I'd also add that Snoke was the Main antagonist for both TFA and TLJ, yet other toons take priority in this game such as CUP or other irrelevant "no name" characters.
Additionally Rose Tico, although had more screen time (like that matters) essentially does nothing. She accompanies Fynn to a casino planet to ride Rabbit/Horse things, gets captured, then stops Fynn by preventing the FO's assault. That's it. Ya, lets make her a Relic 5 requirement! Because that is such a good idea, lol.
As usual, you have completely missed a characters point in the story.
Nobody gives 2 **** about Snoke or anyone for that matter from the new trash Disney trilogy!! Rian Johnson made sure of that after the last Jedi
I give and about 50% of star wars community do,
There are better than the prequels by a mile
The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker were definitely both better than The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones (except in creativity).
The Force Awakens was slightly better than Revenge of the Sith, although they were both very good in my opinion (Revenge of the Sith was much more creative and had a LOT more lore to it, but The Force Awakens had more suspense).
However, the Last Jedi was trash. That should be obvious. See my 8 paragraph rant (second post above this) for more clarification if you do not agree. Out of all of the Star Wars films, it would probably be the second worst in my opinion (the worst being Solo: A Star Wars Story, and the third worst being The Phantom Menace).
Look, you have to understand that the prequels were very good in their own way. They were by far the most creative of the films, especially the third film, and they established a TON of lore (although obviously the original films established the most lore). And unlike the Disney trilogy, the prequels weren't 3/4 copied off of the plot of the original films!
Prequels are the WORST of Canon Star Wars Media, they have some moments, but still. My Opinion
Also I love TLJ and would love Snoke in Game
I made a reply to this that had some links in in, so it said that it "had to be approved" or something along those lines.
If you want, look at this just as some filler in the mean time.
Just a forewarning there is some colorful language in it.
Look up the video:
"The Last Jedi Action. Worse Than You Remember". It is by a youtuber named Robot Head.
also watch his video "Disney Doesn't Understand Lightsabers". I wont post it here because his language is even more colorful that the above video, but you can feel free to watch it yourself.
It's called Opinion. I Like Sequels(Even Love) and you dont have too
Did you watch the video? Come back and say you "I like sequels" after watching it. Go on. Watch it.
But at the end of the day, remember that this is Disney's fault, not Lucas Films. Disney ruined Star Wars... first they make the worst two Star Wars films EVER, 'The Last Jedi' and 'Solo: A Star Wars Story', and then they make a Star Wars tv show on their rather expensive streaming service that was made ONLY to make more money via selling Baby Yoda merchandise.
Sorry but Lucas made his movies to sell toys. Disney didn't even have any "Baby Yoda" merchandise ready until after people went online crying for some.
Once again, I like TLJ. Don't understand the hate it gets.
First off, Lucas did NOT make his movies to sell toys. Neither the originals nor the prequels were ever done for that purpose. The movies that DISNEY made, the sequels and Solo, WERE made to sell toys.
Also, if you don't understand the hate TLJ gets, watch this video:
"The Last Jedi Action. Worse Than You Remember". It is by a youtuber named Robot Head (just a warning he does drop the f-bomb a few times).
Also understand that Rian Johnson, who made TLJ, started hating on Empire Strikes Back (which is ironic given so much of the visual and creative aspects of TLJ are completely copied off of ESB) and fans who didn't like TLJ as soon as he realized lots of people hated the movie. He would literally single people out via his twitter account and call them things such as "****" and "man baby"...
But at the end of the day, remember that this is Disney's fault, not Lucas Films. Disney ruined Star Wars... first they make the worst two Star Wars films EVER, 'The Last Jedi' and 'Solo: A Star Wars Story', and then they make a Star Wars tv show on their rather expensive streaming service that was made ONLY to make more money via selling Baby Yoda merchandise.
Sorry but Lucas made his movies to sell toys. Disney didn't even have any "Baby Yoda" merchandise ready until after people went online crying for some.
Once again, I like TLJ. Don't understand the hate it gets.
Lucas wrote his stories to sell his stories, not to sell toys.
You think he wrote American Graffiti to sell toys too?
Yet in order to make his movies the studio basically took everything.
Merchandising, such as toys, were based on relevant and continuous things such as tv shows at the time. Making toys for a movie that was in theatres for a few weeks then likely forgotten was unheard of.
