Dooku + foresight squad is so infuriating!
Dooku (L)
RP
Rey
GS
Sid
It's such a nightmare of a team. It doesn't matter what squad combo I go for, I lose 90% of the time.
As most people would (I guess), I go for Rey first. But for some reason enemy Dooku has a fetish for my GS. He always chooses to stun him, which means I can't kill Rey. OR it misses, then Rey evades GS assist.... It's basically all over them and there. If Rey gets a turn I've lost.
My usual arena team is Dooku, Sid, GS, poggle and ig86 all max star and gear. Also have lumi, ig88 and Poe max star and gear, and others like RG, QGJ, daka, greedo, phasma, Rey and hk at 4/5/6*.
I place top 5 in arena every day and 1st 5/7 days of the week with 1x crystal refresh. But if the current number 1 spot is said kryptonite squad I'm pretty much guarenteed to come 2nd at best.
I have no trouble with QGJ led speed teams, or other Dooku lead teams, but this one.... Makes me feel like Solo being stabbed by his son
Any advise almighty forumites?
RP
Rey
GS
Sid
It's such a nightmare of a team. It doesn't matter what squad combo I go for, I lose 90% of the time.
As most people would (I guess), I go for Rey first. But for some reason enemy Dooku has a fetish for my GS. He always chooses to stun him, which means I can't kill Rey. OR it misses, then Rey evades GS assist.... It's basically all over them and there. If Rey gets a turn I've lost.
My usual arena team is Dooku, Sid, GS, poggle and ig86 all max star and gear. Also have lumi, ig88 and Poe max star and gear, and others like RG, QGJ, daka, greedo, phasma, Rey and hk at 4/5/6*.
I place top 5 in arena every day and 1st 5/7 days of the week with 1x crystal refresh. But if the current number 1 spot is said kryptonite squad I'm pretty much guarenteed to come 2nd at best.
I have no trouble with QGJ led speed teams, or other Dooku lead teams, but this one.... Makes me feel like Solo being stabbed by his son
Any advise almighty forumites?
Dc - RoF
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Accept a drop in rank because others have a stronger team
Remember you lost against a dumb AI as well
Way to boost his self esteem, lol.
Your problem most likely lies in your team composition. 3 of 5 of your characters are fish bait, essentially. They cannot provide enough damage to speed in order to kill a Rey before she acts. You would be better off using a QGJ over Sid.
Thanks for the advise. Much more helpful than top dog jazz. Yeah I worked on Poe to get him to 7* first so my QGJ is only half way to 6*. Fully geared mind. Just thought he wouldn't cut it at 5*.
My Rey is also 5*, not sure whether to sub her in more 86 too. Hmm... Thanks for the input though (Y)
If GS is getting stunned by Dooku all the time then you're just having bad luck tbh.
But your team comp is not exactly favored either.
Add some stunners too, and focus on stunning and slowing the dangerous toons. Remember, a debuffed Rey isn't that dangerous.
Many of the toons in your team have low health. Of course they run a bigger risk of getting one shotted by Rey then. Savage might help. He has tons of HP, good damage and unavoidable special attack.
Also consider ST Han, since he can give your team a lot of extra attacks by triggering Dooku to double counter attack him.
In short, try different compositions. It takes time, but trust me, it is infinitely more useful for solving the problem than writing on the forums about it.
I guess maybe adding in Poe or RG to taunt could help to win?
With Poe, Rey will still act first and have a chance to kill a character. However if you are F2P it's the easier pick.
With Dooku teams the RNG sometimes can go crazy but you have a Dooku team yourself so I guess it evens out in the long run.
If you have the toons, why not change your entire team? They don't have to be maxed. If they have the right skill set they can still be a great counter. And considering how many run Dooku teams now, any team that works decently vs those on offense wouldn't be too bad on defense either.
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/24455/dooku-led-teams-can-be-defeated-and-here-is-how-i-did-it#latest
Does this actually work? I'm assuming Savage could do the same to gain TM and OU?
To defend the rank is different, because Royal Guard needs 4 fast attackers to be useful (for example GS, Rey, QGJ as leader and Yoda), all faster than Poe, or an human control for to decide who stun, the AI at the beginning applies defense up, when the best would be stun to some character, so Royal Guard is not very useful to defend the rank, I'm losing around 25 positions during the rest of the day using Royal Guard, when using Kylo Ren usually I only lose 10-15 positions.
My best team to defend the rank is Poggle (L), GS, IG-86, Poe and Kylo Ren. Also I'm farming QGJ, Rey, Dooku and Yoda, but they need more stars.
It is an example of almost the team that you say (in this case with QGJ, without RP), with Poe and RG in the same team:
As you can see, if you have skill 7 in the unique ability of RG, he goes first than GS, because, thanks to Dooku and Sid, RG gain a lot of turn meter, so you can stun GS at the beginning, if it don't works doesn't matter, because Royal Guard will protect the characters. Then you can kill Rey with GS, but you need Poggle as leader, this +25% is very important, without the +25% offense maybe Rey can survive and then she will gain foresight.
Then is turn of Poggle and Poe taunt (-25% turn meter reduction and expose), so now you can kill RP or QGJ with IG-86, is the same tactic. In this case QGJ survived, but a lot of case you will kill Rey and QGJ/RP with GS and IG-86. Anyway, the enemy needs kill RG and Poe before attack IG-86 and GS, so the attackers are protected. After kill Rey and QGJ/RP is very easy, IG-86 is very strong with the bassic attack and the +75% offense, crits of around 9K and normal attacks of around 6K, and your GS will be able to use again the special ability.
