his unlock. Absolutely not. But if you think so then you are exactly the person cg wants to do business with, ludicrous requirements for a subpar character out the gate and require another significant farm before he becomes insanely powerful.

    Now while i am in the camp of claiming he is useless, because he is for what most people consider useful. Clearly that differs for you. There could be a method to cgs madness in how they viewed his delayed power creep, we are left to speculate because cg hasn't been heard from in the matter and i don't suspect we will. If they do great, but even then I'd be upset because then they would finally explain what there intent was, but only after people spent money getting him. If they had known in advanced of what they were getting people might have decided they didn't want to spend and could be willing to unlock him the second time around much cheaper.

    But cg doesn't do that instead they give the advertising Campaign they hype it people get excited and then are let down because expectations weren't met. Which is completely on cg....

    I don't really understand why this point is lost on you.
  • Lio wrote: »
    Lio wrote: »
    I've seen many threads complaining about 5* GAS. I still cannot understand why people are angry that a 5* toon isn't meta-defining. No toon is. Even Malak at 5* is very beatable.

    People are complaining BECAUSE he is 5*. For what that event took to get him, there is no justifiable way for him to not be a 7* unlock.

    Those are two different complaints. The 5* unlock I get. The "why does he suck at 5*" complaint I do not.

    Do you have him? At 5 stars?

    I do... worthless. Wait until you unlock if you haven't. If you have, how has he been doing in Arena? If not, you'll see.

    And he ain't malak. And this isn't pre G13 and R7...
  • CG blatantly lied to their players. They said that we were free to farm gear with our GET after Malek.

    The requirements for GAS were pretty steep.... given the fact at 5* he isn’t viable and it will take players who unlocked him the first round 4-5 months to get him to 7*, where he will be viable.

    By that time the event will roll around again and the players who get him the second time will basically have him at 7* the same time as the players who got him the first round.

    Why bother getting these type of characters the first go around.... absolutely no advantage what so ever.

    This is a very bad business decision. I won’t be shooting to unlock anymore of these characters the first go around. Just so happened I had everyone ready to get GAS the first time... but since CG lies, he is collecting dust.

    Now I have a 5* Negotiator I am not trying to star up because who knows what CG with be adding to the GET2 shipments. Malevolence perhaps. This guessing game is lame and the misleading info is a slap to the player base.
  • Has CG even responded at all to all the feedback on the GAS event and the outrage on needing GET1 tokens? The silence is deafening
  • mamba wrote: »
    Has CG even responded at all to all the feedback on the GAS event and the outrage on needing GET1 tokens? The silence is deafening

    What does your heart tell you?
  • Kyno
    21921 posts Moderator
    Vicarious wrote: »
    CG blatantly lied to their players. They said that we were free to farm gear with our GET after Malek.

    @Vicarious
    Please show a single quote where this was stated about GET1.
  • Kyno wrote: »
    Vicarious wrote: »
    CG blatantly lied to their players. They said that we were free to farm gear with our GET after Malek.

    @Vicarious
    Please show a single quote where this was stated about GET1.

    Kyno is correct cg never mentioned guild event store. They mentioned it for there reasons to keep shards out of gac rewards. People keep assuming they also confirmed incorrectly that would mean no new characters in guild event store.

    Specifically cg mentioned no character shards in the gac store.

    Still overall was really stupid of them to release him this way
    making first time player unlocks more difficult to achieve 7* then second time around players who would have spent way less. Imo.
  • DropItLikeItHoth
    137 posts Member
    edited October 18
    For the love of god, they somehow made this problem WORSE??!!

    150 shards of Malak to everyone?!

    Really? So not only do us GAS first timers have to save our currency exclusively for GAS now everyone else gets Malak for free and won’t have to spend their GET 1 on him.

    I can’t even process how epically ridiculous this move is.
  • Ikky2win
    828 posts Member
    edited October 18
    The biggest flaw in this is that people who basically had no GET saved will 7* it at the same time as someone who gets it the second time around.

    Player 1: Gets GAS the first time but has no GET saved.
    Player 2: Doesn’t get GAS the first time, but immediately starts saving GET.

    Both players will get a useful character at roughly the same time (assuming the second release of GAS is around the same time it takes to save up roughly 68k GET). As others have said, this just teaches people not to spend to get a character the first time.
  • TVF wrote: »
    evoluza wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    evoluza wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    evoluza wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Mutou_LuYa wrote: »
    I paid near mobile gamer amount to unlock GAS(so called meta) to 5 star and the toon is useless including bottleneck due to never save my GET. This is y I quit and gave the account to guildmate cuz I do not see y I should even bother playing/paying for something I cannot use. Its a 4 year old game and there is alot of better stuff out there. Learn to move on and open to other options. As a customer, I do not think it's ur job to teach the business/worker what needs to be done repetitively.