So the studio barely had any claim on the merch, so that's what Lucas focused on to make money and grow his companies - Lucasfilm, Skywalker Sound and Industrial Light & Magic.
Check out the season on Netflix "The Toys That Made Us" - first episode is Star Warts, and its really cool/interesting.
Every Star Wars movie merchandises. The purpose of Lucas's Star Wars movies weren't to merchandize though... Lucas was more interested in creating the story than the toys he could sell... he just wanted to keep making movies. That's why he made the original Star Wars films, to make a "high-adventure film for younger audiences". Exact quote may be a bit off but thats what he said as a guest during a talk show interview after Empire Strikes Back was a success. He made the prequels because he wanted to be able to expand on the lore he created, which is why Lucasfilms explicitly stated that no cannon writers were allowed to write material about the Clone Wars until the prequel movies were all released.
On the other hand, Disney DOES make movies just to make money. They don't care whether or not the movies are good, just as long as they make enough money. Notice the HUGE amount of official Star Wars toys on the market as soon as Disney's first Star Wars film was released.
But at the end of the day, remember that this is Disney's fault, not Lucas Films. Disney ruined Star Wars... first they make the worst two Star Wars films EVER, 'The Last Jedi' and 'Solo: A Star Wars Story', and then they make a Star Wars tv show on their rather expensive streaming service that was made ONLY to make more money via selling Baby Yoda merchandise.
Sorry but Lucas made his movies to sell toys. Disney didn't even have any "Baby Yoda" merchandise ready until after people went online crying for some.
Once again, I like TLJ. Don't understand the hate it gets.
Lucas wrote his stories to sell his stories, not to sell toys.
You think he wrote American Graffiti to sell toys too?
In Episode 6, they were supposed to be a Planet of Wookies, but lucas Changed for Ewoks to sell toys
How do you know he changed it to sell toys? He left a lot of stuff out of the original films, including the Emperor's backstory, so that he could expand on in the prequels. Maybe he already had Kashyyyk in mind for the Wookies when it was suggested to him by his fellow writers to make the forest moon of Endor a Wookie planet...
well, if you actually have any evidence to make the claim "lucas Changed for Ewoks to sell toys" then that would clear things up. If you actually do have any, then post it here.
Nobody gives 2 **** about Snoke or anyone for that matter from the new trash Disney trilogy!! Rian Johnson made sure of that after the last Jedi
I give and about 50% of star wars community do,
There are better than the prequels by a mile
The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker were definitely both better than The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones (except in creativity).
The Force Awakens was slightly better than Revenge of the Sith, although they were both very good in my opinion (Revenge of the Sith was much more creative and had a LOT more lore to it, but The Force Awakens had more suspense).
However, the Last Jedi was trash. That should be obvious. See my 8 paragraph rant (second post above this) for more clarification if you do not agree. Out of all of the Star Wars films, it would probably be the second worst in my opinion (the worst being Solo: A Star Wars Story, and the third worst being The Phantom Menace).
Look, you have to understand that the prequels were very good in their own way. They were by far the most creative of the films, especially the third film, and they established a TON of lore (although obviously the original films established the most lore). And unlike the Disney trilogy, the prequels weren't 3/4 copied off of the plot of the original films!
Prequels are the WORST of Canon Star Wars Media, they have some moments, but still. My Opinion
Also I love TLJ and would love Snoke in Game
I made a reply to this that had some links in in, so it said that it "had to be approved" or something along those lines.
If you want, look at this just as some filler in the mean time.
Just a forewarning there is some colorful language in it.
Look up the video:
"The Last Jedi Action. Worse Than You Remember". It is by a youtuber named Robot Head.
also watch his video "Disney Doesn't Understand Lightsabers". I wont post it here because his language is even more colorful that the above video, but you can feel free to watch it yourself.
It's called Opinion. I Like Sequels(Even Love) and you dont have too
Did you watch the video? Come back and say you "I like sequels" after watching it. Go on. Watch it.
I watched it and Love Sequels.
But at least do you understand the flaws of the sequels now? Maybe watching movies such as the originals and the prequels would help remind you what Star Wars was SUPPOSED to be, instead of watching the films Disney created to make money off of the Star Wars fanbase.
I'd also add that Snoke was the Main antagonist for both TFA and TLJ, yet other toons take priority in this game such as CUP or other irrelevant "no name" characters.
