Omicrons on all new characters
Correct me if I'm wrong, will admit it, but I thought the omicron was introduced to bring relevance to old characters that we weren't using as much, get more functionality out of our complete roster?
I felt like that idea was pitched, they rolled it out on a few old toons, then they went right into throwing Omis on every new toon that joins the game. I get that this is a resource management game, but how about just not locking every new toon behind 2-3 omicrons? Zetas as normal? The omicron drop rate is pretty trash, so it makes a decision who and what to throw an omi on, but I didn't think we'd be so lazy in designing new toons that we're just throwing it on them too.
I felt like that idea was pitched, they rolled it out on a few old toons, then they went right into throwing Omis on every new toon that joins the game. I get that this is a resource management game, but how about just not locking every new toon behind 2-3 omicrons? Zetas as normal? The omicron drop rate is pretty trash, so it makes a decision who and what to throw an omi on, but I didn't think we'd be so lazy in designing new toons that we're just throwing it on them too.
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They didn't.
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/250664/road-ahead-october-2021
Looks to me like it was planned for both old and new.
CG never said that, but I'm agree with you.
Besides, too much omicrons for grand aranes on new toons.
Like Taron Malicos, my roster already got fully omicrons teams, and I think most of us won't always change the defense teams. If I omicrin him that was a waste. They should put that omicrons on TW.
Which of us is right?
I think TW is a waste.
Yeah, you're right, typical CG wording made me think it was just for existing characters to make them useful, but it was the whole addition of "Mode Specific Abilities" that they just introduced for current and upcoming (that part I missed).
It seems to me though that all new characters have a mode-specific ability, and without it, they're just not that good.
Yeah I think the whole omi thing is garbage, along with DC
I used to be on the fence about Conquest but have come around in the last few months despite the **** they pulled last Conquest.
No, that's not at all what they are.
Find a better way to express that thought.
TW omicrons are pointless. Me adding the new moff Gideon omicrons when he is unlocked alone won't make our guild win TWs.
Me adding omicrons to malicos may result in me winning more GACs.
They're not.
I think the issue with TW omicrons is that for them to be really effective you need significant buy-in from everyone in the guild. If everyone agrees, "We're all applying the omicrons on X character." - that collective effort can absolutely win a TW. But if it's hand-fulls here and there the effect is much less pronounced.
I don't think all omicrons should cost the same. Players get a different benefit from all of them. Raid omicrons for instance should be much cheaper given their baked-in expiration date. TB/TW omicrons should be cheaper as well, to make them an easier sell for guilds that can benefit from them. GAC omis are by far the most valuable to the individual player and they retain their value regardless of what your guilds priorities are or if you happen to switch guilds. Stands to reason that those should be costly. Conquest omicrons? Double or triple the price and make them I-win mechanics. Either that or remove them completely.
Sure - but isn't that a lot like saying "get rid of datacrons" - I agree that the mode specific stuff is non-sense but CG has done what they've done and we've got what we got. They're not going to walk back either of those choices (mode specific abilities or datacrons). They've changed abililty material costs before though so I think it's a more approachable solution.
So, is it how it’s intended to work?
I mean, I wouldn’t mind applying TW/TB/raid omis, but if I know that I always will be short on them, and those omis will have very little impact compared to GAC ones, then the decision is simple for me.
Oh, and before someone tells me to git gud, just clarify that I don’t have any problem with omis right now, I’ll in the near future for sure. But I was just explaining my own situation and point of view.
I think part of a players perspective on omis depends on the stage they’re at in the game. I’m happy to invest in TW/TB omis because I can see our guild performing at a top level in those modes and improving with more omis. On the other hand, I’m about topped out in GAC in K3. I can’t believe I’d be able to move up to K2 without monetary investment, and am happy with that, so more GAC omis won’t do anything for me too.
Also have no idea how TW last bracket looks like. I thought that many TW omis were not used up there because they become weak when you can do GL walls.
Certain ones are weak, sure, but some are vital.
TW omis can turn walls into nearly the equivalent of GL walls.
Not the same for other players I’m sure, but yes, that’s my experience anyway.
I'm curious; which ones would you deem vital
In my experience pogglecrons do have a place on defence, oPhasma less so. There’s too many easy counters so more useful on offence, where they are still useful.
No need. Pretty much every conquest unit is used in multiple modes, not only the 1 for which it's omicrons are designed. Even for DBB there are use cases for GAC (Tuskens or Bossk & Mando in 3v3) and TB (BH mission in ROTE).
I didn't say get rid of omicron, I said get rid of mode specific.
They could make them PvP/PvE or all modes going forward. It is already in game, they just don't use them
"OmicronMode": { "OmicronMode_DEFAULT": 0, "ALLOMICRON": 1, "PVEOMICRON": 2, "PVPOMICRON": 3, "GUILDRAIDOMICRON": 4, "TERRITORYSTRIKEOMICRON": 5, "TERRITORYCOVERTOMICRON": 6, "TERRITORYBATTLEBOTHOMICRON": 7, "TERRITORYWAROMICRON": 8, "TERRITORYTOURNAMENTOMICRON": 9, "WAROMICRON": 10, "CONQUESTOMICRON": 11, "GALACTICCHALLENGEOMICRON": 12, "PVEEVENTOMICRON": 13, "TERRITORYTOURNAMENT3OMICRON": 14, "TERRITORYTOURNAMENT5OMICRON": 15, "GALACTICCHALLENGE3OMICRON": 16, "GALACTICCHALLENGE5OMICRON": 17 }You mean get rid of the mode specific part of new omicrons moving forward? Yeah, I'd be all for that - I was assuming you meant erase the mode restrictions on existing omicrons - which you didn't say, but it's how I took your meaning - my fault.