Worth going for SEE after Leviathan?
September 9, 2023 11:27AM
edited September 2023
Looking for advice.
I'm wrapping up on Leviathan's requirements (second GL ship, after exec). Already have 3 GLs: Kylo, Kenobi, Luke. Slowly farming Cal Kestis's requirements.
After my last requirement for Levi, 50RT, I probably want to bring up Marauder to R7 to have an effective Leviathan (as I believe I won't last long unless I have her at high relics). After that I would only need to relic Tarkin, Dooku, Royal Guard, Krennic, and Sidious, and bump up JKA and Thrawn a bit, and I'd be done with the SEE reqs. Should I do that, or go for a more useful GL like Jabba? Thoughts?
https://swgoh.gg/p/975918932/gl-gear-needed/
I'm wrapping up on Leviathan's requirements (second GL ship, after exec). Already have 3 GLs: Kylo, Kenobi, Luke. Slowly farming Cal Kestis's requirements.
After my last requirement for Levi, 50RT, I probably want to bring up Marauder to R7 to have an effective Leviathan (as I believe I won't last long unless I have her at high relics). After that I would only need to relic Tarkin, Dooku, Royal Guard, Krennic, and Sidious, and bump up JKA and Thrawn a bit, and I'd be done with the SEE reqs. Should I do that, or go for a more useful GL like Jabba? Thoughts?
https://swgoh.gg/p/975918932/gl-gear-needed/
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SEE is arguably the worst GL. He does next to nothing for you in PVE and isn't that great in PVP vs other GLs. His main attraction is ease of acquisition.
Jabba is a far superior investment, being valuable in both PVE and PVP and having the added bonus of his own mod slicing mat event. Krayt raid may well be gone by the time you acquire him but that really doesn't diminish his value and you can gain benefit from using his Hutt Cartel requirements in the raid.
I would look at how long it's going to take to acquire Jabba vs SEE and if the difference isn't too great - like 6 months vs 3 months - I would favor Jabba.
That being said, there are better GL's, but I'd say look at efficiency. If you're close to SEE, go after him since one more GL is always a good thing!
I use SEE almost daily in Conquest, some Galactic Challenges, and ROTE.
Going for SEE is always the best option!
Jabba can’t Solo a team!
SEE can Solo a team!
SEE is All Sith, All the Time!
A Seven Nation Army can’t hold SEE back!
Hard disagree, lol
But if OP is close, go for it.
I’d personally go for Jabba
see isn’t all sith, and he’s def not the best.
Meanwhile, SEE is still going to be the greatest alive.
SEE will be completely un-phased.
Number 1 in the game and Number 1 in our hearts!
I would show the stats of SEE to prove to you he is amazing, but I don’t think I need too.
The OP owns 3 GL’s already.
He knows what SEE is bringing to the table.
SEE is a 1 man wrecking machine.
Someone is going to read this and think you're serious.
Why shouldn’t people take what I’m saying Serious?
Everyone is free to have there perspective.
The game did announce something is happening to the Krayt Dragon Raid.
The game did announce the Night sisters are under investigation because people been using them against Jabba.
SEE isn’t under any such clouds of uncertainty.
SEE is easier to acquire.
SEE doesn’t require a team to function.
SEE can usually Solo or at most take few side characters.
It is 100% possible for a person to believe SEE is better vs. Jabba.
Pro’s & Con’s
A- Because you are new to the game and don't own, have never used and haven't even faced the character you are touting.
B- Because some of us, who have been playing for years, know better.
Everyone is indeed entitled to their perspective, but if they want people to take them seriously, their perspective should be grounded in reality.
The problem that I have with your position is that SEE doesn't allow you to do anything at all that you can't already do without him. Jabba has special missions in TB and a special event that requires him that gives you tons of free stuff. He's also one of the best defensive GLs out there and beats nearly everything on offense.
If your argument is that it's better to go for a GL you're close to - I'd agree with that, but it would heavily depend on how close is "close". If you need three or four characters to finish off the farm, then yeah - get it knocked out. Otherwise, almost any other farm is better with Jabba sitting squarely on the top of the list.