Additionally Rose Tico, although had more screen time (like that matters) essentially does nothing. She accompanies Fynn to a casino planet to ride Rabbit/Horse things, gets captured, then stops Fynn by preventing the FO's assault. That's it. Ya, lets make her a Relic 5 requirement! Because that is such a good idea, lol.
As usual, you have completely missed a characters point in the story.
Nope. Why have CUP in this game and no main antagonist for 2 movies with Snoke - I think you missed the point, lol.
But at the end of the day, remember that this is Disney's fault, not Lucas Films. Disney ruined Star Wars... first they make the worst two Star Wars films EVER, 'The Last Jedi' and 'Solo: A Star Wars Story', and then they make a Star Wars tv show on their rather expensive streaming service that was made ONLY to make more money via selling Baby Yoda merchandise.
Sorry but Lucas made his movies to sell toys. Disney didn't even have any "Baby Yoda" merchandise ready until after people went online crying for some.
Once again, I like TLJ. Don't understand the hate it gets.
Lucas wrote his stories to sell his stories, not to sell toys.
You think he wrote American Graffiti to sell toys too?
In Episode 6, they were supposed to be a Planet of Wookies, but lucas Changed for Ewoks to sell toys
That is incorrect. Lucas wanted a primitive race of beings to go toe to toe against the Empire in regard to the "David & Goliath" lesson he was going for. He had already established Wookiees as a sophisticated race through Chewbacca.
Additionally, when the Special Editions first made it to DVD, a documentary on the ROTJ disc stated that finding Peter Mayhew for the Wookiee, Chewbacca, was a trial. Finding many persons tall enough was challenging during the production for ROTJ - therefore this was another reason why Lucas went with "short" rather than "tall".
Sadly I cannot remember the name of this documentary, but this additional reasoning behind the change is out there - and shouldn't be too difficult to find, especially if you have those DVDs.
Anything from a marketing standpoint was a bonus, it had nothing to do with toys that ultimately affected his decision.
But at the end of the day, remember that this is Disney's fault, not Lucas Films. Disney ruined Star Wars... first they make the worst two Star Wars films EVER, 'The Last Jedi' and 'Solo: A Star Wars Story', and then they make a Star Wars tv show on their rather expensive streaming service that was made ONLY to make more money via selling Baby Yoda merchandise.
Sorry but Lucas made his movies to sell toys. Disney didn't even have any "Baby Yoda" merchandise ready until after people went online crying for some.
Once again, I like TLJ. Don't understand the hate it gets.
Lucas wrote his stories to sell his stories, not to sell toys.
You think he wrote American Graffiti to sell toys too?
Yet in order to make his movies the studio basically took everything.
Merchandising, such as toys, were based on relevant and continuous things such as tv shows at the time. Making toys for a movie that was in theatres for a few weeks then likely forgotten was unheard of.
So the studio barely had any claim on the merch, so that's what Lucas focused on to make money and grow his companies - Lucasfilm, Skywalker Sound and Industrial Light & Magic.
Check out the season on Netflix "The Toys That Made Us" - first episode is Star Warts, and its really cool/interesting.
Every Star Wars movie merchandises. The purpose of Lucas's Star Wars movies weren't to merchandize though... Lucas was more interested in creating the story than the toys he could sell... he just wanted to keep making movies. That's why he made the original Star Wars films, to make a "high-adventure film for younger audiences". Exact quote may be a bit off but thats what he said as a guest during a talk show interview after Empire Strikes Back was a success. He made the prequels because he wanted to be able to expand on the lore he created, which is why Lucasfilms explicitly stated that no cannon writers were allowed to write material about the Clone Wars until the prequel movies were all released.
On the other hand, Disney DOES make movies just to make money. They don't care whether or not the movies are good, just as long as they make enough money. Notice the HUGE amount of official Star Wars toys on the market as soon as Disney's first Star Wars film was released.
I agree with you. Even come the PT, merchandise bombed, despite Lucas making Anikan relateable to little kids and adding Jar Jar as childlike comedy value, the only toys that really sold were Obi Wan, Qui-Gon and Maul - the rest of the movie had too much politics (which was a good thing as far as I am concerned as it shaped the story of the PT), but due to too much politics Hasbro struggled to make "interesting" toys to market.
