We all clearly see that new content is being pushed out, but is there any plan to provide content for those non-whales? So far we have galatic legends and new tiers that many won't be able to come close to in quite a while.
We all clearly see that new content is being pushed out, but is there any plan to provide content for those non-whales? So far we have galatic legends and new tiers that many won't be able to come close to in quite a while.
What new content?? We haven't had new content since the Sith Raid. Everything since has just been skins of existing content. Geonocian territory wars, gear 13, relics, galactic legends is all just add one of existing content.And if the new mega bundle of the difficulty of light side geonocian territory battles hasn't drilled it in. CG doesn't care about free players.
What new content?? We haven't had new content since the Sith Raid.
By your logic, that's not new content either. It's just a reskin of the tank raid, which was just a reskin of the pit raid. Don't forget ships, which are just a reskin of squads.
What new content?? We haven't had new content since the Sith Raid. Everything since has just been skins of existing content. Geonocian territory wars, gear 13, relics, galactic legends is all just add one of existing content.And if the new mega bundle of the difficulty of light side geonocian territory battles hasn't drilled it in. CG doesn't care about free players.
If all those things are just reskins, what exactly would you consider to be “content?”
What new content?? We haven't had new content since the Sith Raid. Everything since has just been skins of existing content. Geonocian territory wars, gear 13, relics, galactic legends is all just add one of existing content.And if the new mega bundle of the difficulty of light side geonocian territory battles hasn't drilled it in. CG doesn't care about free players.
If all those things are just reskins, what exactly would you consider to be “content?”
What new content?? We haven't had new content since the Sith Raid. Everything since has just been skins of existing content. Geonocian territory wars, gear 13, relics, galactic legends is all just add one of existing content.And if the new mega bundle of the difficulty of light side geonocian territory battles hasn't drilled it in. CG doesn't care about free players.
If all those things are just reskins, what exactly would you consider to be “content?”
What new content?? We haven't had new content since the Sith Raid. Everything since has just been skins of existing content. Geonocian territory wars, gear 13, relics, galactic legends is all just add one of existing content.And if the new mega bundle of the difficulty of light side geonocian territory battles hasn't drilled it in. CG doesn't care about free players.
If all those things are just reskins, what exactly would you consider to be “content?”
What new content?? We haven't had new content since the Sith Raid. Everything since has just been skins of existing content. Geonocian territory wars, gear 13, relics, galactic legends is all just add one of existing content.And if the new mega bundle of the difficulty of light side geonocian territory battles hasn't drilled it in. CG doesn't care about free players.
If all those things are just reskins, what exactly would you consider to be “content?”
We all clearly see that new content is being pushed out, but is there any plan to provide content for those non-whales? So far we have galatic legends and new tiers that many won't be able to come close to in quite a while.
The good news is that none of it is really new content, so the whales won't be happy either. New tiers of something we already have and a one and done event is hardly new compelling content...
Sorry but that new content is not just for whales.
Having all required toons at relic 5-7 is not whale level? I suppose if you started 4 years ago it may not be, but for anyone who started later on it is not accessible anytime soon.
We all clearly see that new content is being pushed out, but is there any plan to provide content for those non-whales? So far we have galatic legends and new tiers that many won't be able to come close to in quite a while.
Sorry but that new content is not just for whales.
Having all required toons at relic 5-7 is not whale level? I suppose if you started 4 years ago it may not be, but for anyone who started later on it is not accessible anytime soon.
People can’t expect to do everything in a four year old game early on.
Why wasn't Cobb Vanth shards a reward for the Krayt Dragon raid? Why wasn't Endor Gear Luke shards a reward for the Speeder Bike raid?
What new content?? We haven't had new content since the Sith Raid. Everything since has just been skins of existing content. Geonocian territory wars, gear 13, relics, galactic legends is all just add one of existing content.And if the new mega bundle of the difficulty of light side geonocian territory battles hasn't drilled it in. CG doesn't care about free players.
That is not what "reskin" means.