It is another example:
Always is the same: attack Rey with GS and QGJ/RP with IG-86, but in this case GS was exposed, so also is a good option, because without GS the team is ended.
Kylo Ren is very nice to get the rank and defend the rank against Dooku teams, because you can start using the "outrage" and in the second turn the AoE ability, then Dooku will use counterattack and Kylo will have 45% chance to restart cooldowns in every attack, if Dooku attack 2 times is a lot of chance to restart the cooldowns, and if the health of Kylo is below 50% have 75% more offense, that with the offense up is 125% more, the crits of Kylo with +125% are around 16K, can Kill Poe with only 1 attack for example, so is very useful with Poe, but if you don't have Kylo you can use RG.
Also you can use RP if you don't have Kylo Ren, it is an example:
RP is very strong, and he gain foresight and a lot of turn meter when deal a critical hit or evade an attack. The best of Kylo is that can resist an attack of enemy GS and below 50% health he gain +75% offense on his "outrage", but RP also is useful.
And finally, it is an example of the team with Kylo Ren and he resisted the attack of GS vs a droid team, and almost killing Poe with only 1 attack, if it had been critical he had died.
Cheers everyone. Will give all your advice a try. I need to get some toons starred up. If I can find a comp. that works specifically for this team I'll post it.... Then just go back to the old faithful squad for defense. Not that there is anything such as good defense atm, although I don't seem to fall past 15th overnight/day with my current team
I see your point though - I'll give poggle (l), GS, 86, Poe, RG a try against the dreaded foresight/evade squad. Then maybe switch back to my 'defense' team after reward time
Still, I am intrigued about bringing a less than 7* RG in to arena. Might have to try it, because it certainly can't be any worse than what I have been experiencing lately.
My RG now is 5 stars, 9/85, is easy to farm with the shipments, tonihght I bought 5 shards by 250 crystals and I got 2 shards with the hard nodes, 7 shards today, is easy but expensive, a good rank in the arena is needed. In the level 80 and full gear RG will have 26.798 health (40% more than Poe), so will be very needed.
I normally wouldn't do arena in the am but I found a similar team (Jinn instead of Sid) and here's how I handle it with my usual arena setup. The key players here are Yoda, RG and Lumi.
Yoda is there to shut down Dooku's annoying tendency to stun 1 or 2 players in the first round, which can cost you the match. He also will prevent enemy Jinns from debuffing anyone, and since the AI is stupid, he will usually waste his first turn trying rather than using his deadly assist attack (as he did here).
RG is there to draw fire, but more importantly, to stun. His early stun is amazingly useful if you can get one to land. If not, it's a lot of HP for the bad guys to go through. Also, even when he doesn't stun, he slows, so he can debuff Rey. (Lumi can as well, but her low potency is an issue.)
Late in the game if the other team has had bad luck or the AI has been especially dumb, a green RG can even stun Dooku making him easy to take out.
It's fashionable now to go with non-healer teams but IMO Lumi is worth using on any RG team simply to keep him alive and also "in the green" longer. She also is strong in her own right (7k crit in this fight), her ability block is a life-saver and she is fast with Jinn leading.
I had a bit of good luck in this fight (my Jinn didn't get one-hit for example, and near the end got a nice crit from Lumi on an assist) but also some bad (a fair number of dodges at bad times). I could certainly lose with really bad luck, but in the end it wasn't actually that close. And 3 of my guys are still 6*, and my opponent was 1 level higher.
Video: https://vid.me/JpQp
Sid is arguably more annoying than Jinn, but also less dangerous. Yoda shuts down his DoTs and healing immunity early in the game when it matters most, and after that he's just a pest you eventually knock out. Even with 3 Jedi I'd rather face Sid than Jinn in that slot. If you aren't running Yoda, he's much more of a threat. But then you also aren't running Jedi, so he doesn't have 50% dodge on everything.
It is an example:
I have a lot of videos about this team here:
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/20150/royal-guard-and-poe-in-the-same-team-strategy-against-teams-with-qgj-yoda-and-rey
Is very useful to get the rank, but is better use Poggle as leader and Kylo Ren instead of RG to defend the rank.
My least favorite opponent now. ughhh
Dooku
Sid
Poggle
Lumi
Fives
All max everything. But I am about to switch to another free to play or mostly free to play team I have massive hopes on till phasma fives become a item haha.
Assajj
Daka
Dooku
RG
Any dps character you have for me 86 working on FOTP and RP as well as Rey. It's work getting this together especially since i invested so much in another route. However, in a week or two my team will be geared for arena runs.
Assajj has two things going for her... One is she is slow... Many characters like yoda will have added foresight... She can try to aoe that away or she can use her special to heal and get rid of a lot of buffs including taunts by a RG .. Or Poe... And two her leader speed bonus to Daka... Who stuns often and a lot...
In my server there are a lot of Royal Guards now LOL I was one of the first to start to use he, now maybe 25% teams have RG. With Daka is a good combination if she survives, or if the enemy try to kill Rey at the beginning, for example. Also Ewok Elder would be very useful because the chance to revive is 100%, Daka have 35%+10% = 45%. A good combination can be with RG, Daka and Lumi, then Rey and GS as the attackers, with Lumi as leader, that is good healer but also good attacker, but to defend the rank is better with Dooku. Today I won 1 battle against 1 team with RG and I lost 2 battles LOL