It's time for players to protest against how long it still takes to gear up characters. CG made it easier to obtain Stun Guns and Carbantis and then introduced another road block in kyrotechs.
New characters are coming out and then bam! You need another 100 kyrotechs just to get to gear 9. Come back to the light CG. Help the players have fun easier.
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I think its nice its down to only two pieces of gear, and its something you can always hoard in advance for future toons since how common all the new toons need it
Also reduces the number of nodes you need to farm for LS/DS
though, to be fair, I also think g12->g13 purple gear was a bottleneck back when i played that wasn't pointed out as much
While you pay attention to one bottleneck, continue to work on the other one. TLDR, this game is a grind. Hopefully that grind brings joy as you progress!
Remember how darth revan only needed 2 sets of kyro techs? Or how old dad boba needed 1 set of kyro tech? Now every toon needs 3 to 6 sets kyrotechs just to hit gear 12 forget the infinite amount of furnacea and other gear 12+ gears needes for them
Agreed. I think overall this is a better system. I understand the desire to curse kyrotech, I do it myself frequently. In the old days stun guns, carbantis and holoprojectors were equally aggravating plus adding in a slew of other purple gear. I still believe the new raid system has reduced overall rewards but being able to easily shop for the needed pieces makes up for that to a large extent. Kyros suck but they do make planned gear accumulation easier imho.
I think that the better solution is to set an annual cap -- behind the scenes, players won't notice -- on the number of Kyros required across all new toons. Conquest toons, GLs, everybody.
Set that number so that the expected income is greater by whatever factor CG thinks is reasonable, and then stick to it. Then, if you play consistently, you always have to work for it, but you also always get enough in a year for that year's characters + a bit to throw on old toons and slowly bring your entire roster up.
Also, since the players don't know what that number is, it's possible that CG is doing this already. I know that I always have enough for new toons and I've made steady progress with older ones. I only have 16 toons that need a Shock Prod g12 finisher. Of course, if I don't use currency to purchase Kyros then I will fall behind the new toon requirements, so if you increase Kyro income, I won't get more Kyros per year. I'll just stop buying them and start buying something else. And that changes THAT portion of the economy.
At current rates I'm constantly stockpiling, then spilling a whole bunch each time I get a new toon. Take away the need to stockpile and what's next?
My need to stockpile is already going to decrease once I get 16 more g12 finishers (which, of course, isn't going to take THAT long). You shouldn't want to make it too easy on me.
Kyros existed when KAM came out. Every g12 finisher has required Kyros since g12 finishers were invented. And I know that they were invented before anyone had KAM because those early runs to get his shards were being done with r3 501st.
Yep, and he should be much easier to get by now. I've still got about 50 shards to go.
Or you know how to save crystals
That doesn't make sense. There will always be new characters coming out...
I at least never can hoard any for the next toon, I am always out of Kyros 😅
I have more kyros than I can apply across the entire game
Can I have some of yours? 😜
I do want to note - new characters definitely still need 100s of stun guns. It’s just easier to miss, because those stun guns and other pre-G12, non-Kyro gear pieces are so much easier to get.
Another advantage of Kyros being the main pre-G12 bottleneck is that there’s so many teams out there that can run perfectly well with limited (0-2) of those newer, pre-G12 Kyro characters. Traya Trio only needs Talon, NS only want Merrin, MM only needs MM and maybe Kyle, Rogue One only needs AdRad. Other teams like JKR, oSavage, or GG (minus STAP) don’t even need Kyros at all.
I think traya team too, but without talon.
This, was gonna say, I have over 2k Shock Prods and like 950 Computers w/ every available new farm at G11 waiting to be farmable. There's a point where you just get over the hump. Now it's mostly signal data, as the raid does a good job of keeping zinbiddle, impulse's and gyra's stocked.
R5 becomes a minimum you want a char w/ R7 being the old R5 and if they're super char's, R9 is a real possibility (Bane). I know some folks still short on Carbanti's and I've got 3k of those now, lol. You'll get there. Other than farming characters, you won't farm anything but Shock Prods anyways, spend your GET3 and GET2 on Kyro Computers and you'll be golden AND have some Bronze wiring to go w/ it.
What about savage oppress, why the heck does he require 100 shock prods, it's kind of annoying that basically EVERY character requires shock prods, I'm looking at 250 for Zorii, 250 for Captain Rex, 100 for wampa and 100 for old azz savage oppress. This is after just blowing my whole load of 400 on SLKR. It's really demoralizing. I don't even wanna look at the BAM event requirements at this point between IG11, cara dune, Greef and Mando. I have them all at gear 7 rn, now I'm terrified that I'm gonna be looking at another 400+ just to unlock BAM and need another 250.
Edit: ok so this I did not know, that EVERY character needs 100 Kyro to go to relic, as it is a common PC for G12+. So when I hear people talk about "non-kyro characters," they actually mean "minimal Kyro characters" as in, characters that only require the 100 shock prods to go from g12 to relic. This kinda sux even more when you factor in light speed bundles, I'm totally scared of farming any older characters, as my first 4 months worth of Geos and night sisters were just wiped for $30. I want to farm newer toons that have less likelihood of being dropped for dirt cheap, but can't because of the Kyro crunch. Infuriating and frustrating.