I’d like Lord Vader lead to have the Darth-Vader DoT-returning capability. I’m not entirely sure if it would make a difference, but LV inflicts so many irresistable DoTs that last all of 5 seconds against JMK.
It may not help a huge amount but the dark side characters used with lv need their ai tweaked. Piett doesn't mark lord vader and darth vader doesn't use mm on their first turns, maul doesn't target cat. If all these happened then it would atleast make it harder to counter on defence then what it is atm.
It may not help a huge amount but the dark side characters used with lv need their ai tweaked. Piett doesn't mark lord vader and darth vader doesn't use mm on their first turns, maul doesn't target cat. If all these happened then it would atleast make it harder to counter on defence then what it is atm.
Don't get me wrong I definitely think the AI needs tweaked on this, Piett should always mark LV so it calls him to assist, he can take the taunt he's beefy enough. DV not using MM is from the EP days, where using AoE first would fill his TM and then he would MM and use all of them, which makes sense on that team but not anymore. His AI should know which leader he has and adjust accordingly. Maul targeting CAT won't change much though because JMK can simply wait a turn to use his CD reduction and she can still get it off. But changing just the AI isn't gonna be enough here, LV needs kit tweaks as well because as I see it, you use his ult at 100% and you get an ability block immediately, then do nothing for 5 turns while you can't build more ult. 5 turns is a long time to do nothing
LV's initial damage is so poor because they don't have a system that would add a damage constant on top of an otherwise final value. Now they have to start from very low or otherwise it ramps up to unnaturally high numbers. The current LV damage ramp up style is not very satisfying (the initial low dmg numbers), and they should have noticed and solved this problem early in the design.
The AI is somewhat understandable. Darth Vader uses AOE before MM so that he could not be slotted in an SLKR team (at the time) for too much profit. Maul plays like a fool to give a view of a lax opponent. This is nothing new, the issue lies with the overall power level of LV.
A little bit more could be said about the dysfunctional nature of the team. For example, if LV was the only tank (like JML), and Royal Guard hid himself the team's act would look a lot more coherent. Maybe we are still missing a piece of the puzzle because this cannot be the final product, can it?
Disclaimer: Everything below refers to the 5v5 format. I have no experience in regards to his 3v3 performance.
Pretty much only went up against JMK, CAT, GAS, AT, GK teams so far, some easier ones with R7 avg and some nearly fully maxed out ones with R8 across the board and mod sets like +190 on JMK (CD triangle, offense cross) and +165 on CAT (CD triangle and offense cross).
On offense he's fine and can actually full auto those JMK teams after the initial manual targeting on CAT for the cooldown increase (will come to that later). I gotta say though that before entering the 2nd or even 3rd ult, the fun factor isn't really there, mainly due to the lack of dmg in the team. LV hits like a wet noodle and Maul can't even trigger the savior on GK with full seething spam and burning all 5 stacks if the GK is propperly modded. As others have alrdy pointed out LV's ultimate is pretty lame. Sure, he upgrades himself, gets a bonus turn and does his nice locked ability block AoE (only 1 turn ability block though) but then you just hope for his ult state to end as soon as possible (unfortunately you have to endure 5 turns) - you actually feel uncomfortable while he's in his 1st ult. That's a serious design flaw, you should never feel bad and hope for it to end when your GL is in it's ult state.
On defense he sucks. But I see this mainly as a problem due to bad AI. Especially Maul doesn't act smart and not only uses his CD increase randomly but also doesn't set himself up for a follow up CD increase next turn - something that he does when he only starts on 3 stacks of anguish against non Kenobi teams. There he actually starts off with his AoE to get 5 stacks and wait for his frenzy to trigger and give him another turn to then use his CD increase. It would be so much better if he would do this aswell against CAT and it would also counter the attempt of JMK users to just wait with the CD reset for 1 turn because Maul could increase CDs again.