I'm farming SEE right now because I need something to farm while waiting for Leia. I have 5 GLs currently and can honestly say that I've never once said to myself, "dang it, I wish I had SEE so I could do this thing that I can't do because I don't have him..."
You're free to like whatever character you like - but farming what you like isn't always the best choice for the strength of your roster. You love SEE - that's awesome - in the realm of GLs he's considered by many to be the weakest - and for good reasons. He's still a GL - which by definition means he's going to perform well in a lot of scenarios. It's not BAD to farm SEE - but it's a poor choice to prioritize him over other GLs that will move your roster forward in more meaningful ways.
Being a Beginner isn’t a Liability, It has its advantages.
A - I have a fresh passionate perspective.
Veteran players can acquire a bitterness perspective in grinding games due to being burn out or worn down by game.
The joy of game turns into an annoying chore which they often refuse to quit due to investing a lot of time or money.
The result is they soldier on with a bitterness and resentment towards the game.
Than they spew bile negative towards others.
I have seen it many times in games like this.
B - I am unbiased & don’t have preconceived notions about characters
Veteran players can acquire biases about characters due to the Business Nature of games like this.
For example:
The game will create a powerful character enticing players to spend to get character fast.
Than the players will get the character and it will dominate for a period of time.
Afterward, the game creates a Nerf/Balance adjustment to the dominate character.
They do this Nerf/Balance adjustment in preparation for the next character the game wants players to chase.
After receiving the Nerf/Balance adjustment, Veteran players start freaking out.
OMG - The character is trash, unusable, etc..
This is how the biases and preconceived notions happen.
The Veteran player played the character at a certain time.
Than the game tone down character.
A beginner who acquires the character will not know how the character was before the adjustment.
To them, the character could still be very good.
BUT to the Veteran player the character will for ever be a shell of itself.
They will hold that grudge.
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Lastly, you say my perspective of SEE should be grounded in reality.
BUT is my SEE perspective really far fetched?
Lets just say for a moment you are 100% right.
Lets just say for a moment SEE is the worst Galactic Legend in the game.
Okay, but my question to you is how many characters are in the game?
300? 400?
You know Anish Giri was ranked #8 in the World of Chess not that long ago.
Against Ranks 1-7, Players would say Anish Giri is the underdog.
They might even say he is the worst.
BUT Against Ranks 9-500, Players would say Anish Giri is the favorite.
They might even say Anish Giri is a total monster.
A Positional Chess God!
Now if a Chess Beginner was to run up and say Anish Giri is amazing #1 in the game and #1 in our hearts.
Would that Chess Beginner be out of touch with reality?
No, because Anish Giri is still among the best.
Similarly, SEE is still among the best.
SEE can put a beat down on wide range of characters and he can often do it Solo.
If the OP wants to go for SEE, I say let him go for it.
Why not?
2- Yes, your perspective on SEE is far fetched, you proved it with your own analogy. If a chess player is ranked 8th, that's because there are 7 other chess players better than them, so saying they are #1 in chess (or in your case, #1 in the game) is categorically false. Yes, SEE is good, in fact I think he is underrated, but he is still the least effective of all the GL's, and I can say that because I have him and 4 others and have faced them all.
3- The OP doesn't "want" to go for SEE, they asked if they should.
“Among the best” is a far cry from “the best”, which is what you claimed earlier.
And nobody is stopping OP going for SEE. The issue some of us have in this thread is a 5 week player offering ill-founded advice then claiming that this advice is better than the advice of veteran players simply because he’s not a veteran player.
Jabba > all, thanks to Smuggler’s run 2 alone
The only argument for chasing See first in your case would be if you need a good chunk of time to get the shards needed for Jabba’s prerequisites and if you’re able to get the gear needed to relic them and see’s prerequisites during this time.
The OP of the thread owns 3 GL’s.
The OP of the thread is asking advice if he should go for SEE.
I tell the OP to go for SEE.
People respond to me by saying I’m a 5 week old beginner giving bad advice. Lol
A 4th GL on the OP account is a good thing.
It’s not bad advice.