    Of course you can use him and he's not useless. "Useless" and "useless for what I wanted to use him for" are not the same.

    He does counter and take hits till health.
    This is indeed useless as a 5*.

    It's amazing how many people here don't play GA or TW, but ok.

    You trying to tell he was usefull in GA for you?
    He is based on pure stats. At 5* he is trash and gets beaten like a shaak ti clone squad. So he is basically a redundant character till he is 7* and cg made there new content les valuable by get1 income.
    It's a poor decision made by them

    There hasn't been a TW or GA he could be used in yet. So I'd love to know how you know he's trash.

    6000+ people unlocked him. Everyone in that lige has no use for a 5* skywalker.
    That makes him useless.

    I have no clue what this is supposed to mean but it's clear I need to stop trying at this point.

    I understand what you are saying that he is not "useless" because you can drop him in TW or GA. As someone who has him for this GA, and used him in TW, let me show you how useful he is. For him to be good, he needs a full 501st team, which means using Ahsoka. If I do that, I lose her in my DR killing Padme team. This makes my Padme team worse in any regard, and removes the 100% kill DR chance. If I do that, I get a marginally better Shaak Ti team at the cost of my DR killing team. Not a good option.

    As GR, I tried subbing him in the Padme team over C3PO. He dies almost instantly because his health pool at 5 stars is garbage.

    I can use him in a JKR team, against the typical GA team they counter Sep droids. He would replace...Juhani.

    So my best option is a Juhani replacement in a JKR team, which beats out making a slightly better Shaak ti team at the cost of hurting the Padme team. That sounds useless to me.

    I know your next response is "They already said ARC is coming soon! Then Padme gets Ahsoka back, just be patient". So then I get the privilege of using a 3 star ARC, making the team 100% worse than a Shaak Ti clone team with G12s. So I'll likely have to wait a few months and HOPE that when ARC is relic the team is better than Shaak Ti clones.

    Any way you slice it, this was the most disappointing unlock of a rare toon and its not close. This was a disaster.
  • YanM123
    40 posts Member
    edited October 18
    Why has there not been any comment/statements on this topic? It literally took half an hour after your shift at cg started to comment on the small malak issue, but still not a single word after a full week of General Skywalker being out regarding all the concerns about him.

    You are leaving your dedicated player base in the dark, after angering them with the release of half a character.
  • Liath
    4866 posts Member
    YanM123 wrote: »
    Why has there not been any comment/statements on this topic? It literally took half an hour after your shift at cg started to comment on the small malak issue, but still not a single word after a full week of General Skywalker being out regarding all the concerns about him.

    You are leaving your dedicated player base in the dark, after angering them with the release of half a character.

    Because the Malak issue was a bug and GAS is as intended?
  • evoluza
    2289 posts Member
    Liath wrote: »
    YanM123 wrote: »
    Why has there not been any comment/statements on this topic? It literally took half an hour after your shift at cg started to comment on the small malak issue, but still not a single word after a full week of General Skywalker being out regarding all the concerns about him.

    You are leaving your dedicated player base in the dark, after angering them with the release of half a character.

    Because the Malak issue was a bug and GAS is as intended?

    Skywalker is an issue too!
    Releasing end game characters that require second hand hoth content to maximize him faster is ridiculous.
    If anything should endgame content promote other endgame content.
  • Liath
    4866 posts Member
    evoluza wrote: »
    Liath wrote: »
    YanM123 wrote: »
    Why has there not been any comment/statements on this topic? It literally took half an hour after your shift at cg started to comment on the small malak issue, but still not a single word after a full week of General Skywalker being out regarding all the concerns about him.

    You are leaving your dedicated player base in the dark, after angering them with the release of half a character.

    Because the Malak issue was a bug and GAS is as intended?

    Skywalker is an issue too!
    Releasing end game characters that require second hand hoth content to maximize him faster is ridiculous.
    If anything should endgame content promote other endgame content.