A reskin is purely cosmetic. But literally every unit you fight in the mode and every faction and platoon bonus is mechanically different. It's the same format, yes. It's a territory battle. Of course it's the same format. But it is absolutely not a reskin and that people keep calling it that is astoundingly ignorant.
Everything that goes into the game is content. New advancement? That's content. New fights? That's also content. Even if it's adding onto something that was already there, it's still new content. New units? That is also content.
People need to stop No True Scotsman fallacying their way into pretending we aren't getting content. Just because you choose to be obstinate and turn your nose up at the new content does not change the fact that it is content.
Having all required toons at relic 5-7 is not whale level? I suppose if you started 4 years ago it may not be, but for anyone who started later on it is not accessible anytime soon.
Just because you don't have the necessary stuff RIGHT NOW does not mean it's whale only content. This is a in large part a long term resource management and roster building game. By adding a new unit who has a high bar to qualify for in terms of roster building, it creates a goal to work toward long term.
Set goals. Prioritize resources. Achieve goals. That's the cycle. Only difference is time.
And this event is an open timeframe. You aren't bound to a three month event rotation. Get the relics as quickly or as slowly as you please, and when you're ready tackle the event and get the legends, whether you're a whale or F2P. You do not need everything right now.
What new content?? We haven't had new content since the Sith Raid. Everything since has just been skins of existing content. Geonocian territory wars, gear 13, relics, galactic legends is all just add one of existing content.And if the new mega bundle of the difficulty of light side geonocian territory battles hasn't drilled it in. CG doesn't care about free players.
If all those things are just reskins, what exactly would you consider to be “content?”
The answer is: a Raid. And from there the playerbase splits into ship raid or I hate ships. The reskin argument needs to go away. It’s not changing Disney’s tried and true method of reskin/rebooting used content, and therefore it’s CGs method for adding anything into the game.
I am surprised they only gave us 1 working Assault Battle Upgrade. How long did that one event take them to “adjust”?
I agree. I kept hoping for a new raid. But they just arent listening.
What new content?? We haven't had new content since the Sith Raid. Everything since has just been skins of existing content. Geonocian territory wars, gear 13, relics, galactic legends is all just add one of existing content.And if the new mega bundle of the difficulty of light side geonocian territory battles hasn't drilled it in. CG doesn't care about free players.
That is not what "reskin" means.
A reskin is purely cosmetic. But literally every unit you fight in the mode and every faction and platoon bonus is mechanically different. It's the same format, yes. It's a territory battle. Of course it's the same format. But it is absolutely not a reskin and that people keep calling it that is astoundingly ignorant.
Everything that goes into the game is content. New advancement? That's content. New fights? That's also content. Even if it's adding onto something that was already there, it's still new content. New units? That is also content.
People need to stop No True Scotsman fallacying their way into pretending we aren't getting content. Just because you choose to be obstinate and turn your nose up at the new content does not change the fact that it is content.
Having all required toons at relic 5-7 is not whale level? I suppose if you started 4 years ago it may not be, but for anyone who started later on it is not accessible anytime soon.
Just because you don't have the necessary stuff RIGHT NOW does not mean it's whale only content. This is a in large part a long term resource management and roster building game. By adding a new unit who has a high bar to qualify for in terms of roster building, it creates a goal to work toward long term.
Set goals. Prioritize resources. Achieve goals. That's the cycle. Only difference is time.
And this event is an open timeframe. You aren't bound to a three month event rotation. Get the relics as quickly or as slowly as you please, and when you're ready tackle the event and get the legends, whether you're a whale or F2P. You do not need everything right now.
Not to mention the benefit of knowing so far in advance what you will need. Even if you can't get it right away, you have HUGE advantage of knowing. I still remember not getting CLS first time because I didn't farm Old Ben. Newer players have a much easier time of plotting a course for success.
Just because a new toon is released, doesn't mean you need or deserve it.
To everyone arguing that the newer stuff isn't just for whales, you're right. It's also for FTP longer term players. But if you started a FTP account within, what, a year? You can't even touch these things likely the Geo TBs are out of play, the assault battle tiers most definitely are, and you sure as hell aren't going to have 13 First Order or Resistance characters at r5 either.
