That's the routine.
Release an OP character->lock it behind paywall->profit->nerf->make the now totally average toon farmable->deal with those three or four dudes threatening you for a refund->profit anyway. I mean, Sion is still an absolute beast, but they had to basically refund every single crybaby shopper which paid for him, so no need to nerf him further.
Is it possible to get a refund for 300+$ Because the character was nerfed?
Man, y’all will whine about anything. Put in a fun new toon, with a cool mechanic that challenges how you play, and you all turn into the old woman from Princess Bride. BOOBOOBOOOOOO
I like the toon, I think she just requires different strategy? Which is fun, i like it when they shake things up.
The trick with her is to just use one attack on her until her next turn, preferably these would be bigger attacks, Han’s special comes to mind. It’s actually easier to take her out while she has allies because it allows you to just hit her once per turn (her turns). The high counter Chance and eventual high health steal aren’t that big a deal, just look at dooku under Nihilus, stun, shock, heal immunity, all work fine for that aspect of her kit.
She is basically a toon that you can’t focus fire down and are forced to whittle down.
She may be best in a JTR team,smoke all attacks to her...only downfall here is she'll probably get ability blocked so her AOE is out but omega her basic adds expose..interesting...probably even better than holdo bc of thrawn.
Uproar either way. If they don't change her she's totally OP and unbalanced. If they nerf her whales will be furious for spending on her just to get nerfed way worse. Which is totally fair for the whales to be mad.
thats funny, did you get her for free, i know i did.
kyno i know why i blocked you its cause of this crap. yes u got her for free but she is no way viable without PAYING you noob. like i said before stop defending stupidity
Another counter to her, attacking through protection, visas mar can do it, so can talzin, if you let her get no turns and have one of those toons she will die. If they add a DS toon from the movie they should also have this mechanic.
As far as I can tell the real problem with this character is that nothing stops the protection gain, not fracture, not buff immunity, not healing immunity. And I'm assuming isolate has no effect either.
Feels like they are grasping at straws here. Release a super op toon right after ships 2.0. I am guessing ships didn't preform up to expectations.
The problem with ships is that they never fixed ships 1.0 before releasing a much more unbalanced ships 2.0. A massive % of the community can’t stand ships as it was, and they go and release something that is worse. They should have combined Arena with ships, that gives you a choice of which method to attack the player with.
Uproar either way. If they don't change her she's totally OP and unbalanced. If they nerf her whales will be furious for spending on her just to get nerfed way worse. Which is totally fair for the whales to be mad.
Wonder which way it will go
Except she's not OP. There's a lot of answers to her. The screenshots and videos are basically people taking the worst possible team against her and then saying that proves she's overpowered. It's like trying to prove Rock is overpowered by constantly putting Scissors up against it.
Another counter to her, attacking through protection, visas mar can do it, so can talzin, if you let her get no turns and have one of those toons she will die. If they add a DS toon from the movie they should also have this mechanic.
As far as I can tell the real problem with this character is that nothing stops the protection gain, not fracture, not buff immunity, not healing immunity. And I'm assuming isolate has no effect either.
So yeah the character is **** broken.
Lots of characters beat her. Moreover, she's not doing any actual damage while that extra protection is on her because she's not taking turns. Once she takes a turn, she drops.
I think Nest can be countered easily if you hit her very hard (almost every team has one of those) or attacks that ignore protection. My only dislike is that there is debuff that prevents her protection up which is pretty weird
So Nest will be everywhere soon. This is a G11 with no Omega’s and 4*. I went against another Traya squad to show she is viable at 4*. She was **** near unkillable. RNG was really against me, but still was able to pull a W. https://youtu.be/n9G4LfLB6kM
Man, y’all will whine about anything. Put in a fun new toon, with a cool mechanic that challenges how you play, and you all turn into the old woman from Princess Bride. BOOBOOBOOOOOO
This.
She's an interesting and exciting new character. Get involved or don't get involved. This game would get very dull and stagnant if nothing ever changed.
Sure- she's a challenge. But again - the game needs new challenges. Now we've got one...if we choose to take it up.
Hard and infrequent. Presumably. Not easy. But that's the challenge.
And we never know how every other character will interact with her. Nobody knows that yet.
Heck, Ugnaught might finally have his moment
Well, EACG should know. Its called "testing". And should remove interactions like that with Trayas Bonds of Weakness, which they adressed for many toons in many subsequent hotfixes..
Man, y’all will whine about anything. Put in a fun new toon, with a cool mechanic that challenges how you play, and you all turn into the old woman from Princess Bride. BOOBOOBOOOOOO
This.
She's an interesting and exciting new character. Get involved or don't get involved. This game would get very dull and stagnant if nothing ever changed.
Sure- she's a challenge. But again - the game needs new challenges. Now we've got one...if we choose to take it up.
Why is a mod against people having opinions other than "everything is awesome and you are not allowed to dislike something" lol
Most dislikes actually have reasons, or is even giving examples and facts now considered "whining" xD
Anyway, the only real complaint I see is the fact that using her beats the AI. The AI currently does not know how to deal with her, even proven above in the vid with Tarkin fracturing her, which only helps her live through everything. On attacks she's a "I win" button against everything. At least on defence you as a player can beat her.
Man, y’all will whine about anything. Put in a fun new toon, with a cool mechanic that challenges how you play, and you all turn into the old woman from Princess Bride. BOOBOOBOOOOOO
This.
She's an interesting and exciting new character. Get involved or don't get involved. This game would get very dull and stagnant if nothing ever changed.
Sure- she's a challenge. But again - the game needs new challenges. Now we've got one...if we choose to take it up.