That is all fact - goes to show Lucas dropped some toy ideas for merch, but was more focused on telling his story.
I'd also add that Snoke was the Main antagonist for both TFA and TLJ, yet other toons take priority in this game such as CUP or other irrelevant "no name" characters.
Additionally Rose Tico, although had more screen time (like that matters) essentially does nothing. She accompanies Fynn to a casino planet to ride Rabbit/Horse things, gets captured, then stops Fynn by preventing the FO's assault. That's it. Ya, lets make her a Relic 5 requirement! Because that is such a good idea, lol.
As usual, you have completely missed a characters point in the story.
Nope. Why have CUP in this game and no main antagonist for 2 movies with Snoke - I think you missed the point, lol.
You have now completely ignored my point, which had nothing to do with Snoke.
I'd also add that Snoke was the Main antagonist for both TFA and TLJ, yet other toons take priority in this game such as CUP or other irrelevant "no name" characters.
Additionally Rose Tico, although had more screen time (like that matters) essentially does nothing. She accompanies Fynn to a casino planet to ride Rabbit/Horse things, gets captured, then stops Fynn by preventing the FO's assault. That's it. Ya, lets make her a Relic 5 requirement! Because that is such a good idea, lol.
As usual, you have completely missed a characters point in the story.
Nope. Why have CUP in this game and no main antagonist for 2 movies with Snoke - I think you missed the point, lol.
You have now completely ignored my point, which had nothing to do with Snoke.
Then you completely ignored my point, which is what I just repeated to you.
If your point had nothing to do with Snoke's character and importance in TFA and TLJ as the main antagonist, yet is not represented in this game - why were you responding to my comment?
Make your own point and do not reply to mine, unless you actually intend on replying to what I have said, don't drag me up.
Nobody gives 2 **** about Snoke or anyone for that matter from the new trash Disney trilogy!! Rian Johnson made sure of that after the last Jedi
I give and about 50% of star wars community do,
There are better than the prequels by a mile
The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker were definitely both better than The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones (except in creativity).
The Force Awakens was slightly better than Revenge of the Sith, although they were both very good in my opinion (Revenge of the Sith was much more creative and had a LOT more lore to it, but The Force Awakens had more suspense).
However, the Last Jedi was trash. That should be obvious. See my 8 paragraph rant (second post above this) for more clarification if you do not agree. Out of all of the Star Wars films, it would probably be the second worst in my opinion (the worst being Solo: A Star Wars Story, and the third worst being The Phantom Menace).
Look, you have to understand that the prequels were very good in their own way. They were by far the most creative of the films, especially the third film, and they established a TON of lore (although obviously the original films established the most lore). And unlike the Disney trilogy, the prequels weren't 3/4 copied off of the plot of the original films!
Prequels are the WORST of Canon Star Wars Media, they have some moments, but still. My Opinion
Also I love TLJ and would love Snoke in Game
I made a reply to this that had some links in in, so it said that it "had to be approved" or something along those lines.
If you want, look at this just as some filler in the mean time.
Just a forewarning there is some colorful language in it.
Look up the video:
"The Last Jedi Action. Worse Than You Remember". It is by a youtuber named Robot Head.
also watch his video "Disney Doesn't Understand Lightsabers". I wont post it here because his language is even more colorful that the above video, but you can feel free to watch it yourself.
It's called Opinion. I Like Sequels(Even Love) and you dont have too
Did you watch the video? Come back and say you "I like sequels" after watching it. Go on. Watch it.
I watched it and Love Sequels.
But at least do you understand the flaws of the sequels now? Maybe watching movies such as the originals and the prequels would help remind you what Star Wars was SUPPOSED to be, instead of watching the films Disney created to make money off of the Star Wars fanbase.
Eh, I Love Everything(Even Prequels, for me they are the Worst) Star Wars Related. What Flaws?
I'd also add that Snoke was the Main antagonist for both TFA and TLJ, yet other toons take priority in this game such as CUP or other irrelevant "no name" characters.
Additionally Rose Tico, although had more screen time (like that matters) essentially does nothing. She accompanies Fynn to a casino planet to ride Rabbit/Horse things, gets captured, then stops Fynn by preventing the FO's assault. That's it. Ya, lets make her a Relic 5 requirement! Because that is such a good idea, lol.
