Arena is obnoxious at the top: What to be done about lockouts and sniping

President_Scroob

And no this isn't because I just got sniped...well I did, but I took my spot back before payout. Arena at the top near payout isn't fun. You basically have to sit there pounding on the battle button for 10 minutes hoping you can somehow get into a battle while someone out of battle for the 10 seconds it takes to refresh the time. Someone tell me how this is fun? It doesn't show who has the best team at payout, just who can get lucky enough to get through the lockout.

Asavanor

President_Scroob wrote: »

And no this isn't because I just got sniped...well I did, but I took my spot back before payout. Arena at the top near payout isn't fun. You basically have to sit there pounding on the battle button for 10 minutes hoping you can somehow get into a battle while someone out of battle for the 10 seconds it takes to refresh the time. Someone tell me how this is fun? It doesn't show who has the best team at payout, just who can get lucky enough to get through the lockout.

So true. Not the least bit enjoyable or skill testing.

MBL_66

Well it's PvP so you should expect players attacking you and trying to push you back

Tycho

I vote for handing out rewards based on the best rank achieved for the day. No locking out.

Sure that means 20 people might get 500 crystals. Who cares, right EA? That's chump change anyways. Just do it. Arena would be way more enjoyable.

Tak

It's a pretty lame system. It would be a highly enjoyable experience if you could get your payout based on highest rank for the day

President_Scroob

BlowinLoadz wrote: »

Well it's PvP so you should expect players attacking you and trying to push you back

I'm talking top 5 where everyone is simply locking out the person behind them or right in front of them for 10 minutes at the end. They aren't attacking me, they are just sitting on the timer for five minutes. The sniping is an issue too. The only way I could see that being solved is allowing us to take command when we get the "Someone is in a battle with you." That would make you think twice about sniping if you know someone is going to be on the other end waiting. Put a timer on moves so someone couldn't take advantage of it

MBL_66

President_Scroob wrote: »

BlowinLoadz wrote: »

Well it's PvP so you should expect players attacking you and trying to push you back

I'm talking top 5 where everyone is simply locking out the person behind them or right in front of them for 10 minutes at the end. They aren't attacking me, they are just sitting on the timer for five minutes. The sniping is an issue too. The only way I could see that being solved is allowing us to take command when we get the "Someone is in a battle with you." That would make you think twice about sniping if you know someone is going to be on the other end waiting. Put a timer on moves so someone couldn't take advantage of it

Yes I know what it's like in top five

Asavanor

Tycho wrote: »

I vote for handing out rewards based on the best rank achieved for the day. No locking out.

Sure that means 20 people might get 500 crystals. Who cares, right EA? That's chump change anyways. Just do it. Arena would be way more enjoyable.

For sure this would be great.

President_Scroob

BlowinLoadz wrote: »

President_Scroob wrote: »

BlowinLoadz wrote: »

Well it's PvP so you should expect players attacking you and trying to push you back

I'm talking top 5 where everyone is simply locking out the person behind them or right in front of them for 10 minutes at the end. They aren't attacking me, they are just sitting on the timer for five minutes. The sniping is an issue too. The only way I could see that being solved is allowing us to take command when we get the "Someone is in a battle with you." That would make you think twice about sniping if you know someone is going to be on the other end waiting. Put a timer on moves so someone couldn't take advantage of it

Yes I know what it's like in top five

Then how can you not agree? Its not how good your team is because no one wins on defense. Its how lucky you are when you push the battle button

MBL_66

Usually if I annoy people enough they ignore me and take the spot under me

President_Scroob

Asavanor wrote: »

Tycho wrote: »

I vote for handing out rewards based on the best rank achieved for the day. No locking out.

Sure that means 20 people might get 500 crystals. Who cares, right EA? That's chump change anyways. Just do it. Arena would be way more enjoyable.

For sure this would be great.

I don't see how this would work. Someone that was number 1 at reset would just be #1 again.

President_Scroob

BlowinLoadz wrote: »

Usually if I annoy people enough they ignore me and take the spot under me

Ah...see I did that and it backfired on me. I've annoyed this one guy a lot, and today he tried to ruin my payout by sniping me and leaving me 1:30. Luckily I auto'd his team. Sometimes annoying people causes them to try and get revenge

Tak

Asavanor wrote: »

Tycho wrote: »

I vote for handing out rewards based on the best rank achieved for the day. No locking out.

Sure that means 20 people might get 500 crystals. Who cares, right EA? That's chump change anyways. Just do it. Arena would be way more enjoyable.

For sure this would be great.

Got my vote

Tak

President_Scroob wrote: »

Asavanor wrote: »

Tycho wrote: »

I vote for handing out rewards based on the best rank achieved for the day. No locking out.

Sure that means 20 people might get 500 crystals. Who cares, right EA? That's chump change anyways. Just do it. Arena would be way more enjoyable.

