Oh yes. this is what you think it is. after lot of people whine about sidious OP (!??!!??!!?!?!?!?!?!) and nerf him, this thread is whining about... Sidious too weak, Buff him.
I know, im a sidious' fanboy, but hear me out
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sidious is gonna be a toon that lot of us have at 7* maxed gear, but won't be used. its a great mid game toon, obviously, but in end game it become nothing. imagine what will happen after the update -
1) more tanks: Sidious cant land on 50% tenacity tanks like poe rg and han any of his debuffs.
2) Advantage is now crit - so why would anyone use Sid leader ?phasma is better and boba leader with phasma is better.
3) Yodas - a favorite toon on everybody, is gonna flood us more than QGJ... his tencaity will make sidious a disadvantage, since he sid will always give people turn meter. that's how an Anti-Jedi toon become a... Pro-Jedi (??)
So. what we got ? we have the EMPEROR OF THE FREAKING GALAXY as a toon with useless basic atc (low damage, no healing immune), with a useless special (no damage, not much dots), useless leader abi (free crit from phasma), and one great unique. this is not remotely enough for Darth Sidious. he supposed to be ANTI JEDI, and he surely dont feel like one.. he suppose to be strong.. but dont make me laugh -.- Sidious Potency is A HUGE problem, he have to get a buff on potency / change his abilities, or we have another ugnaught.
Pictures of level 70 Sidious, 7*, gear 8, doing nothing to jedi team protected by jedi valor:
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that resist tho.
and video of sidious - fastest toon in the match, make his team do 4v5. level 72 sid, 7*, gear 8.
![KKkqQod.jpg](http://i.imgur.com/KKkqQod.jpg)
this is the team, the video going too fast.
https://youtu.be/8Fr8GXL7OHI
i know its gw and its nothing, but the important thing is Sidious unable to do anything vs 4 jedis team. this is NOT anti jedi, his speed is useless, his basic useless, special useless, leader abi gonna be useless.
Sidious need Buff.
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I agree his damage and health are lackluster but if they were much higher he'd be OP.
I think a fair measure for who needs a buff would be lack of play time. Considering i play against approximately 10 Sid's per day in GW / Arena, I'd say he's well balanced.
nextime i see Sid with dooku, i put jedi team. and his speed dont matter if he not tanky and not doing damage, what the hell can he do ?
Sid is must have in Aoe teams.
Sid is average in dodge teams.
Sid is very good in GW.
Verdict : Sid is balanced. Leave him alone.
I dont understand what you're trying to say.
AoE teams is nothing in current meta.
Sid is gonna be useless for GW too, and hes good for his own also, have nothing beneficial for team or any synergy. no way that sidious have so many counters to make him nothing.
he got no damage, he got no hp, and now, he got no potency mean he got nothing to offer.
from tanks like RG, Han, poe - that disables him completely, and getting no damage from him, through attackers like rey/gs/qgj (probably)/fotp/ig86/ig88/leia/RP/Biggs - that in the same level/gear of him REMOVING HIM in 1 shot. ... removing in 1 hit, and also jedis like aayla, yoda, barris, that as leaders counter the "anti-jedi" lol. and i dont even talk about how weak he is vs counter team.
for you, @Usho . video of sidious with dooku lead doing nothing vs jedi team -.-
what im trying to say, is that when i see sid with dooku - i did, video in previous reply - i will fight.
and you said he got nice speed. all this speed dont matter at all, if he cant do something with that speed. he atc second or first most of times, doing 0 dmg, inflict 0 debuffs. so let him atc, let him be fast, let him use the speed.
This is not the sid you used to from mid-game, when you can win 3v1 vs Jedis. in lategame sid is HORRIBLE, and most toons in game perform better than him. try put a "weak" toon in lvl 70 Max gear 7*, you'll see.
It's a video of someone winning vs AI, something that 99% of people do in offence...It doesn't prove anything. Even ewoks can defeat meta teams in offence. If i were to go against this jedi team with my Dooku and Sid, it would be so laughable. GQJ is the only threat and the only serious dps. Other than that, no threats. Dooku can stun him easily, force him to lose a turn and then game is over. Also Sid's heal debuff would make Lumi and JC waste turns trying to heal. I don't think there is anyone with Sid/Dooku that can lose vs jedi team AI.
+1 leave Sid alone he's fine the way he is
99% winrate for all people ? thats new. nice. i dont think im even close to 90% winrate. I guess im a freaking noob, probably place 6321 in arena.
it does prove, that sid doing no damage, can be ignored, have no hp, have no sustain, and depends TOTALLY ON HIS EVASION. is that a balanced toon ? my laughable team beated Sid led by dooku, which @Usho said "JEDI CANT EVEN HIT". **** i wasted a fight for this video. I put barris and aayla with 5* for that, and you wanna tell me that sidious, the anti jedi, combined with dooku that is also anti jedi, can't kill even 1 toon in a full jedi team??? sidious is a joke. Put ANY attacker instead of him with the gear he have and stars he have, and you'll see how the team power jumps to the sky. he's bad attacker.