Examples:
vs JMK, CAT scenario #1 (JMK uses his CD reset immediately): LV AoE -> JMK CD reset on CAT -> Maul seething rage + CD increase on CAT (4 stacks of anguish left) -> Maul seething rage on GK (3 stacks left) -> Maul AoE (back to 5 stacks) -> ... battle goes on untill it's Mauls turn again -> Maul seething rage + CD increase again (4 stacks left) -> Maul seething spam on GK
vs JMK, CAT scenario #2 (JMK saves his CD reset): LV AoE -> JMK 1st special on himself -> Maul seething rage + CD increase on CAT (4 stacks of anguish left) -> Maul seething rage on GK (3 stacks left) -> Maul AoE (back to 5 stacks) -> ... battle goes on untill it's JMKs turn again -> JMK CD reset on CAT -> Maul seething rage + CD increase on CAT again (4 stacks left) -> Maul seething spam on GK
Other flawed AI's:
Piett - not using his mark on LV first but instead starting off with his AoE
DV - using his AoE first instead of going straight into MM and not only get several turns and feeding LV with underestimated stacks but also not spreading out those ability blocks
Bug / can't be WAI:
LV decreasing his mastery when activating his ult because an opponents SLKR has siphoned LV's allies' mastery into negatives
Things that I wish would be changed/fixed to increase Vaders defensive viability (right now even a JML with mostly "leftover" jedi can 1 shot a full R9 LV - and keep in mind that R9 is a huge boost to all those tank chars surrounding LV - as could be seen on Xaereths stream yesterday where he technically 1 shot a full R9 LV team with JML, KAM, GMY, Shaak and Jolee if he would've used Jolees revive at the end):
1) AI fixes (see above)
2) a buff to his ultimate - several things that could be used here: increase duration on that locked ability block, reduce duration of his ult stance so he can start charging up his next ult sooner, grant healing for the team, lots of buffs for the team (buffs = mastery = good), reduce cooldowns on his specials so he can use them more frequently, add undispellable buff and healing immunity to his AoE, protect his allies by putting a mark on him and stealth on all his allies, etc.
3) have RG also heal non-empire dark side characters, maybe by a lower percentage like 4% and with the condition that the allied leader must be an empire character
It may not help a huge amount but the dark side characters used with lv need their ai tweaked. Piett doesn't mark lord vader and darth vader doesn't use mm on their first turns, maul doesn't target cat. If all these happened then it would atleast make it harder to counter on defence then what it is atm.
Don't get me wrong I definitely think the AI needs tweaked on this, Piett should always mark LV so it calls him to assist, he can take the taunt he's beefy enough. DV not using MM is from the EP days, where using AoE first would fill his TM and then he would MM and use all of them, which makes sense on that team but not anymore. His AI should know which leader he has and adjust accordingly. Maul targeting CAT won't change much though because JMK can simply wait a turn to use his CD reduction and she can still get it off. But changing just the AI isn't gonna be enough here, LV needs kit tweaks as well because as I see it, you use his ult at 100% and you get an ability block immediately, then do nothing for 5 turns while you can't build more ult. 5 turns is a long time to do nothing
I agree lv kit does need tweaking mainly around his damage and ult. I'm just not a fan of how bad the ai is. Those 3 should be adjusted to fit in line with lv.
I know it's said it won't matter too much if maul increase cats cooldowns but if vader ability blocks jmk as well, it'll slow down the jmk squad and lv is all about lasting as long as possible. Id like to see the difference this makes before changing lv kit.
Edit: just read "legend91" post and he's summarised everything pretty well.
The thing is his ultimate, besides gaining mastery, is meant to make his move set better whereas Kenobi outright buffs himself with more offence, counters etc and he even reduces his speed which you’re happy for because you want him to stay in high ground for longer. It’s a fine alternate but the gain to his move set is pathetic, the basic hits for a third damage, woohoo 3x trash damage. His first special also hits for true damage, woohoo some more trash damage (I think this move should ramp up and hit really hard but oh well). The second special makes you ability blocked for 1 turn, woohoo, Nihilus does it better with his force drain via cooldown increase. His moves need to do more in ultimate instead of the snoozefest joke additions they do now. Why doesn’t one special increase LV’s stats and another buffs the team whilst the basic does something else unique.
Vindictive Strike in ult: no idea honestly
Dark Harbinger in ult: This attack also deals true damage, Buff Immunity and Healing Immunity cannot be cleansed and Lord Vader gains 1% Mastery (stacking) for each stack of Underestimated.
Unshackled Emotions in ult: Inflict Ability Block for 1 turn which can't be dispelled or resisted, increase target enemy's cooldowns by 2 and Dark Side ally Mastery gain is doubled.
- helps ramp up both Vader and his team a lot quicker while in ult which, in turn, makes each ult activation afterwards stronger with greater mastery gain. Simply takes it from a slow gain to a fast one.
