I'm normally a fan of tanks - specifically general Kenobi.
That said, under the new EP lead zeta, I think a tank will just slow you down. This team is built around going fast and often. Should just name it, "Don't daze me, bro!" That'll be the only thing that could hurt it.
So after all the reworks and new releases what is the consensus? Tank or no tank?
I honestly think some of it depends on your shard. If you have the fastest team by a large margin, you can go no tanks. But the issue with no tanks is, if the speeds are close and the other Vader gets a turn fairly soon, then, because of the whole "if everyone hits 100% TM, RNG decides" issue, things can go south fast for a No Tank team. Any Palp lead team becomes VERY easy to beat once Palp is down. Even with his zeta unique, he is still squishy enough to take down without a tank protecting him.
My November 2015 has almost all EP lead w/tank teams. Some actually have 2 tanks - (GK/ST, GK/Sion or even Sion/ST). Some will run EP/Vader/DN. Others prefer Thrawn in place of DN.
Some of that might be to prevent "tank switching" to beat them. What I mean is, many were running 4 DS + GK - but will swap in a g12 Shore on offense, just to outspeed the teams with GK. But much of the top 20 in our shard have very strong speed mods and have fairly similar teams.
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So after all the reworks and new releases what is the consensus? Tank or no tank?
I honestly think some of it depends on your shard. If you have the fastest team by a large margin, you can go no tanks. But the issue with no tanks is, if the speeds are close and the other Vader gets a turn fairly soon, then, because of the whole "if everyone hits 100% TM, RNG decides" issue, things can go south fast for a No Tank team. Any Palp lead team becomes VERY easy to beat once Palp is down. Even with his zeta unique, he is still squishy enough to take down without a tank protecting him.
My November 2015 has almost all EP lead w/tank teams. Some actually have 2 tanks - (GK/ST, GK/Sion or even Sion/ST). Some will run EP/Vader/DN. Others prefer Thrawn in place of DN.
Some of that might be to prevent "tank switching" to beat them. What I mean is, many were running 4 DS + GK - but will swap in a g12 Shore on offense, just to outspeed the teams with GK. But much of the top 20 in our shard have very strong speed mods and have fairly similar teams.
I have a fairly old shard not real sure when I started playing but it was shortly after the release. I have been running Palp, Vader, Thrawn, Tarkin and Raid Han all with zetas. I just now switched out Tarkin and Han for Shore and zStrom. Fought a JTR team with GK and zHan and barely scrapped by with the win. They even had 2 illuminated destinys go off (how I survived idk). I don't have Nihillus or GK arena ready but would like to run with them. My arena like yours has very strong speed mods which make it difficult but the tanks can absorb a lot of the initial blows. I guess I will have to wait and see how they do on defense before committing to the team.
A tank will only slow down your team.I tried a full AoE based team using Palp,Vader,Nihilus,Tarkin and TFP.This team stayed at 19th place almost 24 hours.So this team does its job.
Sion is honestly a perfect addition to these teams... he’s kind of a “pseudo tank” to take some weight off the attackers... but you don’t have to sacrifice too much to stick him in there and he compliments the team nicely
Btw... Tie pilot is the key for other Sion teams. His buff block basically makes the other Sion useless and he still cranks our amazing damage and moves super fast
Sion is honestly a perfect addition to these teams... he’s kind of a “pseudo tank” to take some weight off the attackers... but you don’t have to sacrifice too much to stick him in there and he compliments the team nicely
Btw... Tie pilot is the key for other Sion teams. His buff block basically makes the other Sion useless and he still cranks our amazing damage and moves super fast
"he’s kind of a “pseudo tank” " And that is the problem with him.He can't taunt exactly when you want him to and that might cost you losing Palp or Nihilus quite quickly.I would choose any day Shore in this line-up.Palp,Vader,Nihilus,Shore and TFP/Tarkin.
Hey all
I have been running zzEP, DV, Thrawn, Zavage and Zylo for the last couple months, never used a tank in Arena.
Thanks to the rework I can make it into top 200 quite easily but not any further. I lost my account for about a year so I'm a little behind my shardmates when it comes to legendary toons or gear.
Anyone care to give me a little advice here?
I'd like to swap out Zylo, but who to go for the open spot? https://swgoh.gg/u/defekt713/
Is my Stormtrooper good enough?
When does Shore become viable for arena?
Or should I stay without a tank and put another offensive toon in?
I have never used a Tank since I started (dec 2015 shard) always been a top 100 player.
Been using the same team now for over 6 months and its held top 50 with no tank... As I transition to EP lead team I will continue to omit a tank from my arena team.
Not only are they boring to use they are all garbage apart from GK.
The only team that truly benefits from a tank is NS.
Hey all
I have been running zzEP, DV, Thrawn, Zavage and Zylo for the last couple months, never used a tank in Arena.
Thanks to the rework I can make it into top 200 quite easily but not any further. I lost my account for about a year so I'm a little behind my shardmates when it comes to legendary toons or gear.
Anyone care to give me a little advice here?
I'd like to swap out Zylo, but who to go for the open spot? https://swgoh.gg/u/defekt713/
Is my Stormtrooper good enough?