Yeah, that means they have the old game stuff to do, but human nature means people want to be involved in newer things and not be stuck way behind everyone else particularly in a game like this where "behind everyone else" means years behind.
I don't necessarily have a solution, but a new raid or brand new assault battle with multiple tiers is a potential answer.
To everyone arguing that the newer stuff isn't just for whales, you're right. It's also for FTP longer term players. But if you started a FTP account within, what, a year? You can't even touch these things likely the Geo TBs are out of play, the assault battle tiers most definitely are, and you sure as hell aren't going to have 13 First Order or Resistance characters at r5 either.
Yeah, that means they have the old game stuff to do, but human nature means people want to be involved in newer things and not be stuck way behind everyone else particularly in a game like this where "behind everyone else" means years behind.
I don't necessarily have a solution, but a new raid or brand new assault battle with multiple tiers is a potential answer.
Why do you think new players are entitled to the same things that whales or long term players are?
Should new players not have to spend a similar amount or play a similar amount of time?
Should all the money whales spent, or time long term players be totally negated so that a new person can be equal?
It is, in fact, much easier to catch up than it ever has been, but you don't hear whales complaining. Get over yourself and realize that time and money spent matters and nobody owes you anything just for coming to the party late.
To everyone arguing that the newer stuff isn't just for whales, you're right. It's also for FTP longer term players. But if you started a FTP account within, what, a year? You can't even touch these things likely the Geo TBs are out of play, the assault battle tiers most definitely are, and you sure as hell aren't going to have 13 First Order or Resistance characters at r5 either.
Sounds a little bit like lvl10 new player complaning that one cannot go to lvl 100 vetetan dungen and play with lvl100 playets who spent years to reach that lvl...
"old" players spent month and month of sitting on Hoth. Than they lvl up to Geo.
Each lvl group has its own playground....
Sorry but that new content is not just for whales.
Having all required toons at relic 5-7 is not whale level? I suppose if you started 4 years ago it may not be, but for anyone who started later on it is not accessible anytime soon.
you are correct. having chars at those levels is hard for people that have been playing since 2015, and basically impossible for people who started not too long ago. which is fine. We at like we want everything NOW but imagine if you could start a game and have everything day 1 (or day 100, etc). Progression is the name of the game, and you have to earn your rosters. People starting today have a massive advantage in terms of knowledge compared to us who started back in the day, and can already progress faster than we did. It's a grind but the effort pays off. glgl
To everyone arguing that the newer stuff isn't just for whales, you're right. It's also for FTP longer term players. But if you started a FTP account within, what, a year? You can't even touch these things likely the Geo TBs are out of play, the assault battle tiers most definitely are, and you sure as hell aren't going to have 13 First Order or Resistance characters at r5 either.
Yeah, that means they have the old game stuff to do, but human nature means people want to be involved in newer things and not be stuck way behind everyone else particularly in a game like this where "behind everyone else" means years behind.
I wouldn't expect that account to do particularly well in Heroic Sith either. Does that mean Heroic Sith is whales-and-veterans-only? I guess maybe it does, but I don't think there's a "fix" for this. You gotta build up your roster to qualify for harder content. That's just how it works.
Also, those players have the option to aim directly for the new stuff if they really want to. I wouldn't suggest going straight for Galactic Legend Rey as a new player, but if you really wanted to make that your first goal in the game, there's no rule saying you can't.
An issue with claiming that new content is whale only content for the next 6 months is that it implies that content that was released 6 months ago is fresh new content for F2P
So the last 6 month old whale only content should be a fresh NEW content for F2P
Whales get to enjoy GL as new content and F2P get to enjoy GAS as new content
When CG releases some other whale only content in October, you can enjoy fresh new GL content then
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Isn’t that what the Journey Guide is for?
By your logic, that's not new content either. It's just a reskin of the tank raid, which was just a reskin of the pit raid. Don't forget ships, which are just a reskin of squads.
If all those things are just reskins, what exactly would you consider to be “content?”
The first game to ever exist in the world.
As everything else is just a reskin of it
All games are reskins of tic-tac-toe confirmed
Tic-tac-toe was not the first game in the scroll.
