Are Phoenix immune to Plague??

jawa7778 · February 20, 2020 11:12PM

I recently put my Nightsister squad against an enemy Phoenix squad in Grand Arena. Mother Talzin has omegas applied to all three abilities that require them. Whenever I used Mother Talzin's AOE that applies plague, I would do damage, but I wouldn't apply any stacks of plague? I'm 99% sure Phoenix isn't immune to plague, but why wouldn't I be applying plague?

littleMAC77 · February 20, 2020 11:16PM

Low potency or High tenacity

TheJEFFtm · February 20, 2020 11:17PM

Probably Kaanan’s Clear Mind unique (shared with Hera lead), whenever they suffer a debuff, they heal 25%. So plague might flash on them, but then they heal to 100%, clearing it.

So functionally imunne, unless you do 26% or more damage to their health when applying, or until Kaanan is gone.

LeriloSkait · February 20, 2020 11:17PM

Probably because of Kanans unique, which grands health for debuffs on Phoenix allies cuz' of Heras lead, sooo they loose health, they get plague, they receive health due to Plague being a debuff and get full health again, so they loose Plague.

That'd be my guess~

jawa7778 · February 20, 2020 11:23PM

TheJEFFtm wrote: »

Probably Kaanan’s Clear Mind unique (shared with Hera lead), whenever they suffer a debuff, they heal 25%. So plague might flash on them, but then they heal to 100%, clearing it.

So functionally imunne, unless you do 26% or more damage to their health when applying, or until Kaanan is gone.

LeriloSkait wrote: »

Probably because of Kanans unique, which grands health for debuffs on Phoenix allies cuz' of Heras lead, sooo they loose health, they get plague, they receive health due to Plague being a debuff and get full health again, so they loose Plague.

That'd be my guess~

Ah, okay. That makes sense. Thanks.

Mephisto_style · February 20, 2020 11:29PM

Sometimes people put all tenacity mods on a synergy team to make it an anti-debuff team that works. It is actually incredibly smart, especially with Phoenix.

jawa7778 · February 20, 2020 11:30PM

Mephisto_style wrote: »

Sometimes people put all tenacity mods on a synergy team to make it an anti-debuff team that works. It is actually incredibly smart, especially with Phoenix.

Can you elaborate a little?

Mephisto_style · February 20, 2020 11:31PM

TheJEFFtm wrote: »

Probably Kaanan’s Clear Mind unique (shared with Hera lead), whenever they suffer a debuff, they heal 25%. So plague might flash on them, but then they heal to 100%, clearing it.

So functionally imunne, unless you do 26% or more damage to their health when applying, or until Kaanan is gone.

Wait wait wait!!!! I call ****. I never hear of NS being a viable counter to NS. Is there something that breaks this against Phoenix if it is true?

Kemosabe73 · February 21, 2020 12:17AM

Prior to g13, Phoenix were actually a soft counter to NS teams, if equally geared. They did require all the zetas in the Phoenix team to work however, but still never hurts to have another team that can take down NS

TVF · February 21, 2020 12:21AM

Mephisto_style wrote: »

TheJEFFtm wrote: »

Probably Kaanan’s Clear Mind unique (shared with Hera lead), whenever they suffer a debuff, they heal 25%. So plague might flash on them, but then they heal to 100%, clearing it.

So functionally imunne, unless you do 26% or more damage to their health when applying, or until Kaanan is gone.

Wait wait wait!!!! I call ****. I never hear of NS being a viable counter to NS. Is there something that breaks this against Phoenix if it is true?

You don't believe their kits?

Vendi1983 · February 21, 2020 12:47AM

Daze-expose-stun train, auto-heal, mass-cleanse, two decent damage dealers, dispel. Makes sense.

TheJEFFtm · February 21, 2020 1:11AM

Mephisto_style wrote: »

TheJEFFtm wrote: »

Probably Kaanan’s Clear Mind unique (shared with Hera lead), whenever they suffer a debuff, they heal 25%. So plague might flash on them, but then they heal to 100%, clearing it.

So functionally imunne, unless you do 26% or more damage to their health when applying, or until Kaanan is gone.

Wait wait wait!!!! I call ****. I never hear of NS being a viable counter to NS. Is there something that breaks this against Phoenix if it is true?

Where did I claim anything about using sisters on sisters? (Though of course, you can win a mirror match by outplaying the AI if you are roughly equal or better in gear and mods)

The most you could take from my statement is that an underprepared or misplayed NS team might time out against Phoenix due to not being able to land plague - though as stated above, a boss Phoenix can soft counter sisters.

Mephisto_style · February 21, 2020 3:20AM

TVF wrote: »

Mephisto_style wrote: »

TheJEFFtm wrote: »

Probably Kaanan’s Clear Mind unique (shared with Hera lead), whenever they suffer a debuff, they heal 25%. So plague might flash on them, but then they heal to 100%, clearing it.

So functionally imunne, unless you do 26% or more damage to their health when applying, or until Kaanan is gone.

Wait wait wait!!!! I call ****. I never hear of NS being a viable counter to NS. Is there something that breaks this against Phoenix if it is true?

You don't believe their kits?

Alcohol-induced reading comprehension issues

Mephisto_style · February 21, 2020 3:21AM

TheJEFFtm wrote: »

Mephisto_style wrote: »

TheJEFFtm wrote: »

Probably Kaanan’s Clear Mind unique (shared with Hera lead), whenever they suffer a debuff, they heal 25%. So plague might flash on them, but then they heal to 100%, clearing it.

So functionally imunne, unless you do 26% or more damage to their health when applying, or until Kaanan is gone.

Wait wait wait!!!! I call ****. I never hear of NS being a viable counter to NS. Is there something that breaks this against Phoenix if it is true?

Where did I claim anything about using sisters on sisters? (Though of course, you can win a mirror match by outplaying the AI if you are roughly equal or better in gear and mods)

The most you could take from my statement is that an underprepared or misplayed NS team might time out against Phoenix due to not being able to land plague - though as stated above, a boss Phoenix can soft counter sisters.

My bad, meant Phoenix counter to NS.

Nihion · February 21, 2020 4:36AM

Lol whut is this thred

CCyrilS · February 21, 2020 5:40AM

Nihion wrote: »

Lol whut is this thred

Forum gold

Nihion · February 21, 2020 5:48AM

CCyrilS wrote: »

Nihion wrote: »

Lol whut is this thred

Forum gold

Tru

Gifafi · February 21, 2020 5:54AM

NS is a great counter to NS imo

Penguin_Tzar · February 21, 2020 12:31PM

If you heal to 100 percent health, you lose plague

Mephisto_style · February 21, 2020 2:08PM

Gifafi wrote: »

NS is a great counter to NS imo

Hmmm, that makes sense. I just hate upping teams that don't have pilots.

MomoTheNinja · February 23, 2020 5:41AM

TheJEFFtm wrote: »

Probably Kaanan’s Clear Mind unique (shared with Hera lead), whenever they suffer a debuff, they heal 25%. So plague might flash on them, but then they heal to 100%, clearing it.

So functionally imunne, unless you do 26% or more damage to their health when applying, or until Kaanan is gone.

This same mechanic makes them pretty good against Carth teams. All the DOTS just keep healing the Phoenix, and they counter the OR characters to death.

Schwartzring · February 23, 2020 5:51AM

MomoTheNinja wrote: »

This same mechanic makes them pretty good against Carth teams. All the DOTS just keep healing the Phoenix, and they counter the OR characters to death.

Interesting. I like the way you think.

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