As usual, you have completely missed a characters point in the story.
Nope. Why have CUP in this game and no main antagonist for 2 movies with Snoke - I think you missed the point, lol.
You have now completely ignored my point, which had nothing to do with Snoke.
Then you completely ignored my point, which is what I just repeated to you.
If your point had nothing to do with Snoke's character and importance in TFA and TLJ as the main antagonist, yet is not represented in this game - why were you responding to my comment?
Make your own point and do not reply to mine, unless you actually intend on replying to what I have said, don't drag me up.
I was responding to the other 80% of your post, not the one sentence about Snoke.
But at the end of the day, remember that this is Disney's fault, not Lucas Films. Disney ruined Star Wars... first they make the worst two Star Wars films EVER, 'The Last Jedi' and 'Solo: A Star Wars Story', and then they make a Star Wars tv show on their rather expensive streaming service that was made ONLY to make more money via selling Baby Yoda merchandise.
Sorry but Lucas made his movies to sell toys. Disney didn't even have any "Baby Yoda" merchandise ready until after people went online crying for some.
Once again, I like TLJ. Don't understand the hate it gets.
Lucas wrote his stories to sell his stories, not to sell toys.
You think he wrote American Graffiti to sell toys too?
In Episode 6, they were supposed to be a Planet of Wookies, but lucas Changed for Ewoks to sell toys
How do you know he changed it to sell toys? He left a lot of stuff out of the original films, including the Emperor's backstory, so that he could expand on in the prequels. Maybe he already had Kashyyyk in mind for the Wookies when it was suggested to him by his fellow writers to make the forest moon of Endor a Wookie planet...
well, if you actually have any evidence to make the claim "lucas Changed for Ewoks to sell toys" then that would clear things up. If you actually do have any, then post it here.
He said it in some Interview (https://v1.escapist magazine.com/forums/read/7.225425-Lucas-Cared-More-About-Toys-Says-Star-Wars-Producer)
The reasoning for the Ewoks, I have clearly laid out in an above post.
Merchandising the Ewoks came after the fact, particularly when the Ewok movies were released and followed by the Ewok kids cartoon. None of this effected the change from Wookiee to Ewok for ROTJ - it was all an afterthought.
Nobody gives 2 **** about Snoke or anyone for that matter from the new trash Disney trilogy!! Rian Johnson made sure of that after the last Jedi
I give and about 50% of star wars community do,
There are better than the prequels by a mile
The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker were definitely both better than The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones (except in creativity).
The Force Awakens was slightly better than Revenge of the Sith, although they were both very good in my opinion (Revenge of the Sith was much more creative and had a LOT more lore to it, but The Force Awakens had more suspense).
However, the Last Jedi was trash. That should be obvious. See my 8 paragraph rant (second post above this) for more clarification if you do not agree. Out of all of the Star Wars films, it would probably be the second worst in my opinion (the worst being Solo: A Star Wars Story, and the third worst being The Phantom Menace).
Look, you have to understand that the prequels were very good in their own way. They were by far the most creative of the films, especially the third film, and they established a TON of lore (although obviously the original films established the most lore). And unlike the Disney trilogy, the prequels weren't 3/4 copied off of the plot of the original films!
Prequels are the WORST of Canon Star Wars Media, they have some moments, but still. My Opinion
Also I love TLJ and would love Snoke in Game
I made a reply to this that had some links in in, so it said that it "had to be approved" or something along those lines.
If you want, look at this just as some filler in the mean time.
Just a forewarning there is some colorful language in it.
Look up the video:
"The Last Jedi Action. Worse Than You Remember". It is by a youtuber named Robot Head.
also watch his video "Disney Doesn't Understand Lightsabers". I wont post it here because his language is even more colorful that the above video, but you can feel free to watch it yourself.
It's called Opinion. I Like Sequels(Even Love) and you dont have too
Did you watch the video? Come back and say you "I like sequels" after watching it. Go on. Watch it.
I watched it and Love Sequels.
But at least do you understand the flaws of the sequels now? Maybe watching movies such as the originals and the prequels would help remind you what Star Wars was SUPPOSED to be, instead of watching the films Disney created to make money off of the Star Wars fanbase.
Eh, I Love Everything(Even Prequels, for me they are the Worst) Star Wars Related. What Flaws?
What flaws? Seriously?
