Spy Can 1-Shot Rey Before Her Team Moves - WAI?

SnakesOnAPlane
4099 posts Member
edited April 4
1:20 into the video. 300k shot. The player’s team is crud other than Spy. Is this WAI? Did CG intend for Spy to be able to do this out of the gate? Debate!

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  • Akenno
    506 posts Member
    Seems WAI. The Rey lineup would need a pre taunt.
  • Enemy’s Rey here:

    https://swgoh.gg/p/984268118/characters/rey

    That modding is going to cause all sorts of problems as it is.
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  • Akenno wrote: »
    Seems WAI. The Rey lineup would need a pre taunt.

    Does Spy hitting for 300k out of the gate (and only an R6 Spy) go against the spirit of the game?
    SnakesOnAPlane
  • ToLive
    87 posts Member
    Akenno wrote: »
    Seems WAI. The Rey lineup would need a pre taunt.

    Does Spy hitting for 300k out of the gate (and only an R6 Spy) go against the spirit of the game?

    He did it not out of the gate but with certain circumstances: he needs stealth and status effects on both.
  • Vendi1983
    3925 posts Member
    Awesome
  • It’s pretty brilliant really. Tip of the cap.
  • Jarvind
    3595 posts Member
    Neat gimmick but that team isn't going to hold on defense against anything, so it's kinda not a big deal imo.
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  • Definitely wai. Spy is a beast under the right conditions, and deserves to be one shotting anyone.
  • ZAP
    3089 posts Member
    Definitely wai. Spy is a beast under the right conditions, and deserves to be one shotting anyone.

    Deserves is an interesting choice of words for a 10 energy cantina farm

  • Legend91
    1264 posts Member
    It's WAI but most likely not expected by the devs, hotfix coming I guess (nerfing Spy or adding smth to Rey's kit). Some nice theory crafting there anyway.
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  • Kyno
    24057 posts Moderator
    Enemy’s Rey here:

    https://swgoh.gg/p/984268118/characters/rey

    That modding is going to cause all sorts of problems as it is.

    Can you link the mods and stuff on the Spy setup too?
    Akenno wrote: »
    Seems WAI. The Rey lineup would need a pre taunt.

    Does Spy hitting for 300k out of the gate (and only an R6 Spy) go against the spirit of the game?

    does it? why would it, development is good.

    will it be seen this way, or cause changes....only time will tell.
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    I see this as a GG nuke team. they didn't change that, so I am hopeful they wont do anything here. the team has a specific setup for a specific purpose. I would also imagine that team can still lose on offense even with taking out those targets first.
  • Why change anything? Spy hitting for crazy numbers with a ton of buffs on the field has been happening for months.
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  • Legend91
    1264 posts Member
    Why change anything? Spy hitting for crazy numbers with a ton of buffs on the field has been happening for months.

    Yeah but now the latest shiny toon is in danger. When JKR was in danger due to Nest they nerfed the bonus protection gain mechanic. When DR was in danger due to Palp's TM gain lead they quickly released Malak and completely shut down the sith TM gain. Now Rey is in danger due to Spy bypassing the dmg immunity thing by simply one shotting her with an absurdly high dmg hit. Chances are high there will be smth coming up.
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  • ZAP
    3089 posts Member
    Why change anything? Spy hitting for crazy numbers with a ton of buffs on the field has been happening for months.

    It has happened in the past to chars that were working the same for months prior, whether it was a change to the character or a change to something that character was affecting.

    I tend to agree with Kynos take on it and truly time will tell what CG does, if anything.

  • mikk207
    148 posts Member
    Enemy’s Rey here:

    https://swgoh.gg/p/984268118/characters/rey

    That modding is going to cause all sorts of problems as it is.

    if these are the mods used in this vid I am not sure it will work on a propper modded resistance team.
    these mods are ... trash
  • Nihion
    2836 posts Member
    Legend91 wrote: »
    Why change anything? Spy hitting for crazy numbers with a ton of buffs on the field has been happening for months.

    Yeah but now the latest shiny toon is in danger. When JKR was in danger due to Nest they nerfed the bonus protection gain mechanic. When DR was in danger due to Palp's TM gain lead they quickly released Malak and completely shut down the sith TM gain. Now Rey is in danger due to Spy bypassing the dmg immunity thing by simply one shotting her with an absurdly high dmg hit. Chances are high there will be smth coming up.

    No. She’s still a beast. If they change it, whatever, but considering that any Rey or GAS team could beat that on D, there’s really not that much of a threat.
  • CosmicJ
    324 posts Member
    I'll be disappointed if they change this in any way.
  • Akenno wrote: »
    Seems WAI. The Rey lineup would need a pre taunt.

    Does Spy hitting for 300k out of the gate (and only an R6 Spy) go against the spirit of the game?

    Plenty of characters can hit for over 100k and well into million. Why not him ?
  • Just put Malak on your Rey team to counter sith. Also for spy, pretaunts are key. Don’t think they should nerf this, as Rey will only be getting stronger as people find her a better comp and her ult unlocks...
  • If you look carefully at the turn order, you can see that Dooku goes right after GL Rey, before RH Finn. That seems to be a crucial part of the plan, as Dooku needs to feed TM to make the team all go before the opponent (except for Rey of course).

    Now, Dooku's base speed is 187. Finn's is 183 and he gets another 30 from Rey lead. Does it seem to you like a reliable counter, given that you only need to mod Finn to not be more than 26 speed slower than Dooku?

  • If you look carefully at the turn order, you can see that Dooku goes right after GL Rey, before RH Finn. That seems to be a crucial part of the plan, as Dooku needs to feed TM to make the team all go before the opponent (except for Rey of course).

    Now, Dooku's base speed is 187. Finn's is 183 and he gets another 30 from Rey lead. Does it seem to you like a reliable counter, given that you only need to mod Finn to not be more than 26 speed slower than Dooku?

    Can’t you just use Wat and put weapon tech on Dooku? Then he will gain 15% Tm.

    Also does Jango need to be there?
  • Azazel61 wrote: »
    If you look carefully at the turn order, you can see that Dooku goes right after GL Rey, before RH Finn. That seems to be a crucial part of the plan, as Dooku needs to feed TM to make the team all go before the opponent (except for Rey of course).

    Now, Dooku's base speed is 187. Finn's is 183 and he gets another 30 from Rey lead. Does it seem to you like a reliable counter, given that you only need to mod Finn to not be more than 26 speed slower than Dooku?
    Can’t you just use Wat and put weapon tech on Dooku? Then he will gain 15% Tm.

    Also does Jango need to be there?
    TM tech also gives armor penetration for Spy and Jango reduces max health on debuffed enemies. Without these two factors the team likely wouldn't work.

    A 310 speed CLS team with a r7 Han also steamrolls a DR team that has a speed below 250. Doesn't mean it's not WAI.
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