Blindsided
May 4, 2016 12:02PM
edited May 2016
I can't believe how easy you people just forget about the bigger issues every time they show you a shiny new coin...i just checked the first 5 pages of the forum and nobody is talking about the raid rewards system anymore...stop being sheep people, keep bringing the raid system to their attention...don't let them distract you.
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i do agree that some valid complaints are being lost in a overwhelming sea of personal complaints about non-issues. But i am pretty sure that the devs who read this forum know how ppl feel about the raid system.
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People won't forget. Some f2p from my guild quit as soon as the rewards from the first raid were distributed saying that the game is becoming too much p2p. And they were right. F2p needs a chance to compete with the guys buying 1600 crystals furnaces non-stop. And the tiered reward system is not the way to do that. But again, i am sure they are aware of this and other stuff like this and they are working on something.
so they quit because p2p players could buy the gear for crystals, this has got nothing to do with the raid system.
They quit after they saw the rewards of the raid. They were hopeful till then. It's not just about the gear but about the coins/credits as well. F2p have a much larger credit shortage than p2p. The reward system is simply not fair and it should be the guild leader's decision whether he allows level 60 players or whatever in his guild or not. It's not the devs problem if 'your guild is as strong as your weakest link'.
Dude i am a pre-crafter and i sit outside top 20 at the reward for the raid time. Pre-crafting a few items doesn't do much if your squad has only 10 characters in it. Versus a gear 8 25 man squad. Hold on, you are dwindling into 2 things at once. On one hand, there is pre-craft and another guild rewards.
It depends who pre-crafted and how much they did. If whales pre-crafted and a ton of it then yea sure. If f2p pre-crafted a few then there isn't much advantage at all. People could beat me from the day i pre-crafted my first char. Unfortunately it was Poggle lol. Now in first place in my shard there is someone sitting at 37k power and this person did NOT pre-craft a single thing. It was all done post-update. Pre-craft vs what this update did is not even close.
They also ruined the idea of being the top guild since it's more about having the resources to complete the raid than the difficulty. I bet EA could conduct a test and unlock Tier 7 to any team that has the requirements to play it and most wouldn't have a problem. In reality, the only real problem is having guild members with deep enough pockets to unlock it, that is all.
The final blow was the pre-craft debacle which is only a stall tactic because they don't have anything up their sleeve for players to keep them busy. It's clear it's a stall because if it were a cash grab, the equipment would be readily available for whales and it isn't, which really puzzles me.
As I said in the first statement, you reap what you sow and EA and CG have unfortunately painted themselves into a corner and I'll enjoy the amusement of watching them try to fix it. I used to be angry about it but I now have resolved to just laughing at it as I double-check to ensure my wallet is closed....
i'm not a fan of the reward system, but the whole p2p vs f2p argument is anoying. the reward system is just as bad for p2p as it is for f2p, if anything, its worse for p2p. Obviously f2p has a much larger credit shortage than p2p. p2p just buy credits... and they need way more credits than a f2p since they have way more toons.
personally i would be more upset about the reward system if I was a p2p. alot of p2p players have gotten worse rewards than f2p players, that would bother me quite a bit.
but like i said, this is not a f2p vs p2p problem. The reward system and the precraft issue both hurt f2p and p2p. If you cant handle p2p having an advantage over f2p you should not play freemium games, or become a p2p yourself. The only reason we can play this game for free is because others pay for an advantage, deal with it. And on top of that, this game is VERY f2p friendly, has little early starter advantages since you compete with players who started around the same time in everymode except for raids.
Cite some evidence, please.
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been there done that
EA just don't care
I do care. I finish in top 3 on raids so do get the rewards, but I think it's unfair to my guildmates who get the scraps no one wants
That's not entirely true. The precraft topic is still very much alive and one of the (if not THE) biggest problems around.
The thing is we get ignored for weeks and after that a few people (like myself) will bump the topic for attention eventhough we know we get ignored.
They have no intention of fixing or solving complaints if it brings $$$ in their pockets. Yes it's a moneygrab and we all accept it
People feel like they've lost their own individual voice.
A lot of lazy players will follow for a bit, then just not pay attention.
A lot of lazier players will see the 100 replies and not bother to read as it's "too much"
Most people don't realize large issues as they see one thread instead of a huge public response.
It's too confusing when an original point and responses get mixed it with everyone else's, there is no timeline for discussion.
Granted it keeps the forums cleaner but it's a great tactic to stop things from gaining steam