The good news is that none of it is really new content, so the whales won't be happy either. New tiers of something we already have and a one and done event is hardly new compelling content...
Having all required toons at relic 5-7 is not whale level? I suppose if you started 4 years ago it may not be, but for anyone who started later on it is not accessible anytime soon.
The lengths some people will go to to turn themselves into the victim.
We just got new levels to forest moon and places of power (when it works).
If that isn't content then you're beyond help.
We’re all just reskinned atoms
People can’t expect to do everything in a four year old game early on.
A reskin is purely cosmetic. But literally every unit you fight in the mode and every faction and platoon bonus is mechanically different. It's the same format, yes. It's a territory battle. Of course it's the same format. But it is absolutely not a reskin and that people keep calling it that is astoundingly ignorant.
Everything that goes into the game is content. New advancement? That's content. New fights? That's also content. Even if it's adding onto something that was already there, it's still new content. New units? That is also content.
People need to stop No True Scotsman fallacying their way into pretending we aren't getting content. Just because you choose to be obstinate and turn your nose up at the new content does not change the fact that it is content. Just because you don't have the necessary stuff RIGHT NOW does not mean it's whale only content. This is a in large part a long term resource management and roster building game. By adding a new unit who has a high bar to qualify for in terms of roster building, it creates a goal to work toward long term.
Set goals. Prioritize resources. Achieve goals. That's the cycle. Only difference is time.
And this event is an open timeframe. You aren't bound to a three month event rotation. Get the relics as quickly or as slowly as you please, and when you're ready tackle the event and get the legends, whether you're a whale or F2P. You do not need everything right now.
I agree. I kept hoping for a new raid. But they just arent listening.
Not to mention the benefit of knowing so far in advance what you will need. Even if you can't get it right away, you have HUGE advantage of knowing. I still remember not getting CLS first time because I didn't farm Old Ben. Newer players have a much easier time of plotting a course for success.
Just because a new toon is released, doesn't mean you need or deserve it.
Yeah, that means they have the old game stuff to do, but human nature means people want to be involved in newer things and not be stuck way behind everyone else particularly in a game like this where "behind everyone else" means years behind.
I don't necessarily have a solution, but a new raid or brand new assault battle with multiple tiers is a potential answer.
Why do you think new players are entitled to the same things that whales or long term players are?
Should new players not have to spend a similar amount or play a similar amount of time?
Should all the money whales spent, or time long term players be totally negated so that a new person can be equal?
It is, in fact, much easier to catch up than it ever has been, but you don't hear whales complaining. Get over yourself and realize that time and money spent matters and nobody owes you anything just for coming to the party late.
Sounds a little bit like lvl10 new player complaning that one cannot go to lvl 100 vetetan dungen and play with lvl100 playets who spent years to reach that lvl...
"old" players spent month and month of sitting on Hoth. Than they lvl up to Geo.
Each lvl group has its own playground....
you are correct. having chars at those levels is hard for people that have been playing since 2015, and basically impossible for people who started not too long ago. which is fine. We at like we want everything NOW but imagine if you could start a game and have everything day 1 (or day 100, etc). Progression is the name of the game, and you have to earn your rosters. People starting today have a massive advantage in terms of knowledge compared to us who started back in the day, and can already progress faster than we did. It's a grind but the effort pays off. glgl
I wouldn't expect that account to do particularly well in Heroic Sith either. Does that mean Heroic Sith is whales-and-veterans-only? I guess maybe it does, but I don't think there's a "fix" for this. You gotta build up your roster to qualify for harder content. That's just how it works.
Also, those players have the option to aim directly for the new stuff if they really want to. I wouldn't suggest going straight for Galactic Legend Rey as a new player, but if you really wanted to make that your first goal in the game, there's no rule saying you can't.
So the last 6 month old whale only content should be a fresh NEW content for F2P
Whales get to enjoy GL as new content and F2P get to enjoy GAS as new content
When CG releases some other whale only content in October, you can enjoy fresh new GL content then
I am a reskinned supernova. Watch me shine!