Yes what flaws?
Oh dear...
Off the top of my head:
TFA:
* Rey being overpowered with no training, even besting a trained Skywalker.
* The movie was a carbon copy of ANH
* Ending changed due to the script of TLJ before the theatrical release of TFA (Luke still had the force as boulders were swirling around him as Rey approached. This is why he was still in his Jedi robes - because he hadn't turned his back on the Jedi).
TLJ:
* Luke's character was changed from TFA intentions, and changed against everyone's expectations compared to how the fans saw Luke for decades in the EU. His whole creation of Kylo and turning his back on the galaxy was out of character for Luke so much so, Hamil tried reasoning with Johnson over it, and in the end just referred to him as "Jake" Skywalker - because he wasn't anything like Luke.
* Resistance bombers blew up like they were made of paper.
* Space chase plot, coasting through space is physics "inertia", fuel has nothing to do with it.
* Holdo's plan of not informing her people (even leaders) of her plan, causing a mutiny.
* Holdo's plan of escape to Crait, relied on the first order not using scanners or looking out the window at all their escape shuttles.
* The Holdo maneuver destroys all prior and future space battles in the franchise.
* Snoke was killed off to subvert expectations and allowed Johnson no need to write any kind of compelling villain out of Snoke. Killing off the main antagonist left no main antagonist for the 3rd act.
* Choreography of Rey & Kylo against Snokie's gaurds - disappearing werapons, miss-timed and miss-aimed attacks, 1 guard is kicked by Rey, yet 3 garuards fall from it, one guard throws his weapon at Kylo and misses by miles (way over Kylo's head) - it goes on and on. Additionally Kylo loses his saber and seems to forget he has the force at his finger tips, so instead runs around like a headless chicken.
* Canto Bight plot was completely pointless.
* Legendary Luke Skywalker dies from strain.
TROS:
* Lightspeed skipping - there are reasons for star charts and hyperspace routes, Poe would have crashed the Falcon.
* TIE Fighters are short range fighters and incapable of lightspeed to follow Poe during his "Lightspeed Skipping" maneuvers. Lets say tech advanced and they do have lightspeed - Poe was plugging in random coordinates to skip to, the pursuing TIEs would have no idea where he was jumping to next, let alone following him through multiple jumps.
* Leia knew of Rey's lineage - how?
* Rey can heal now - a power that even the Chosen One fell to the darkside for to discover.
* Emperor Palpatine returns because Johnson killed off Snoke.
* Palpatine's plan was to have a son to transfer his essence into, who escaped, had Rey unbeknown to Palpatine, so he could then become aware of her and she of him so she could strike him down and he could then transfer into her - while he could have just **** her life force and heal himself in the first place - which he did - that plan is backwards, upside down and completely mental.
* Kylo wanted the Jedi and the Sith to die - yet wants to be a ruling Sith over the First Order and FInal Order fleet by working with palpatine.
* Palpatine wanted Rey alive, yet his puppet Snoke tried to murder her in the last movie - this makes no sense.
* Haldo maneuver is explained to be too difficult a "one in a million" chances of success to retcon its use in TLJ, yet someone does it again at the end of the movie above Endor?
* Anakin built C3PO out of spare parts in an area of the galaxy where the republic laws didn't exist - yet he made sure to include Republic Legislation programming preventing 3PO from translating an ancient language from 1000 years ago - again, that's mental.
* C3PO lost his memories to help his friends, a truly worthy sacrifice, not to worry as R2 has his entire memory on back up for some unknown reason.
* Sith dagger would not be able to locate the Sith Wayfinder on Endor, it all depended where on the coast line Rey was standing and what distance she was from the wreckage to have the images/map align correctly.
* The Death Star 2 was obliterated in ROTJ - there would literally be no wreckage like what we saw.
* Just like that Kylo Ren flips a switch and becomes Ben Solo.
* Again, Ben Solo forgets he has the force when fighting the Knights of Ren and nearly dies, until Rey "passes" him a lightsaber.
* Lando is creepy with that female ex-stormtrooper - who was meant to be his daughter, but just cut the scene out entirely - it was CREEPY.
* Leia goes to bed and dies.
* Luke raises his X-wing for Rey to fly to Exogul, but the X-wing was seen deteriorated and destroyed underwater in TLJ.
