Please explain

beasttx1985 · July 23, 2018 6:31PM

I'm in 4th place in arena and I was battleing the #1 guy. Can someone please explain to my how his Vader landed 3/5 debuffs on my Jedi team when they all have +150% tenancity? Btw his Vader only has 64% base potency and +35% from emp palpatine leader ability and therefore only has 99% potency. All my Jedi have a minimum of 180% tenancity.

How can his Vader possibly land ANY debuffs when he is at least 80% potency less than my weakest tenancity?

beasttx1985 · July 23, 2018 6:33PM

I hope the developers fix this glitch/bug ASAP or my cc will be glad to refund me for my investments.

MajesticMoose41 · July 23, 2018 6:34PM

There's always a 15% chance that debuffs will land. Built in game mechanic that has always been there.

UdalCuain · July 23, 2018 6:35PM

There's always a chance to apply debuffs, however small. Only tenacity up can prevent all debuffs, and even then there's some that cam sneak through that.

UdalCuain · July 23, 2018 6:36PM

MajesticMoose41 wrote: »

There's always a 15% chance that debuffs will land. Built in game mechanic that has always been there.

Isn't it 15% minimum resist chance? Just been trying to work it out.

Hellsteeth30 · July 23, 2018 6:38PM

WAI.

Tenacity does not make you completely immune to debuffs. I believe there's a cutoff point.

Similar to no matter how potency you stack up the victim always has a non negotiable 15% chance (I think it's that) to resist it.

Otherwise what would be the point of debuffs/buffs if you could just nullify them all the time?

beasttx1985 · July 23, 2018 6:40PM

Current arena team btw only 69k GP

beasttx1985 · July 23, 2018 6:41PM

So 15% will always be the min chance to stick debuffs? Sounds like **** to me. Why make debuffs always have a chance to land when tenancity is that much higher

Yerff_Caasi · July 23, 2018 6:41PM

I saw in a game changer video that regardless of how much tenacity you have, there’s always a 15% chance of getting debuffed, and regardless of how much Potency you have, there’s always a 15% chance of the enemy resisting the debuffs.

Not sure why, but it’s apparently WAI.

beasttx1985 · July 23, 2018 6:42PM

What's WAI??

BubbaFett · July 23, 2018 6:50PM

beasttx1985 wrote: »

What's WAI??

Working as intended.....

The idea behind it is that it's a game..... You shouldn't be able to buy a win from capital gains.....

EventineElessedil · July 23, 2018 7:23PM

Yerff_Caasi wrote: »

I saw in a game changer video that regardless of how much tenacity you have, there’s always a 15% chance of getting debuffed, and regardless of how much Potency you have, there’s always a 15% chance of the enemy resisting the debuffs.

Not sure why, but it’s apparently WAI.

I don't know where you guys got this misinformation, but it is not true. There is no lower limit 15% chance to land a debuff. There is a minimum 15% chance to resist a debuff.

When hit with a debuff, the defender has a chance to resist the effect: R = T-P ≥ 15%

This means there is always at least a 15% chance to resist. R can be increased by improving T. This tactic is of course countered by increasing P of the debuffing unit. This means that even if you increase T=100, if the attacker P=85, then the chance to resist is still only R=15.

In your case, Ezra has T≈180% and the opposing Vader has P≈100%. Therefore, chance to resist is R=180%-100%=80%. There is still a 20% chance for Vader to land debuffs. Considering Vader Force Crush throws out 4 debuffs (3 DoT and 1 Speed Down) to each of your 5 guys, that's 20 effects he just attempted to lay down, and only 3 of them stuck. 3/20 = 15%

So RNG was on your side this time because only 3 debuffs landed.

You want buff immunity? Use Grand Master Yoda's Battle Meditation move and gain the Tenacity Up effect.

beasttx1985 · July 24, 2018 1:12AM

EventineElessedil wrote: »

Yerff_Caasi wrote: »

I saw in a game changer video that regardless of how much tenacity you have, there’s always a 15% chance of getting debuffed, and regardless of how much Potency you have, there’s always a 15% chance of the enemy resisting the debuffs.

Not sure why, but it’s apparently WAI.

I don't know where you guys got this misinformation, but it is not true. There is no lower limit 15% chance to land a debuff. There is a minimum 15% chance to resist a debuff.

When hit with a debuff, the defender has a chance to resist the effect: R = T-P ≥ 15%

This means there is always at least a 15% chance to resist. R can be increased by improving T. This tactic is of course countered by increasing P of the debuffing unit. This means that even if you increase T=100, if the attacker P=85, then the chance to resist is still only R=15.

In your case, Ezra has T≈180% and the opposing Vader has P≈100%. Therefore, chance to resist is R=180%-100%=80%. There is still a 20% chance for Vader to land debuffs. Considering Vader Force Crush throws out 4 debuffs (3 DoT and 1 Speed Down) to each of your 5 guys, that's 20 effects he just attempted to lay down, and only 3 of them stuck. 3/20 = 15%

So RNG was on your side this time because only 3 debuffs landed.

You want buff immunity? Use Grand Master Yoda's Battle Meditation move and gain the Tenacity Up effect.

Nice info man. He actually had a buff hit my taunting tank but he culling bladed it away.

I really appreciate your explanation man.

Poxx · July 24, 2018 6:40AM

EventineElessedil wrote: »

Yerff_Caasi wrote: »

I saw in a game changer video that regardless of how much tenacity you have, there’s always a 15% chance of getting debuffed, and regardless of how much Potency you have, there’s always a 15% chance of the enemy resisting the debuffs.

Not sure why, but it’s apparently WAI.

I don't know where you guys got this misinformation, but it is not true. There is no lower limit 15% chance to land a debuff. There is a minimum 15% chance to resist a debuff.

When hit with a debuff, the defender has a chance to resist the effect: R = T-P ≥ 15%

This means there is always at least a 15% chance to resist. R can be increased by improving T. This tactic is of course countered by increasing P of the debuffing unit. This means that even if you increase T=100, if the attacker P=85, then the chance to resist is still only R=15.

In your case, Ezra has T≈180% and the opposing Vader has P≈100%. Therefore, chance to resist is R=180%-100%=80%. There is still a 20% chance for Vader to land debuffs. Considering Vader Force Crush throws out 4 debuffs (3 DoT and 1 Speed Down) to each of your 5 guys, that's 20 effects he just attempted to lay down, and only 3 of them stuck. 3/20 = 15%

So RNG was on your side this time because only 3 debuffs landed.

You want buff immunity? Use Grand Master Yoda's Battle Meditation move and gain the Tenacity Up effect.

You failed to take into account the bolster AI receives that they refuse to acknoeledge.

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