It seems no matter what the comp is either for Lord Vader teams or JMK teams that Maul does not consistently increase CAT's cooldowns. Sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't. On the flip side, JMK always resets CAT's cooldowns to start the fight.
Is the LV/Maul AI working as intended? Or is something wrong?
1- he needs 5 stacks of anguish to activate the cooldown increase, 2 - it doesn't say anything about being unresistable. I suggest you stack potency.
I think hes refering to the fact that Maul doesnt consistently target CAT with the ability when he has 5 stacks. The CD increase is unresistable even though it doesnt say so in the kit (Nute is currently the only one with a resistable CD increase) and the resists are because of the buff immunity.
1- he needs 5 stacks of anguish to activate the cooldown increase, 2 - it doesn't say anything about being unresistable. I suggest you stack potency.
Each image Maul had 5 stacks of anguish, if its showing 4 thats bc I screenshotted from the video mid ability to show who was being targeted. sithlords already addressed the unresistable aspect of it.
It seems no matter what the comp is either for Lord Vader teams or JMK teams that Maul does not consistently increase CAT's cooldowns. Sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't. On the flip side, JMK always resets CAT's cooldowns to start the fight.
Is the LV/Maul AI working as intended? Or is something wrong?
As it stand right now, yes this is WAI. There is no hard coding for him to do that.
Still the worst GL to date. Huge investment, and easily countered. Now that kyno is confirming WAI, makes it that much worse. Spend your resources elsewhere unless you have nothing else to do.
Still the worst GL to date. Huge investment, and easily countered. Now that kyno is confirming WAI, makes it that much worse. Spend your resources elsewhere unless you have nothing else to do.
I am confirming that the AI is not hard coded to target CAT. It's not, and that doesnt seem to be a solution to anyone's problems.
Still the worst GL to date. Huge investment, and easily countered. Now that kyno is confirming WAI, makes it that much worse. Spend your resources elsewhere unless you have nothing else to do.
I am confirming that the AI is not hard coded to target CAT. It's not, and that doesnt seem to be a solution to anyone's problems.
Everyone knows it’s not coded that way. But you said WAI. Meaning it’s working as intended….walking that back?
Still the worst GL to date. Huge investment, and easily countered. Now that kyno is confirming WAI, makes it that much worse. Spend your resources elsewhere unless you have nothing else to do.
I am confirming that the AI is not hard coded to target CAT. It's not, and that doesnt seem to be a solution to anyone's problems.
Everyone knows it’s not coded that way. But you said WAI. Meaning it’s working as intended….walking that back?
Sorry, I misread what they were asking for WAI. Thought the discussion was targeting, not CD increase. Would need more than screen shots to being this up, but I can ask. The CD increase should be always there if Maul has 5 stacks
So youtube is blowing up with people beating LV + Maul with R7 and 8 JML, some even without GAS and JKL. Guess R9 JML was the real next meta all along.
Still the worst GL to date. Huge investment, and easily countered. Now that kyno is confirming WAI, makes it that much worse. Spend your resources elsewhere unless you have nothing else to do.
I am confirming that the AI is not hard coded to target CAT. It's not, and that doesnt seem to be a solution to anyone's problems.
Everyone knows it’s not coded that way. But you said WAI. Meaning it’s working as intended….walking that back?
Sorry, I misread what they were asking for WAI. Thought the discussion was targeting, not CD increase. Would need more than screen shots to being this up, but I can ask. The CD increase should be always there if Maul has 5 stacks
So the developers do not want maul targeting cat every time? Even though mk targets cat every time?
Still the worst GL to date. Huge investment, and easily countered. Now that kyno is confirming WAI, makes it that much worse. Spend your resources elsewhere unless you have nothing else to do.
I am confirming that the AI is not hard coded to target CAT. It's not, and that doesnt seem to be a solution to anyone's problems.
Everyone knows it’s not coded that way. But you said WAI. Meaning it’s working as intended….walking that back?
Sorry, I misread what they were asking for WAI. Thought the discussion was targeting, not CD increase. Would need more than screen shots to being this up, but I can ask. The CD increase should be always there if Maul has 5 stacks
So the developers do not want maul targeting cat every time? Even though mk targets cat every time?
Still the worst GL to date. Huge investment, and easily countered. Now that kyno is confirming WAI, makes it that much worse. Spend your resources elsewhere unless you have nothing else to do.
