Hi guys, am about to get my 20th zeta material and will be doing my first zeta on vader tomorrow as I want to start posting high scores in rancor. Currently I use a Thrawn lead in Arena with Vader, Palp, Shoretrooper and Nihilus. I'm assuming switching to Zader lead after I get him will probably produce better results? Or would it be better to stick with Thrawn lead.
Any advice would be welcome.
http://swgoh.gg/u/asra9632/
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I'm doing Rancor with Teebo(L), Cassian, Rex, QGJ and TFP. I solo'd it last week and can usually make P1 + P2 + P3.
Imo, Thrawn is the best Empire lead and his zeta makes him even greater, especially in that CLS environment. At your level, you should also replace Vader by TFP in your arena team.
What's Cassian's role in that team?
Sorry for my English :]
Applying debuffs (speed down, offense down, defense down). He's also the second hitter after TFP.
Imo, Thrawn is the best Empire lead and his zeta makes him even greater, especially in that CLS environment. At your level, you should also replace Vader by TFP in your arena team.[/quote]
Oh really? You reckon TFP would be better? I just find him really squishy and find that vader has good synergies with the rest of the team. He makes everyone on the other team have a debuff so gaurantees nihilus 5 cooldowns on drain force and his ability block on basic means thrawn can put out loads of stuns. Not to mention his culling blade does crazy damage. Might have to give TFP a go though. Was wanting to add Deathtrooper to the squad once I've farmed him, probably swap for EP
Yes. But top 100 really isn't that great. So why make a point of dissing other people's advice when you yourself, prove said advice to be right?
Ok, my friend, you are right. Top 100 "isn't that great." What is great? Top 10? Top 20? Let me know where the cutoff is at. Right now, my shard is filled with CLS squads with g12. As a mostly FTP player I am not going to compete with that setup. I am happy with where I am at.
Don't worry though, I will be fine in my shard. Make adjustments as I need to do so.
As things stand now, thrawn is probably the better leader... but with g12 things are gonna change as more obscure heros get the limelight they deserve.
I beg to differ, a good zVader squad can absolutely romp in the top of arena, you should not make assumptions based on your shard, my nov 2015 sees a zVader squad in the very top daily, amongst all the CLS r2 combos
zVader, Thrawn, TFP, DT, Shore. Not tanky enough.
zVader, Thrawn, TFP, DT, Storm. Tanky but not enough to hold CLS.
Thrawn, Veers, Shore, DT, Storm : I hold my place, rarely falling. Because I did zVader Yesterday I went to 89, I'm currently 51 because I fall after Payout and this is not changing since then. This squad is tanky in many ways : max protection, defense, max health, critical immunity, defense up, heal, etc...
At then end, this is one of the best composition I know because they gain a lot of TM and if you Zeta Thrawn lead you might gain more protection.
Well kudos to that player. I haven't seen a single Vader lead in the top 50 for months. I assume the player you refer to has amazing mods. I'm sure you'll admit, Vader led with squads are pretty rare in high end arena aren't they? Therefore I think the advice not to run a Vader lead is fair. If not, why isn't Vader a common lead in arena?
OK, thanks (but CLS is better )
Sorry for my English :]
He was not great in arena for a while, but new CLS/R2 meta rendered him useless.
After his bug correction/debuff he is not among the best options for Rancor either, go for CLS or Jyn.
A few months ago Zader was great in arena, rancor, aat and has a good ship. Now if I'm given the option I'd use this zeta in another toon.
Go Thrawn if you want to stay DS, but be aware that this is a strong LS meta.
If you can get him to 200 speed, SA can make him go faster than any toon sitting at 249!or below. Some Rex are faster, most are not. He ability blocks GK through foresight so no group hug from him, and having SA with 3 buffs or more on her can oneshot squishy(read Rex/wedge/offense modded chirrut).
He is by no means bad in arena with the right cast. CLS lead however(-and to a lesser extent, Thraw) cause big problems. With CLS lead everywhere, I wouldn't zeta him for arena. For rancor(assuming you have no CLS) he is a great zeta investment. Rocks at p2 in NAAT as well.
I have zzThrawn, DK, zDT, ShT and DN and can take #1.
MTFBWY
I believe zVader has his place but does need speed up to be effective. I didn't know about SA feeding TM or speed but will consider that as that would keep my Arena standing (150-200). I also have to speed up Thrawn as he's <200 and for now, I avoid faster teams. Eventually my server teams will speed up so I know I must in order to keep up. I will g10 him as well.
I am considering my next zeta on Thrawn lead so wonder if that's good or else I may zeta Kylo's unique. Any thoughts?
Down the road, I'm considering completing Kylo to 85 g9 (eventually g10) and zeta him to take Boba or EP.
I currently use:
Zader (L, 7*g12), EP(7* g11), Thrawn(7* g8), TFP(7* g10), and Shoretrooper (5* g11)
for rancor I take out ep and shoretrooper and sub in some 7* toons.
Whats the best empire arena team I can make:
https://swgoh.gg/u/xeo
I've recently switched out Bobafett for thrawn to see if I could stop my spiraling towards top 100 (was consistently top 50 before the past few weeks)
Cool:), yes long farm. I am building Empire team 4 months. Now 5 started. So keep patience, i can tell You that my Empire can 4/4 phase 6 in DS TB without any platoons fullfiled:), very tough team. Once I had no enough time so I had to auto CLS team, and this team won. I was suprised:).
I run an alternate account with 7* Thrawn (this account is 6*) and I can say that I almost team soloed P3 Rancor yesterday. It was my 1st time able to make the door come down on the Rancor at least 2 times. Think I was so excited, I lost count 1..2..was that 3? Unbelievable power when you can fracture Rancor.
@Gawejn, yes phase 6 DS TB (LS TB too) is so tough. Good to hear your success. I'm trying to follow.