I think it's high time this issue was addressed. IG-88 is described as "high dodge" in his description. Yet his dodge rating sits at 0.
He doesn't even come with any sort of evasion buff. This issue has been stagnant since launch, despite characters being introduced and going the full cycle of buff>nerf>buff. For heavens sake, a character that was more prevalent with higher innate survivability with no advertised dodge boost, was buffed to dodge more (Sidious).
Considering the recent unfair sucker punch droid teams have received with the unheralded Poe triple nerf, I think a fair act of compensation would be to simply allow IG-88 to dodge at a higher rate as he was advertised to do. Perhaps at the same rate as Sidious against Jedi, except against all toons (minus anti-droid characters like Jawas).
This would make droid teams somewhat viable in the high-level arena endgame, as we all know that in the current meta, IG-88 is taken out in the very first attack, and with it all hope of Droid teams mustering a semblance of a chance on defence.
What do you guys think? Someone hotlink EA_Jesse in here to see if this fix is in the works or not.
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Why a menace? hK is a joke and with a fast team (any combinarion of 17 chars that go before the Droids or Poe) IG-88 is without any doubt or chance dead. Once he is dead, there are only 2 droids and only 1 does damage and has no AoE.
With the right team, the droids have 100% chance to lose both on offense and defense.
Let me translate this: Droid teams ALWAYS LOSE versus a well equiped fast team. 100% of the time. Without exception.
Corolary: in a mature server (an every server gets there soon enough) LOSING to a Droids team is voluntary masochism.
Just from reading your title you made me happy. The high dodge is the only thing that can make droids viable if only to at least have a chance on a lucky day.
Now that Poe can't help vs fast teams, his dodge is not just needed...it's the only thing that can save them.
I think you got him mixed up with IG-86 friend.
My B. I have assist on the brain.
None of this is true. You are prone to overexaggeration. Droids lose on defense vs QGJ Lead teams, or Ackbar leaded teams. On offense, Droids act at speed 149.
What you can't do is to expect build a group of 5 guys, and keep them that way forever. The meta evolves and you have to evolve with the meta. Drop the Poggle-Poe-3 robots combo, and the droids are fine
I'm curious where you got 149 from. Correct me if I'm wrong but even with Lobot lead they wouldn't be that fast. Unless you are talking about Geonosian Soldier. He has 149 speed.
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Yeah. And ig88 should be even more ninja like as he is two models up and even was hired by Vader.
They go same speed defense or offense, but AI a bit dumb. Agree they should not win all the time. I think 88 needs high dodge vs Jedis and a 15% damage nerf. Suggesting this is an invitation to further destroy him lol. iG-88 woukd be nice also with some ability tonstealth, even if 25%.
One of the things many mentioned is speed/assist and that on defense evryone loses is making the game a little boring/pointless
+1...IG-88 is dead always vs QGJ speed teams
Whats the QGJ speed team?
QGJ Lead + Jedi
Talking about Geonosian Soldier, yes. He acts, the guy he calls in assist also act if crit. That's a minimum of 2 moves at 149 speed. If the guy you called is IG86, he calls another guy, making it 3 guys. If the guy called is IG88 or HK47, they AOE, and hopefully get 3+ crits and act again. Not difficult at all make 3 moves at 149 speed, and that's what most teams hope for. A few teams purposelly built for speed, such as Jedi fast QGJ teams or Rebel teams can go faster, but it is not bad
All teams have a character dead vs QGJ speed teams. Losing a character is not an automatic defeat. It is, if you insist to live in January 2016 and use only 2 threats in a team, with HK, Poggle and Poe all using space. Then yes, they kill IG88 and you are toast. And that's when you defend, as when you attack QGJ will target randomly and might very well hit HK47 instead of 88..
Fortunately, it is possible to leave past behind, and try new things. Like adding GS or QGJ or both to your Droid team. Or adding Dooku to stun QGJ. We see teams now, having Dooku as a 6th man is a great plan.
The beauty of post-Poe meta, is tthat we are not locked into 5 man teams that you don't need to change, ever, no matter of what. It'll be a bit silly to develop a "gotta catch them all" game like this, and then make collecting different characters useless because Poe is the answer to every question, and you just need to focus on 3 droids, Poggle and Poe and never ever change anything in your team for the span of the game life.
Speed+assist probably need a balancing patch. But that will affect Droids as much as everyone else.
Droid team is a trio of droids led by HK. It may be accompanied by two fast dps or 1 fast dps and Dooku (against QGJ teams)
I like the current status as well.
There are counters to everything, just change the squad.
Poe - Poggle - droids trouble? Bring a swift QGJ led team with Yoda, Rey ...
Dooku and GS combined with AOEs (Sid, Ren, 88) is great against QGJ, Rey, Yoda teams.
Counter teams with 5s, Dooku, and nowadays Opress are a great option against AOEs
and so on ...
Game becomes more and more the rock-paper-scissors, as it should be
I got like 15 out 20 using qui gon. The other 3 is hk and one poggle and Dooku as lead. The Droids stay at least on the top twenty. Wish I could look at there teams but I'm only top 200 as of late.
His HP allows 1-3 hit kill depending on the attacker. If her were able to evade occasionally he may survive the first wave of attacks to actually contribute to damage.
I think a lot of people wait for hk47 to meatbag before they use ig88s AOE anyway, which most of the time is too late because the enemy has already had 3 full turns.
It will might make people think twice and strategise more when facing a droid squad instead of automatically HARMONIOUS STRIKE--->It's a critical hit!--->IG-88 has been vaporised.