I am confirming that the AI is not hard coded to target CAT. It's not, and that doesnt seem to be a solution to anyone's problems.
Everyone knows it’s not coded that way. But you said WAI. Meaning it’s working as intended….walking that back?
Sorry, I misread what they were asking for WAI. Thought the discussion was targeting, not CD increase. Would need more than screen shots to being this up, but I can ask. The CD increase should be always there if Maul has 5 stacks
So the developers do not want maul targeting cat every time? Even though mk targets cat every time?
Maul uses his 5 attack once on CAT, once on GK, then Fervent Rush GK (36% charge)
LV's next turn is Harbinger to gain around 30% charge (66% charge)
Maul's next turn, you can use the 5 attack on CAT x1, GK x1 again, and another Fervent Rush (100% charge)
This puts buff immunity on GK and removes his taunt completely, allowing you to go after Snips who has the lowest H+P by far to trip the savior early. Darth Vader's second/third turn (I forget which, have only ran this strat twice tonight) is a Culling Blade that kills GK (should have 20+ debuffs) BEFORE JMK has the chance to ult.
The downside to this is that LV enters ult with only Harbinger off of cooldown - Unshackled still needs 1 more turn.
I don’t think Vader winning on offense is the issue.
Right now you have a mediocre to poor defensive team. A character who has little value in raids.
So effectively for the steepest requirements for a GL, and 2+ month wait for Maul, you have maybe the worst or 2nd worst GL?
Basically the investment does not equal the reward. I’m not saying this team shouldn’t lose to JMK, but I’m saying that the poor AI decision making, making it even easier for JMK to win, is dumb.
Thus if players have a choice as to which GL they want to farm too, I’m saying 100% avoid Lord Vader. Highest resource allocation for a tune that is basically great in TB’s and offense.
He can’t really under dog teams in GAC. He’s not great in raids. He’s not amazing on defense….
Maul uses his 5 attack once on CAT, once on GK, then Fervent Rush GK (36% charge)
LV's next turn is Harbinger to gain around 30% charge (66% charge)
Maul's next turn, you can use the 5 attack on CAT x1, GK x1 again, and another Fervent Rush (100% charge)
This puts buff immunity on GK and removes his taunt completely, allowing you to go after Snips who has the lowest H+P by far to trip the savior early. Darth Vader's second/third turn (I forget which, have only ran this strat twice tonight) is a Culling Blade that kills GK (should have 20+ debuffs) BEFORE JMK has the chance to ult.
The downside to this is that LV enters ult with only Harbinger off of cooldown - Unshackled still needs 1 more turn.
Yeah LV has his moments, but I think the issue is that Kenobi can just turn his brain off and still beat LV easily, whereas Vader needs specific strategies + a little bit of RNG to beat Kenobi before the timer runs out. If anything LV + Maul feels like a slightly better JML team. Hell, swap LVs ultimate for a slightly adjusted JML ult and hed be 10 times better.
Yeah LV has his moments, but I think the issue is that Kenobi can just turn his brain off and still beat LV easily, whereas Vader needs specific strategies + a little bit of RNG to beat Kenobi before the timer runs out. If anything LV + Maul feels like a slightly better JML team. Hell, swap LVs ultimate for a slightly adjusted JML ult and hed be 10 times better.
That would certainly be one improvement. What I would love to see is Ashes of the Republic turning all LV's debuffs into locked versions. Ulting first and popping off a mega Unshackled is amazing until JMK ults and just cleanses everyone.
Yeah LV has his moments, but I think the issue is that Kenobi can just turn his brain off and still beat LV easily, whereas Vader needs specific strategies + a little bit of RNG to beat Kenobi before the timer runs out. If anything LV + Maul feels like a slightly better JML team. Hell, swap LVs ultimate for a slightly adjusted JML ult and hed be 10 times better.
That would certainly be one improvement. What I would love to see is Ashes of the Republic turning all LV's debuffs into locked versions. Ulting first and popping off a mega Unshackled is amazing until JMK ults and just cleanses everyone.