@Usho make up your mind. now you call bad RNG, gaining Offup isn't fair ? what the ... i'll tell you wahts not fair: Rey getting offUp from Poggle and led by poe. thats not fair. offup on a freaking barris and aayla LOL
sid maybe "fine" in gw (meh) but in arena he's useless once you enter the top100. there are not much toons i can say this. unused toons. Name more than 2 attackers who's worse than sid.
give any attacker 72 lvls, 7* and gear 8, you'll see oneshots. sid cant drop some1 below 50%.
and all of this is gonna be worse when his leader abi will be useless.
You missing the point guys. You think sid is good since he can survive some useless fights in GW ? my MAXED sidious have 9650 HP (!!!!) you know how squishy that is ? FOTP for example, got 10700, and he's like.. the squishiest.... oh. the difference : FOTP oneshots most toons, Sidious cant kill FOTP with single atc.
0 potency rofl
now you guys say everyone winning on offense (ROFL) and its easy match even with jedi team.
Ok blame RNG also, sure.
please comment when you have serious arguments.
Sidious is bad offensively and defensively.
I'd prefer they work on bringing up other characters so we see less of him.
#downwithSidclones
Lore is not a valid reason to buff or need a character. Although in this game just like the movies he is very effective early, as you approach max level he weakens and needs some help and eventually is useless getting tossed out down a shaft.
QGJ, RP, FOTP, Lumi, Rey, IG86, IG88, Phasma, Royal Guard, Barris, Poe, Han, Obi wan kenobi, Dooku, GS, Leia, Yoda. all the known toons that probably all agree that are better.
HTS, Datcha, Luke, Biggs, Ewok scout , RT, Vader - toons that if you'll bring to Sidious level gear and stars - 7*, 70+, gear 8, you'll see How much stronger than sid.
and there are much more worse toons than sid i agree obviously, but this is more annoying than making Mace windu weak - since all invested in him so much. if it was like the movies, he was the freaking best, tricking anakin to the dark side, beating yoda...
i dont want him to be best, i want him to be playable! do damage, or be tanky, or DO put DoT/healing immune. but right now he nothing, and after update, he gonna disappear i believe.
the potency fix made him very very weak, and unplayable for me, and if they fix some other things: Like barris Unique that i never see that work, and Old ben leader abi, you'll have more jedis that actually make sid nothing. something need to be changed about sidious imo.
@Mofojokers1992 lol.
Edit: yes gaining offense up is not fair if you're testing PURE DAMAGE !
and no one asked you to prove anything and "waste" a match for the vid.
and i didnt test pure damage rofl, i tested Sidious vs jedi. combined with dooku and all 5 jedis alive. not much of an anti-jedi. with my normal team i would kill him as last, since he have no threat. and in my normal team i have 3 toons to remove him with 1shot. he's horrible in defense, and poor offensively. So attacker with no damage, no survivability, and you the one that claim he depend on RNG. you still think he's viable ? save me your response, im not gonna bother read even.
And autoheal/turnmeter
Really?
I have only faced him in 4 of 5 arena matches and 12 of 12 arena matches today.
Yesterday was a combined 17 of 17 matches.
There is a definite trend downward of Sid usage....lolololol
Down with sid!!!
You're right: Sidious has been pushed out of the top rank teams largely because of Dooku's leadership ability and the rise of other DPS toons (Rey, GS, FOTP...). However, calling for a buff in time for the new update is a bit premature. No-one knows for sure what toons will be the new meta when fortitude and other changes occur. Probably not even the devs ^_^
Please come back when you get to even top 100... Right now, not to be mean, but you are a noob. Your opinion is not based on experience.
He never beat Yoda, a 900 year old Yoda left the fight before it could be dicided.
And mace had him to his shatterpoint before Anakin betrayed Mace.
So if Sid is made stronger, then Mace needs to be made better than Sid.
@thecuriousocelot it may be bit premature, but at the moment, i feel "deceived". i threw on my beloved sidious everything he needed, and while other toons leveling and gearing up is getting MUCH MUCH stronger, sid is only getting a bit stronger each time you upgrade him. and when the potency was fixed, he became total useless. if i'd knew that this is how 0% potency is like, i wouldn't upgrade him. -.-
sidious stayed up wayy wayy behind, and i expect as Anti-jedi to perform much better vs jedis. and from sidious, to perform much better generally. he's dropped even from my GW team due to his poor damage.
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noob sidiousispikachu, playing on that noob server that cant handle a defensive team !
.... -.-