Also, I’m not shifting goal posts.
If you are among the best, you would still be considered the best.
Only the “best” can be among the “best”.
Lets just be honest here
I am sensing a lot of SEE Hatred on this thread.
We need to stop the Sith on Sith hatred.
It’s obvious to me that this thread is filled with Players that drank the Jabba Juice.
It’s the OP decision.
The OP makes final call.
I have already stated why he should go for SEE.
I think Lorddirt might be on to something.
If the OP doesn’t want SEE, Rey might be alternative.
I don’t think the requirements are that far away
That sounds like shifting goal posts to me. In one post he is “the greatest GL”, and now you’re claiming he’s “among the best”.
Well, we agree on something at least.
1. Farm SEE for no other reason than "he's my favorite" - which is fine - whatever.
2. Give bad advice based on, "he's my favorite" - which is not fine - don't do that.
3. Hit the Enter key after typing a period.
Paragraphs my dude - they're a thing.
GL's are hard to come by, they take lots of resources to farm.
I have 5 and am on the cusp of my 6th, I should know.
The advice you are giving is just biased and not based in reality.
GL's are great, of course adding another is not a bad thing, that wasn't the question.
Understanding the game takes time, more than 5 weeks, you will learn as you play.
Drank the Jabba juice? He is a great GL with a fantastic resource event and his own TB mission.
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However SEE should really be a “triple farm”
—> Executor, SEE and a relic IT team = lots of overlapping requirements & as a triad will definitely strengthen a roster. I did all 3 as a combined farm, throwing in Range Trooper at the time to get my IT team.
If I started again — I’d be doing SLKR and FO fleet, “SEE/Exec/IT” triad second then Jabba.
Not only is SEE amazing, but Shadow scream has given even more reasons as to why people should go after SEE.
Going for SEE is like going for the Traid of Ultimate Account Progression.
PREACH, SHADOW SCREAM
PREACH!
It’s remarkable because I am planning to have SEE as my first GL.
Everything Shadow is saying is 100% correct.
SEE requires Thrawn & Palpatine
My first team I been working on is Phoenix who can unlock both requirements.
My first fleet is Rebel Home One fleet using Phoenix ships with Bigs + Wedge.
The addition of Captain Rex has made Phoenix end game viable.
There are several YouTubers showing Phoenix beating different GL’s.
I have reached rank 400 in Squad Arena with my Phoenix with only gear 8 & not all of members are 7 Star.
I have reached rank 28 in Fleet Arena with my Home One - Phoenix Fleet.
The next set of requirements needed for SEE:
- Vader
- Royal Guard
- Tarkin
Combine the above with Palpatine + Thrawn and that’s very good second Empire team.
It also can make a very good second Empire Fleet.
The next set of requirements needed for SEE:
- Veers
- Admiral Piett
- Colonel Stark
I think all I need to do is add in Dark Trooper + Ranger Trooper to make Imperial Trooper set up.
That will give me a very good 3rd team.
At that point, The only team I will be missing to bring everything together is a Bounty Hunter team.
- BossK
- Boba Fett
- Cad Bane
- IG 88
- Dengar
The Bounty Hunters should help me with credit event.
The Bounty Hunters should help me get Chewbacca
The Bounty Hunters should help me get Han’s Million Falcon
I can use Han’s M. Falcon with my beginner Home One Rebel Fleet till I get Profundity.
The Bounty Hunters + there Ships + SEE requirements above should help me get Executor.
I should end up with 3 Fleets:
- Home One with Rebel Fleet with Phoenix + Han’s Falcon
- Executrix with Empire Fleet
- Executor with Bounty Hunter Fleet
I should end up with 4 Ground teams:
- Phoenix team
- Palpatine team
- Imperial Trooper team
- Bounty Hunter team
At that point, I should be knocking on SEE door with only handful of requirements left.
- Count Dooku
Maybe, He could be good with Nute Gunray + 3 Geo’s?
Could make a Separatist team + Separatist Fleet.
Yeah, I don’t know
I think Shadow might be right.
He said to go for SLKR as first GL. So 50% correct ?