Why is a mod against people having opinions other than "everything is awesome and you are not allowed to dislike something" lol
Most dislikes actually have reasons, or is even giving examples and facts now considered "whining" xD
Anyway, the only real complaint I see is the fact that using her beats the AI. The AI currently does not know how to deal with her, even proven above in the vid with Tarkin fracturing her, which only helps her live through everything. On attacks she's a "I win" button against everything. At least on defence you as a player can beat her.
I'm not "against" anyone having opinions of any sort. But this is a discussion board - people express their opinons and others react to them. That's kind of how it works
And you seem incredibly sure about a character that was released just over 24 hours ago lol.
Exactly. And considering she is quite universal "I WIN" button against AI even as 3* / 4* toon, I think we can safely call her "BAD DESIGN".
Which I do not often, but I do now.
She should get tag "AI SCRAMBLER" instead of attacker... (NS Zombie may get that too)
Exactly. And considering she is quite universal "I WIN" button against AI even as 3* / 4* toon, I think we can safely call her "BAD DESIGN".
Which I do not often, but I do now.
She should get tag "AI SCRAMBLER" instead of attacker... (NS Zombie may get that too)
Is she an "i win" button though? I haven't faced any yet, that's why i'm asking.
By the looks of it the AI just can't kill her, but on offense a draw doesn't do you any good. On defence it's not that big of a problem because the other team is human controlled. I also assume that squads controlled by the AI that don't have any form of TMR will easily beat nest in a 5v1.
I like the comparrison to NS zombi though, i'm just unsure the cheese will result in a win on offence the same way NS zombi does.
Uproar either way. If they don't change her she's totally OP and unbalanced. If they nerf her whales will be furious for spending on her just to get nerfed way worse. Which is totally fair for the whales to be mad.
Wonder which way it will go
My bet: After the whales maxed her out, they will add another, new, even more op character to counter her.
Left by design. The fixed payout times are the worst part of this game and makes it absolutely family-unfriendly.
Exactly. And considering she is quite universal "I WIN" button against AI even as 3* / 4* toon, I think we can safely call her "BAD DESIGN".
Which I do not often, but I do now.
She should get tag "AI SCRAMBLER" instead of attacker... (NS Zombie may get that too)
Is she an "i win" button though? I haven't faced any yet, that's why i'm asking.
By the looks of it the AI just can't kill her, but on offense a draw doesn't do you any good. On defence it's not that big of a problem because the other team is human controlled. I also assume that squads controlled by the AI that don't have any form of TMR will easily beat nest in a 5v1.
I like the comparrison to NS zombi though, i'm just unsure the cheese will result in a win on offence the same way NS zombi does.
Faster DN wins
Left by design. The fixed payout times are the worst part of this game and makes it absolutely family-unfriendly.
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Is it possible to get a refund for 300+$ Because the character was nerfed?
The trick with her is to just use one attack on her until her next turn, preferably these would be bigger attacks, Han’s special comes to mind. It’s actually easier to take her out while she has allies because it allows you to just hit her once per turn (her turns). The high counter Chance and eventual high health steal aren’t that big a deal, just look at dooku under Nihilus, stun, shock, heal immunity, all work fine for that aspect of her kit.
She is basically a toon that you can’t focus fire down and are forced to whittle down.
thats funny, did you get her for free, i know i did.
yeah, we will see how that plays out.
Wonder which way it will go
kyno i know why i blocked you its cause of this crap. yes u got her for free but she is no way viable without PAYING you noob. like i said before stop defending stupidity
Let her takes a turn then you're good.
So yeah the character is stupid broken.
The problem with ships is that they never fixed ships 1.0 before releasing a much more unbalanced ships 2.0. A massive % of the community can’t stand ships as it was, and they go and release something that is worse. They should have combined Arena with ships, that gives you a choice of which method to attack the player with.
Sith Assassin and Sith Trooper, too.
Lots of characters beat her. Moreover, she's not doing any actual damage while that extra protection is on her because she's not taking turns. Once she takes a turn, she drops.
Not super OP.
Kinda like UKR zeta is
This.
She's an interesting and exciting new character. Get involved or don't get involved. This game would get very dull and stagnant if nothing ever changed.
Sure- she's a challenge. But again - the game needs new challenges. Now we've got one...if we choose to take it up.
Uhh, no.
And we never know how every other character will interact with her. Nobody knows that yet.
Heck, Ugnaught might finally have his moment
Uhh, no.
Well, EACG should know. Its called "testing". And should remove interactions like that with Trayas Bonds of Weakness, which they adressed for many toons in many subsequent hotfixes..
Why is a mod against people having opinions other than "everything is awesome and you are not allowed to dislike something"
Most dislikes actually have reasons, or is even giving examples and facts now considered "whining" xD
Anyway, the only real complaint I see is the fact that using her beats the AI. The AI currently does not know how to deal with her, even proven above in the vid with Tarkin fracturing her, which only helps her live through everything. On attacks she's a "I win" button against everything. At least on defence you as a player can beat her.
I'm not "against" anyone having opinions of any sort. But this is a discussion board - people express their opinons and others react to them. That's kind of how it works
And you seem incredibly sure about a character that was released just over 24 hours ago lol.
Which I do not often, but I do now.
She should get tag "AI SCRAMBLER" instead of attacker... (NS Zombie may get that too)
Is she an "i win" button though? I haven't faced any yet, that's why i'm asking.
By the looks of it the AI just can't kill her, but on offense a draw doesn't do you any good. On defence it's not that big of a problem because the other team is human controlled. I also assume that squads controlled by the AI that don't have any form of TMR will easily beat nest in a 5v1.
I like the comparrison to NS zombi though, i'm just unsure the cheese will result in a win on offence the same way NS zombi does.
The fixed payout times are the worst part of this game and makes it absolutely family-unfriendly.
The fixed payout times are the worst part of this game and makes it absolutely family-unfriendly.