Any plans to fix AI dodge bug?

Really getting annoying to be dodged, detected, juked, siked, missed, slipped, faked, sidestepped, jumped, twerked, leaped, -Barris lands (DOAH!) dodged, detected, etc..
Seriously, has anyone heard if this will be addressed?
Use the force Luke.... and get rid of that stupid musket.

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  • Yudoka
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    What's the bug exactly? Random is random. Characters like Doku on lead or Sid just have high evasion rates.
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    It's not a bug, it's a stealth balance to give the defender a chance.
  • Eaywen
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    My math says there's no bug
  • SlyGambit
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    They DID fix the dodge bug. Before bug leader dodge abilities did not work. Now they do.

    Working as intended, comrade.
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    Another guy that can't handle it when his careful constructed 7* Tie Pilot misses his chance to one shot the opponent's heaviest hitter.
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  • Yudoka
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    Another guy that can't handle it when his careful constructed 7* Tie Pilot misses his chance to one shot the opponent's heaviest hitter.

    What's "carefully constructed"? This game doesn't currently offer individual character customization.

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    Yudoka wrote: »
    Another guy that can't handle it when his careful constructed 7* Tie Pilot misses his chance to one shot the opponent's heaviest hitter.

    What's "carefully constructed"? This game doesn't currently offer individual character customization.

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    Yudoka wrote: »
    Another guy that can't handle it when his careful constructed 7* Tie Pilot misses his chance to one shot the opponent's heaviest hitter.

    What's "carefully constructed"? This game doesn't currently offer individual character customization.

    Figure of speech big guy.

    lol
  • Olle
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    Another guy that can't handle it when his careful constructed 7* Tie Pilot misses his chance to one shot the opponent's heaviest hitter.

    Or he can't handle how his opponents Rey/GS/FOTP just dodged and then one shotted almost anyone on your team.

    Ya in one of those "dodge is ****" guys. But not because the dodge itself. It's because the dps problem is way worse now that they can also dodge, get offence and one shot you.

    All these people are like "it's a meta change". It's not. It's just worse now.
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    Olle wrote: »
    Another guy that can't handle it when his careful constructed 7* Tie Pilot misses his chance to one shot the opponent's heaviest hitter.

    Or he can't handle how his opponents Rey/GS/FOTP just dodged and then one shotted almost anyone on your team.

    Ya in one of those "dodge is ****" guys. But not because the dodge itself. It's because the dps problem is way worse now that they can also dodge, get offence and one shot you.

    All these people are like "it's a meta change". It's not. It's just worse now.

    Exactly
    Use the force Luke.... and get rid of that stupid musket.
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    Eaywen wrote: »
    My math says there's no bug

    Awesome! Let's see your math.
    Use the force Luke.... and get rid of that stupid musket.
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    Yudoka wrote: »
    Another guy that can't handle it when his careful constructed 7* Tie Pilot misses his chance to one shot the opponent's heaviest hitter.

    What's "carefully constructed"? This game doesn't currently offer individual character customization.

    Figure of speech big guy.

    Soooo, maybe your retort should have been more "carefully constructed"
    Use the force Luke.... and get rid of that stupid musket.
  • RAYRAY
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    Olle wrote: »
    Another guy that can't handle it when his careful constructed 7* Tie Pilot misses his chance to one shot the opponent's heaviest hitter.

    Or he can't handle how his opponents Rey/GS/FOTP just dodged and then one shotted almost anyone on your team.

    Ya in one of those "dodge is ****" guys. But not because the dodge itself. It's because the dps problem is way worse now that they can also dodge, get offence and one shot you.

    All these people are like "it's a meta change". It's not. It's just worse now.

    I agree that the Dooku lead thing isn't a meta change. At most it is just another viable strategy. That being said, Dooku lead is still not as good as QGJ lead. There are a lot that are using dooku now because it is viable and want something different. I beat them with my QGJ team 9/10 times.
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    Singleton don't be a ****
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    The Dooku dodge is fine (I've been on both sides of it).

    On the other hand, I think that his Offense Up should only apply if you dodge the damage and not a secondary effect. But that's a relatively minor thing.
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    darkensoul wrote: »
    Singleton don't be a ****

    lol i like the hat!! and agree
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    darkensoul wrote: »
    Singleton don't be a ****

    lol i like the hat!! and agree

    Hah thx. Just goofing off at work one day
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    darkensoul wrote: »
    Singleton don't be a ****
    Ya thought that one up all by yourself? You should be so proud, I see what you did there... Because the words are so similar... ****
    Valid question met by **** response, who's the ****?
    Nice hat by the way.
    Use the force Luke.... and get rid of that stupid musket.
  • Olle
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    RAYRAY wrote: »

    I agree that the Dooku lead thing isn't a meta change. At most it is just another viable strategy. That being said, Dooku lead is still not as good as QGJ lead. There are a lot that are using dooku now because it is viable and want something different. I beat them with my QGJ team 9/10 times.

    What does your team look like? Just curious if there's yoda in there.

    The team I have trouble with is dooku lead, GS Rey QGJ RG. Basically anytime you miss GS Rey or QGJ they will one shot you very soon. RG makes them very hard to kill unless you have a similar team that can act first, such as QGJ lead where your hoping you kill Rey before her turn.
    Amalthea wrote: »
    The Dooku dodge is fine (I've been on both sides of it).

    On the other hand, I think that his Offense Up should only apply if you dodge the damage and not a secondary effect. But that's a relatively minor thing.

    It's not minor. This is a huge nerf to people like daka, her basic is giving the other team offense up because her second stun was evaded. This means the best counter to dooku is dps and not crowd control, making the game even more dps heavy. Poe is giving the other team offense up on his taunt? Crazy talk.

    I just do not understand why they don't decrease the damage of OP toons. How long has this been a problem? A long long long time. When is it going to be fixed? In a long long long time.
  • 7AnimalMother
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    Personally I think the only bug is that AI Dooku is really good at making his team dodge, but my Dooku don't do dook..ie.
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    Olle wrote: »
    RAYRAY wrote: »

    I agree that the Dooku lead thing isn't a meta change. At most it is just another viable strategy. That being said, Dooku lead is still not as good as QGJ lead. There are a lot that are using dooku now because it is viable and want something different. I beat them with my QGJ team 9/10 times.

    What does your team look like? Just curious if there's yoda in there.

    The team I have trouble with is dooku lead, GS Rey QGJ RG. Basically anytime you miss GS Rey or QGJ they will one shot you very soon. RG makes them very hard to kill unless you have a similar team that can act first, such as QGJ lead where your hoping you kill Rey before her turn.
    Amalthea wrote: »
    The Dooku dodge is fine (I've been on both sides of it).

    On the other hand, I think that his Offense Up should only apply if you dodge the damage and not a secondary effect. But that's a relatively minor thing.

    It's not minor. This is a huge nerf to people like daka, her basic is giving the other team offense up because her second stun was evaded. This means the best counter to dooku is dps and not crowd control, making the game even more dps heavy. Poe is giving the other team offense up on his taunt? Crazy talk.

    I just do not understand why they don't decrease the damage of OP toons. How long has this been a problem? A long long long time. When is it going to be fixed? In a long long long time.

    Valid points. I am curious to know the makeup of teams that have better success against the dodging teams. Dooku led teams in particular. I have the most success against them with QGJ led teams but even then, I do not believe the dodge rate is as stated percentage wise, or I should say it certainly doesn't feel like it. In any event I do not have any one-hit kill toons, so after getting through the first wave or two of dodges, I'm exposed to be one hit myself. That's where the problem is.
    Use the force Luke.... and get rid of that stupid musket.
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