When does Shore become viable for arena?
Or should I stay without a tank and put another offensive toon in?
Thanks in advance.
Against Palp teams I would recommend Thrawn lead with Palp, Tarkin Vader, and DT, against everything else I would switch to Palp lead. Tank also would be good with Palp lead like Shore.
I find when I’m busy at work and need to be able to just click auto and probably win...
No tanks is the way to go... sure it probably sucks on defense. It definitely does get picked on more than others based on how much this team drops... into the 20’s
A shard mate on of mine asked me to make a video vs his new team to see how they do defensively...
So you go on full auto... a couple of random “no tanks” videos again just to show their viability
And another for good measure vs empire w/ Sion (don’t give me any “his Sion is only 4 stars” nonsense... his mods are solid and it wouldn’t have mattered if he was 7 stars)
Poe.. SThan... rg... Shore.. baze... SithTrooper... GK...
All were meta. Because you can't run 4 supports or 5 attackers. Can't do it. You need balance. Just started a thread because IMO, no team can survive as meta much if all from same faction.
You need the benefits from each type. Tanks have it perks, you'll need those, they'll continue to be. Maybe not the current tanks, but there is always a tank in the meta.
Tank isn’t a faction. Neither are support or attacker.
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Nope, just regular tfp.
I'm normally a fan of tanks - specifically general Kenobi.
That said, under the new EP lead zeta, I think a tank will just slow you down. This team is built around going fast and often. Should just name it, "Don't daze me, bro!" That'll be the only thing that could hurt it.
I honestly think some of it depends on your shard. If you have the fastest team by a large margin, you can go no tanks. But the issue with no tanks is, if the speeds are close and the other Vader gets a turn fairly soon, then, because of the whole "if everyone hits 100% TM, RNG decides" issue, things can go south fast for a No Tank team. Any Palp lead team becomes VERY easy to beat once Palp is down. Even with his zeta unique, he is still squishy enough to take down without a tank protecting him.
My November 2015 has almost all EP lead w/tank teams. Some actually have 2 tanks - (GK/ST, GK/Sion or even Sion/ST). Some will run EP/Vader/DN. Others prefer Thrawn in place of DN.
Some of that might be to prevent "tank switching" to beat them. What I mean is, many were running 4 DS + GK - but will swap in a g12 Shore on offense, just to outspeed the teams with GK. But much of the top 20 in our shard have very strong speed mods and have fairly similar teams.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
I have a fairly old shard not real sure when I started playing but it was shortly after the release. I have been running Palp, Vader, Thrawn, Tarkin and Raid Han all with zetas. I just now switched out Tarkin and Han for Shore and zStrom. Fought a JTR team with GK and zHan and barely scrapped by with the win. They even had 2 illuminated destinys go off (how I survived idk). I don't have Nihillus or GK arena ready but would like to run with them. My arena like yours has very strong speed mods which make it difficult but the tanks can absorb a lot of the initial blows. I guess I will have to wait and see how they do on defense before committing to the team.
Btw... Tie pilot is the key for other Sion teams. His buff block basically makes the other Sion useless and he still cranks our amazing damage and moves super fast
"he’s kind of a “pseudo tank” " And that is the problem with him.He can't taunt exactly when you want him to and that might cost you losing Palp or Nihilus quite quickly.I would choose any day Shore in this line-up.Palp,Vader,Nihilus,Shore and TFP/Tarkin.
I have been running zzEP, DV, Thrawn, Zavage and Zylo for the last couple months, never used a tank in Arena.
Thanks to the rework I can make it into top 200 quite easily but not any further. I lost my account for about a year so I'm a little behind my shardmates when it comes to legendary toons or gear.
Anyone care to give me a little advice here?
I'd like to swap out Zylo, but who to go for the open spot?
https://swgoh.gg/u/defekt713/
Is my Stormtrooper good enough?
When does Shore become viable for arena?
Or should I stay without a tank and put another offensive toon in?
Thanks in advance.
Been using the same team now for over 6 months and its held top 50 with no tank... As I transition to EP lead team I will continue to omit a tank from my arena team.
Not only are they boring to use they are all garbage apart from GK.
The only team that truly benefits from a tank is NS.
You should look at your top 20 and see what percentage of them use a tank.
Then look at yout top 50.
The answer to both except on baby shards will be 99% use tanks. EP lead is also using 2 tanks.
This tells you that in a more competitive environment, tanks will help you fall less.
Winning on offense without a tank and claiming this is better is shortsighted.
No tanks is the way to go... sure it probably sucks on defense. It definitely does get picked on more than others based on how much this team drops... into the 20’s
A shard mate on of mine asked me to make a video vs his new team to see how they do defensively...
So you go on full auto... a couple of random “no tanks” videos again just to show their viability
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LHxnUbxpW0Y
And another for good measure vs empire w/ Sion (don’t give me any “his Sion is only 4 stars” nonsense... his mods are solid and it wouldn’t have mattered if he was 7 stars)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rUtA_5-57p0
Yes. Yes it is.
Tank isn’t a faction. Neither are support or attacker.
You're welcome.