Andor Characters
November 18, 2023 12:01PM
edited November 2023
One year from the very good Andor serie, can we hope to see characters from the show in swgoh ? I don't kwow if it was a subject before.
Luthen Rael and his ship could be an interesting adding, and an alternative in Mon mothma team or in a totally new Pre-Rebel squad.
what are your thought on this ?
I just thought, an andor squad could be use for a new event, the Aldhani heist, where you could gain credits.
Luthen Rael and his ship could be an interesting adding, and an alternative in Mon mothma team or in a totally new Pre-Rebel squad.
what are your thought on this ?
I just thought, an andor squad could be use for a new event, the Aldhani heist, where you could gain credits.
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Opposite problem for the main character. Andor is essentially the same person from start to finish, except the Empire finally beat him down enough for him to go rogue, as if losing his father before the series’ events wasn’t enough motivation.
Andor also lacked any meaningful decision-making in his story. I guess he just forgot about searching for his missing sister after e1. Writers should have given him a choice to make, either saving Bix at the cost of the nascent rebellion, or sacrifice her for the cause. He basically got both and was a non-factor at the climax of S1.
Lastly, the pacing was absolutely atrocious. When a significant portion of your viewers refuse to keep watching because they keep falling asleep, and going to movie aggregate websites leaving that feedback… do better.
Hopefully, CG has better inspiration for new toons than this group of snoozefest characters.
I’d love to see some andor characters in the game. If not, wouldn’t make the list of disappointments lately anyways 😂
That's a spicy take. I think Andor just appealed more to a different sub-set of the fanbase than some of the other shows. I thought it was OK. I honestly didn't spend any time evaluating any of the points you brought up - but I don't look to star wars for gripping, nuanced story telling - the franchise has never excelled at that in my opinion. There are much better places to go if I want that kind of fix. It was entertaining and a very different feel from more traditional Star Wars fare and that was refreshing.
I think we need to see Luthen and his ship in the game - that part was too well played and the character too charismatic and appealing to leave that on the table. Most of the other characters though - I could take them or leave them.
Andor had more character development for background characters with <2 minutes of screen time, than the entire sequel trilogy had for its main characters, what the heck are you on about? LOL
Atrocious take.
Care to point out these developed characters with 2 minutes of screen time? Or do you consider cliches and plot devices as fully developed characters? Because Andor has a ton of those.
Movies are art, everyone has different expression and takes on art. Not everyone feels the same way. I could say the OG and the prequels which are my favorite are full of clichés and tropes which they are but what TV show or Movie doesn't contain that nowadays. Almost everything has a become a trope so it's hard to not go down that path even if you didnt want to in your art.
Edit: I wouldn't mind Andor toons, the more the merry.
Don’t think we need any characters from the show yet. As was stated by another poster above, most people don’t even remember the characters names. Luthan and Keno were the most interesting but I don’t think they translate well into Holo-table heroes. We might want Luthan in the game after we see where his character goes in season 2.
I want Deedra. We need another Imperial Trooper to have 3 Teams with the new conquest Moff Gideon forming a Remnant Team.
The other shows or the ST are rightly ridiculed, they don’t need my help. But Andor is so overrated, I can’t stay quiet about it. Every time I bring up my issues from above, no Andor fan ever responds with a good counterargument. They deflect and ignore, like all of you are doing.
Something for both sides of fandom to consider, but you can just say that Andor wasn't for you. You can state your opinion on how you didn't like the pacing or forgettable characters.
As soon as you state that it's bad, it often just starts an argument.
1. The concept - showing the Star Wars universe principally from the perspective of the lives of ordinary people - was a good one that carried through well
2. The acting - consistently good with some really stand out performances
3. The plot - despite Cassian’s plot armour (unavoidable) there was sufficient challenge and jeopardy to present a series of engaging stories
4. The moral ambiguity- unlike most SW offerings, Andor did more to blur the lines between dark and light - giving sympathetic moments to imperial officers or presenting terrorism as a ‘good’ action in response to oppression- and giving its protagonists more morally complex motivations- it was a grown up show in that respect
5. Stand out moments that didn’t rely on CGI - the production was properly dramatic and not just a cartoon being levered into a live action context
Now - you don’t have to like any of that and it’s great if you prefer Mandalorian or Bad Batch - but to say it’s not good is just inaccurate.
Love the concept of plot armour, never heard that phrase before. FWIW, I’d love to see Luthen and his ship even if only so there’s more ships in the game.
Great reference, but surely it needs to be under a spoiler 🤣
I try to point out that we don't have any character from that show to play with. Fan or not fan, as said above, the more toons the merrier.
Luthen will have a devellopement in S2 i hope, and it will be great to have him in SWGOH.
The only inspiration they seem to have is for their bottom lines…
My bad! I know - 42 years is just not long enough
What they do is like background work to me, like platoon chars in TB.
I simply disagree on all fronts. I could go through each point and say why I disagree but what's the point? It's very unlikely I would change your opinion and I have no desire to change your opinion. Glad to see that we are getting different types of shows in Star Wars that can appeal to different audiences.
I never said Andor was bad, I said it is overrated. Seems to me the Andor fans here haven’t thought about the show with any amount of depth when I bring up basic storytelling flaws of Andor.
Those are all fine things about the show, I have no qualms about people liking those aspects. They don’t balance out the bad storytelling, imo, which is why I say Andor is overrated. But reasonable people can disagree.
Fwiw, I don’t consider myself a SW media fan. The only Disney SW project I’ve liked is Mando S1, and that show has quickly went to the trashbin by start of S3. Everything else Disney has touched in SW has been mid to outright terrible (looking at you Obi-Wan and BoBF).
I do agree about the latter.
This is basically the same response I get from Andor fans every time I present the issues I have with the show. And you’re right, it’s unlikely anything you or I can do to convince the other to change our positions.
However, I will point out that you felt strongly enough to respond to me, but decline to provide any meaningful arguments to address my issues. So I question if you’ve really thought deeply enough about the show you’re a fan of. This is rhetorical, btw; you don’t seem like the person who likes a challenge to their preconceptions.
Now as for adding characters to the game, my question is why/where?
I don't need an existing team ripped apart to make a new one.
SawG. was already a disappointment for Rebel Fighters from what I've read.
Raddus is already a new leader for Rogue-1 & wants Jynn the old leader w/ him.
So the only thing I'd wonder is, can you come up with a Leadership ability that would give use to existing rebels w/o gutting an existing team.
I'd like to find a use for SawG & the whole Wiggs & Chaze sounded really good on paper, but it didn't work out.
I wouldn't mind someone to make Ackbar/Leia have a use.
A tank to hold together the old "Danger Zone" team under Wedge lead?
Making Luthen a Mon type passive character would work but it needs to be with a solid team of characters that don't already have a use IMHO.
Alternatively, he could be like Hermit or Watt & NOT be the leader but offer serious buffs to turbo charge the team. I think this might be better to get some use out of Ackbar/Wedge leadership abilities.
Hmm, actually, it might even be fun to have an ability similar to Moff Gideon & Iden where it calls out team members & opponents being "Leaders".
Something like a leader bonus that gives more stats or buffs going just to Leader Tags & Rebel Fighters, so you end up with a team like Luthen Lead + Ackbar, Leia, Lando, Hoth Soldier.
Maybe something like Hera where it would share Leader Abilities the way her Lead shares Phoenix Uniques.
A team getting Ackbar+Leia+Lando/Wedge+Other leadership all at once might be interesting?
IDK, I just don't need a leader for toons I have at G1 or toons I'm using elsewhere.
I need new toons to work w/ existing relics that have no current use, LOL