Absolutely. Seeing that sea of dots just disappear hurts your soul
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probably not, because JMK can just wait an extra turn to use it and still get it off
Don't get me wrong I definitely think the AI needs tweaked on this, Piett should always mark LV so it calls him to assist, he can take the taunt he's beefy enough. DV not using MM is from the EP days, where using AoE first would fill his TM and then he would MM and use all of them, which makes sense on that team but not anymore. His AI should know which leader he has and adjust accordingly. Maul targeting CAT won't change much though because JMK can simply wait a turn to use his CD reduction and she can still get it off. But changing just the AI isn't gonna be enough here, LV needs kit tweaks as well because as I see it, you use his ult at 100% and you get an ability block immediately, then do nothing for 5 turns while you can't build more ult. 5 turns is a long time to do nothing
The AI is somewhat understandable. Darth Vader uses AOE before MM so that he could not be slotted in an SLKR team (at the time) for too much profit. Maul plays like a fool to give a view of a lax opponent. This is nothing new, the issue lies with the overall power level of LV.
A little bit more could be said about the dysfunctional nature of the team. For example, if LV was the only tank (like JML), and Royal Guard hid himself the team's act would look a lot more coherent. Maybe we are still missing a piece of the puzzle because this cannot be the final product, can it?
My Maul team (DV can be switched out for Shore):
Disclaimer: Everything below refers to the 5v5 format. I have no experience in regards to his 3v3 performance.
Pretty much only went up against JMK, CAT, GAS, AT, GK teams so far, some easier ones with R7 avg and some nearly fully maxed out ones with R8 across the board and mod sets like +190 on JMK (CD triangle, offense cross) and +165 on CAT (CD triangle and offense cross).
On offense he's fine and can actually full auto those JMK teams after the initial manual targeting on CAT for the cooldown increase (will come to that later). I gotta say though that before entering the 2nd or even 3rd ult, the fun factor isn't really there, mainly due to the lack of dmg in the team. LV hits like a wet noodle and Maul can't even trigger the savior on GK with full seething spam and burning all 5 stacks if the GK is propperly modded. As others have alrdy pointed out LV's ultimate is pretty lame. Sure, he upgrades himself, gets a bonus turn and does his nice locked ability block AoE (only 1 turn ability block though) but then you just hope for his ult state to end as soon as possible (unfortunately you have to endure 5 turns) - you actually feel uncomfortable while he's in his 1st ult. That's a serious design flaw, you should never feel bad and hope for it to end when your GL is in it's ult state.
On defense he sucks. But I see this mainly as a problem due to bad AI. Especially Maul doesn't act smart and not only uses his CD increase randomly but also doesn't set himself up for a follow up CD increase next turn - something that he does when he only starts on 3 stacks of anguish against non Kenobi teams. There he actually starts off with his AoE to get 5 stacks and wait for his frenzy to trigger and give him another turn to then use his CD increase. It would be so much better if he would do this aswell against CAT and it would also counter the attempt of JMK users to just wait with the CD reset for 1 turn because Maul could increase CDs again.
Examples:
vs JMK, CAT scenario #1 (JMK uses his CD reset immediately): LV AoE -> JMK CD reset on CAT -> Maul seething rage + CD increase on CAT (4 stacks of anguish left) -> Maul seething rage on GK (3 stacks left) -> Maul AoE (back to 5 stacks) -> ... battle goes on untill it's Mauls turn again -> Maul seething rage + CD increase again (4 stacks left) -> Maul seething spam on GK
vs JMK, CAT scenario #2 (JMK saves his CD reset): LV AoE -> JMK 1st special on himself -> Maul seething rage + CD increase on CAT (4 stacks of anguish left) -> Maul seething rage on GK (3 stacks left) -> Maul AoE (back to 5 stacks) -> ... battle goes on untill it's JMKs turn again -> JMK CD reset on CAT -> Maul seething rage + CD increase on CAT again (4 stacks left) -> Maul seething spam on GK
Other flawed AI's:
Piett - not using his mark on LV first but instead starting off with his AoE
DV - using his AoE first instead of going straight into MM and not only get several turns and feeding LV with underestimated stacks but also not spreading out those ability blocks
Bug / can't be WAI:
LV decreasing his mastery when activating his ult because an opponents SLKR has siphoned LV's allies' mastery into negatives
Things that I wish would be changed/fixed to increase Vaders defensive viability (right now even a JML with mostly "leftover" jedi can 1 shot a full R9 LV - and keep in mind that R9 is a huge boost to all those tank chars surrounding LV - as could be seen on Xaereths stream yesterday where he technically 1 shot a full R9 LV team with JML, KAM, GMY, Shaak and Jolee if he would've used Jolees revive at the end):
1) AI fixes (see above)
2) a buff to his ultimate - several things that could be used here: increase duration on that locked ability block, reduce duration of his ult stance so he can start charging up his next ult sooner, grant healing for the team, lots of buffs for the team (buffs = mastery = good), reduce cooldowns on his specials so he can use them more frequently, add undispellable buff and healing immunity to his AoE, protect his allies by putting a mark on him and stealth on all his allies, etc.