For sure this would be great.

I don't see how this would work. Someone that was number 1 at reset would just be #1 again.

Who cares. It would make the overall experience much better. I could actually play different comps for fun

aPlateOfGrapes

Tycho wrote: »

I vote for handing out rewards based on the best rank achieved for the day. No locking out.

Sure that means 20 people might get 500 crystals. Who cares, right EA? That's chump change anyways. Just do it. Arena would be way more enjoyable.

This, right here.

President_Scroob wrote: »

Asavanor wrote: »

Tycho wrote: »

I vote for handing out rewards based on the best rank achieved for the day. No locking out.

Sure that means 20 people might get 500 crystals. Who cares, right EA? That's chump change anyways. Just do it. Arena would be way more enjoyable.

For sure this would be great.

I don't see how this would work. Someone that was number 1 at reset would just be #1 again.

Different people have different reset times (depending on time zone, I believe).

MBL_66

Yea what he means is that you just have to take #1 right before your reset and you'll get #1 rewards for two days

ImperialTaco

The game is already starving for content so I've always seen sniping as some sort of sadistic form of entertainment. It's definitely not changing anytime soon.

Kib

What they really should be doing is to cause you to DROP rank if you lose or draw to someone at a lower rank. Add a little risk to the lock down...

Reddplague

If they want to give free gems for little to no effort on my part who am I to complain? I'm sure PVP is not going the way the expected. They surely didn't except people to lock position during payout. And, there's nothing they can do about it, lol.

MBL_66

It's actually just like any arena in any game I've played so it's probably just as they expected. Actually be glad that you get to control your team on offense, in other games it's all auto battles.

SantasWS

maybe they should change it to most time spend at what rank within the 24h, that would still have ppl spend crystals to hold rank but would remove the last minute rush and also remove the advantage some players form odd timezones enjoy.

J7000

I've been doing this for months. I dont care for it but what's the solution that doesn't dumb everything down and hand out participation medals?

CatoNines

The 30,000 or 40,000 players who aren't here complaining disagree with you and think everything is fine the way it is.

President_Scroob

CatoNines wrote: »

The 30,000 or 40,000 players who aren't here complaining disagree with you and think everything is fine the way it is.

Oh you know that huh?

President_Scroob

J7000 wrote: »

I've been doing this for months. I dont care for it but what's the solution that doesn't dumb everything down and hand out participation medals?

I think the best thing to do is live pvp when you get the "Someone is in a battle with you" message. Take command of your squad, and put a timer on moves so you can't just sit there.

shampoo

Widening the payouts, just make it 1-2 3-5 6-10 10-20 as pay out slots

shampoo

ImperialTaco wrote: »

The game is already starving for content so I've always seen sniping as some sort of sadistic form of entertainment. It's definitely not changing anytime soon.

ImperialTaco wrote: »

The game is already starving for content so I've always seen sniping as some sort of sadistic form of entertainment. It's definitely not changing anytime soon.

Haha this. I know who all of the euro players are on my shard and when I'm bored I just lock them out because there's nothing else to do.

Elyndria

Tak wrote: »

It's a pretty lame system. It would be a highly enjoyable experience if you could get your payout based on highest rank for the day

I like this idea!

Arena was the reason I quit playing. It was super annoying and stressful having to play for an hour a day, making sure I time people out so it's impossible for them to take my rank. Having to coordinate with other people is even more ridiculous... Something needs to be changed for sure. At the lower ranks it's not as big of an issue -- but at the top it's completely obvious how flawed the payout system is. CG should not force us to play at the same time every day to get the best rewards.

My bf plays as well and he works the night shift, so he's totally unable to play during reward payout times. I end up having to play for him or he just rolls the dice and his guildmates help snipe people for him.

Megadeth3700

Tycho wrote: »

I vote for handing out rewards based on the best rank achieved for the day. No locking out.

Sure that means 20 people might get 500 crystals. Who cares, right EA? That's chump change anyways. Just do it. Arena would be way more enjoyable.

Yup yup and yup

J7000

President_Scroob wrote: »

J7000 wrote: »

I've been doing this for months. I dont care for it but what's the solution that doesn't dumb everything down and hand out participation medals?

I think the best thing to do is live pvp when you get the "Someone is in a battle with you" message. Take command of your squad, and put a timer on moves so you can't just sit there.

Haha, that would be evil

President_Scroob

J7000 wrote: »

President_Scroob wrote: »

J7000 wrote: »

I've been doing this for months. I dont care for it but what's the solution that doesn't dumb everything down and hand out participation medals?

I think the best thing to do is live pvp when you get the "Someone is in a battle with you" message. Take command of your squad, and put a timer on moves so you can't just sit there.

Haha, that would be evil

Why? It would make things interesting, and with a timer on moves in live PVP, it would ensure no abuse