* Striking Palpatine down would allow his essence to transfer into Rey, his force lightening could have been deflected away in another direction, but Rey intended to reflect it back onto Palpatine to kill him - so she killed him with intent and his essence did not transfer to Rey - I guess Rey just lives by another set of rules, and she always has done.
* Rey and Kylo play tug of war with a shuttle taking off, but Vader could not stop the Rebel Blockade Runner from escaping with the Death Star plans at the end of R1 - he was also the chosen one remember?
* How did Palpatine have the financial resources, materials and production to make such a massive fleet? All piloted and manned by thousands of who? Brainwashed people from around the galaxy - so the resistance murders millions of unwilling slaves? Ok.
* Palpatine transferred his essence at the end of ROTJ to a clone body on the other side of the galaxy - he was never defeated. The prophecy of the chosen one never came to fruition.
* All Jedi power is drawn upon by Rey to defeat all the Sith power in Palpatine, lol - what? That's not how it all works.
* Now they are trying to retcon stuff in the novel: Rey's father is no longer Palpatine's son, but a failed, non-force sensitive and unidentical clone? Hahahahahaha.
* Another retcon is that Palpatine destroyed Luke's Jedi Academy, not Kylo, so Kylo can be seen as more likeable/redeemable.
* Another retcon/re-write is that Palpatine wanted to essence transfer into Luke in ROTJ, but his saber strike was blocked by Vader - saving Luke. No. Palpatine clearly stated he wanted Luke as his new apprentice.
All of this really goes on and on and on. You seriously ask "what flaws?"
But at the end of the day, remember that this is Disney's fault, not Lucas Films. Disney ruined Star Wars... first they make the worst two Star Wars films EVER, 'The Last Jedi' and 'Solo: A Star Wars Story', and then they make a Star Wars tv show on their rather expensive streaming service that was made ONLY to make more money via selling Baby Yoda merchandise.
Sorry but Lucas made his movies to sell toys. Disney didn't even have any "Baby Yoda" merchandise ready until after people went online crying for some.
Once again, I like TLJ. Don't understand the hate it gets.
No. They fully intended to sell Baby Yoda merch, but (IIRC) Jon Favreau said not to make merchandise ahead of time as that would ruin the big spoiler reveal, and after some back and forth Disney backed out
Lucas made a lot of decisions to sell toys, and the Disney Star Wars is the same, they even introduced a new forgettable bb8 wannabe droid companion in TROS and I can't even remember what its called
I think the point of Babu Frick's character was to sell toys too
Also to everyone, the ST is trash, its not opinion, but fact if you follow the lore of the galaxy/world in which Star Wars was created.
If you don't care, then go ahead and enjoy them.
Thanks for your permission, will do.
Also, I know it's hard times right now, but flaming a message board so you can have something to argue about (presumably your favorite topic) is pretty bad form. I mean, there are more destructive ways to get out your pent up energy, but also plenty of more constructive ones. Not sure what your therapist says, but I'd suggest stepping away from the Star Wars universe for a bit until the real world simmers itself down.
Lol that list and says the OT is perfect. No flaws.
Ok.
Ok then make a similar list of the OT just as long
Just as long?
Only requires one item.
Which is?
And any one item is insignificant next to the long list I have provided regarding the ST. You scramble to get 1 thing, which you haven't even bothered to share.
Also to everyone, the ST is trash, its not opinion, but fact if you follow the lore of the galaxy/world in which Star Wars was created.
If you don't care, then go ahead and enjoy them.
Thanks for your permission, will do.
Also, I know it's hard times right now, but flaming a message board so you can have something to argue about (presumably your favorite topic) is pretty bad form. I mean, there are more destructive ways to get out your pent up energy, but also plenty of more constructive ones. Not sure what your therapist says, but I'd suggest stepping away from the Star Wars universe for a bit until the real world simmers itself down.
Pent up energy? I am still working, considering my job is "essential". I'd rather not be, lol.
No, I call out the ST's rubbish for what it is, I need no other excuses to do so, but thank you for the psychological evaluation.
If you enjoy the ST - good on you, but I cant keep my head in the sand, its not for me due to reasons stated above and because I actually care about the world that was created before the ST tore it all down.
It looks like Star Wars, but its not. What's the term like this used in WW2 - "Cargo Cult" I believe.