    The fact that you don’t like it doesn’t make it something that needs to be changed from CG’s perspective. There have been tons of things people have wailed about that haven’t been changed. And if they have no plans to change it (which clearly they don’t) then there’s no reason for them to say anything.
  • So you guys managed to create a problem so big it gives you cover from the debacle earlier in the week. I swear you guys have a life in politics ahead of you after this game finally shuts down. Wag the dog.
  • So nearly 2 weeks have gone by and not even an indirect mention of the GAS issue. Maybe while you are fixing the Malak issue you can take a look at the other players that got ignored because of another problem of your own making.
  • So nearly 2 weeks have gone by and not even an indirect mention of the GAS issue. Maybe while you are fixing the Malak issue you can take a look at the other players that got ignored because of another problem of your own making.

    They don't see an issue with it, apparently. And keep in mind that the number of players who see this as an issue, according to CG, is minimal. They simply don't care.

  • What exactly do you expect CG is going to come out and say? The honest response would be:

    "Hi all. We are aware there is dissatisfaction with General Skywalker being a 5 star unlock, with the remainder of the shards being purchasable for GET1. It seems that this dissatisfaction stems significantly from the community misinterpreting a statement where we said that there were 'no immediate plans' to add anyone to the Grand Arena Championship store, as opposed to the Guild Event store. Please understand that we never stated that no new characters would be added to the Guild Event Store. Indeed, in our prior Epic Confrontation event, the character was unlocked at 5 star and then purchasable for GET1. While we understand placing another character in the Guild Event store means that people have to choose whether to spend their GET1 on characters or gear, resource management is certainly a large part of the strategy of Galaxy of Heroes."

    That would do nothing but fan more flames, without resolving a single thing. People aren't looking for true communication. They want CG to apologize for saying "spend all of your GET1 because there will never be another character for GET1!" even though CG never said that.

    QFT

  • DarthJarX2 wrote: »
    You guys will still have a very useful team for GAC & TW with a 5* GAS. And you will have an advantage over the ones who don't have him unlocked in those 2 modes. He might not be arena viable at 5* but you can just keep using your regular Malak, GG, Padme teams (or whatever it is that you're using) to get #1 in arena. You paid for a character, you got him. You will be superior to others (the non-unlockers) in TW and GAC; arena will stay the same. So where's the problem?

    I think the problem is in the following:
    Phase 1 requires
    Windy cap ship, ETA, +3 GR ships
    Which means Mace windy, Anakin, +3 GR characters at g10 or more.
    (5 ships + 5 characters with gear)
    Phase 2 requires
    Padme (requiring 5 seperatists)
    C3P0 (requiring 5 Ewoks)
    Ahsoka and Shaak Ti,
    then General Kenobi (which probably requires some characters to, I don't know, do the tank raid)
    (12 characters + g12/13)
    And finally, the last phase. That one I will give you for free, since you could use those 5 to get Padme, but still need gear.
    In summary: 5 ships, 17 characters, with at least G10 and up to G13.
    I got a 7* Thrawn with a G10 Phoenix team.
    CG has made characters harder to get and less worthwhile, all while demanding more gear and taking more ways to get gear away.


    19 characters and 5 ships actually.
    Mace, Anakin, +3 GR for the ships. We'll make ahsoka one of those so 5 there
    5 seps to get padme. Another 5, plus padme herself makes 11
    5 ewoks for 3p0. Another 5 + 3p0 makes 17.
    Ahsoka, covered in ship phase.
    Shaak Ti and General Kenobi make 19 characters required at 7* and geared.
  • Malak was different.

    Nope. Epic Confrontation = 5* unlock + GET store.

    It was the same issue with oblivious players when sneaky CG changed the rules from “Hero’s Journeys” to “Ancient Journeys”. “Legendary” events are different too and now we have Epic Confrontations. Pay attention and you won’t get caught with your pants down and your hand out looking for a refund.

    CG is supposed to be adding layers of confusion to the game. That’s what keeps most of us engaged and always thinking of ways to win.

    ...do you even Sabacc?


  • TheRHOMBUS wrote: »
    Malak was different.

    Nope. Epic Confrontation = 5* unlock + GET store.

    It was the same issue with oblivious players when sneaky CG changed the rules from “Hero’s Journeys” to “Ancient Journeys”. “Legendary” events are different too and now we have Epic Confrontations. Pay attention and you won’t get caught with your pants down and your hand out looking for a refund.

    CG is supposed to be adding layers of confusion to the game. That’s what keeps most of us engaged and always thinking of ways to win.

    ...do you even Sabacc?


    This doesn't keep us engaged and thinking of ways to win though. It angers the community and pushes people to quit the game. Might be time to switch tactics.
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