3) have RG also heal non-empire dark side characters, maybe by a lower percentage like 4% and with the condition that the allied leader must be an empire character
I agree lv kit does need tweaking mainly around his damage and ult. I'm just not a fan of how bad the ai is. Those 3 should be adjusted to fit in line with lv.
I know it's said it won't matter too much if maul increase cats cooldowns but if vader ability blocks jmk as well, it'll slow down the jmk squad and lv is all about lasting as long as possible. Id like to see the difference this makes before changing lv kit.
Edit: just read "legend91" post and he's summarised everything pretty well.
Vindictive Strike in ult: no idea honestly
Dark Harbinger in ult: This attack also deals true damage, Buff Immunity and Healing Immunity cannot be cleansed and Lord Vader gains 1% Mastery (stacking) for each stack of Underestimated.
Unshackled Emotions in ult: Inflict Ability Block for 1 turn which can't be dispelled or resisted, increase target enemy's cooldowns by 2 and Dark Side ally Mastery gain is doubled.
- helps ramp up both Vader and his team a lot quicker while in ult which, in turn, makes each ult activation afterwards stronger with greater mastery gain. Simply takes it from a slow gain to a fast one.
Is the LV/Maul AI working as intended? Or is something wrong?
I think hes refering to the fact that Maul doesnt consistently target CAT with the ability when he has 5 stacks. The CD increase is unresistable even though it doesnt say so in the kit (Nute is currently the only one with a resistable CD increase) and the resists are because of the buff immunity.
As it stand right now, yes this is WAI. There is no hard coding for him to do that.
I am confirming that the AI is not hard coded to target CAT. It's not, and that doesnt seem to be a solution to anyone's problems.
Everyone knows it’s not coded that way. But you said WAI. Meaning it’s working as intended….walking that back?
Sorry, I misread what they were asking for WAI. Thought the discussion was targeting, not CD increase. Would need more than screen shots to being this up, but I can ask. The CD increase should be always there if Maul has 5 stacks
So the developers do not want maul targeting cat every time? Even though mk targets cat every time?
Not that I am aware of.
It would make autoing LV too hard
This puts buff immunity on GK and removes his taunt completely, allowing you to go after Snips who has the lowest H+P by far to trip the savior early. Darth Vader's second/third turn (I forget which, have only ran this strat twice tonight) is a Culling Blade that kills GK (should have 20+ debuffs) BEFORE JMK has the chance to ult.
The downside to this is that LV enters ult with only Harbinger off of cooldown - Unshackled still needs 1 more turn.
Right now you have a mediocre to poor defensive team. A character who has little value in raids.
So effectively for the steepest requirements for a GL, and 2+ month wait for Maul, you have maybe the worst or 2nd worst GL?
Basically the investment does not equal the reward. I’m not saying this team shouldn’t lose to JMK, but I’m saying that the poor AI decision making, making it even easier for JMK to win, is dumb.
Thus if players have a choice as to which GL they want to farm too, I’m saying 100% avoid Lord Vader. Highest resource allocation for a tune that is basically great in TB’s and offense.
He can’t really under dog teams in GAC. He’s not great in raids. He’s not amazing on defense….
Yeah LV has his moments, but I think the issue is that Kenobi can just turn his brain off and still beat LV easily, whereas Vader needs specific strategies + a little bit of RNG to beat Kenobi before the timer runs out. If anything LV + Maul feels like a slightly better JML team. Hell, swap LVs ultimate for a slightly adjusted JML ult and hed be 10 times better.
That would certainly be one improvement. What I would love to see is Ashes of the Republic turning all LV's debuffs into locked versions. Ulting first and popping off a mega Unshackled is amazing until JMK ults and just cleanses everyone.
Absolutely. Seeing that sea of dots just disappear hurts your soul
Sadly I think they will give us the SEE-treatment.
It’s 50/50 tbh
CG made SEE garbage but made SLKR op in their respective times