I'd also add that Snoke was the Main antagonist for both TFA and TLJ, yet other toons take priority in this game such as CUP or other irrelevant "no name" characters.
Additionally Rose Tico, although had more screen time (like that matters) essentially does nothing. She accompanies Fynn to a casino planet to ride Rabbit/Horse things, gets captured, then stops Fynn by preventing the FO's assault. That's it. Ya, lets make her a Relic 5 requirement! Because that is such a good idea, lol.
As usual, you have completely missed a characters point in the story.
Nope. Why have CUP in this game and no main antagonist for 2 movies with Snoke - I think you missed the point, lol.
You have now completely ignored my point, which had nothing to do with Snoke.
Then you completely ignored my point, which is what I just repeated to you.
If your point had nothing to do with Snoke's character and importance in TFA and TLJ as the main antagonist, yet is not represented in this game - why were you responding to my comment?
Make your own point and do not reply to mine, unless you actually intend on replying to what I have said, don't drag me up.
I was responding to the other 80% of your post, not the one sentence about Snoke.
The point about Rose? What about it?
I strongly dislike (not her being in the game - she is a SW character and rightly belongs in the game) but to make her Relic 5, is just crazy. She was mostly cut out of TROS because of her "lack of importance".
Its like making Jar Jar a Relic requirement, but even then Jar Jar was more important. His ties to the Gungan army that ended the blockade and Federation occupation of Naboo in TPM, he also was pivotal in the vote on use of the clone army that sparked the clone wars - can't say anything of the same magnitude for Rose. Again, Snoke is a more pivotal character than Rose, which was my original point.
Also to everyone, the ST is trash, its not opinion, but fact if you follow the lore of the galaxy/world in which Star Wars was created.
If you don't care, then go ahead and enjoy them.
Thanks for your permission, will do.
Also, I know it's hard times right now, but flaming a message board so you can have something to argue about (presumably your favorite topic) is pretty bad form. I mean, there are more destructive ways to get out your pent up energy, but also plenty of more constructive ones. Not sure what your therapist says, but I'd suggest stepping away from the Star Wars universe for a bit until the real world simmers itself down.
Pent up energy? I am still working, considering my job is "essential". I'd rather not be, lol.
No, I call out the ST's rubbish for what it is, I need no other excuses to do so, but thank you for the psychological evaluation.
If you enjoy the ST - good on you, but I cant keep my head in the sand, its not for me due to reasons stated above and because I actually care about the world that was created before the ST tore it all down.
It looks like Star Wars, but its not. What's the term like this used in WW2 - "Cargo Cult" I believe.
Also to everyone, the ST is trash, its not opinion, but fact if you follow the lore of the galaxy/world in which Star Wars was created.
If you don't care, then go ahead and enjoy them.
Thanks for your permission, will do.
Also, I know it's hard times right now, but flaming a message board so you can have something to argue about (presumably your favorite topic) is pretty bad form. I mean, there are more destructive ways to get out your pent up energy, but also plenty of more constructive ones. Not sure what your therapist says, but I'd suggest stepping away from the Star Wars universe for a bit until the real world simmers itself down.
Pent up energy? I am still working, considering my job is "essential". I'd rather not be, lol.
No, I call out the ST's rubbish for what it is, I need no other excuses to do so, but thank you for the psychological evaluation.
If you enjoy the ST - good on you, but I cant keep my head in the sand, its not for me due to reasons stated above and because I actually care about the world that was created before the ST tore it all down.
It looks like Star Wars, but its not. What's the term like this used in WW2 - "Cargo Cult" I believe.
Nobody gives 2 **** about Snoke or anyone for that matter from the new trash Disney trilogy!! Rian Johnson made sure of that after the last Jedi
I give and about 50% of star wars community do,
There are better than the prequels by a mile
The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker were definitely both better than The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones (except in creativity).
The Force Awakens was slightly better than Revenge of the Sith, although they were both very good in my opinion (Revenge of the Sith was much more creative and had a LOT more lore to it, but The Force Awakens had more suspense).
However, the Last Jedi was trash. That should be obvious. See my 8 paragraph rant (second post above this) for more clarification if you do not agree. Out of all of the Star Wars films, it would probably be the second worst in my opinion (the worst being Solo: A Star Wars Story, and the third worst being The Phantom Menace).
Look, you have to understand that the prequels were very good in their own way. They were by far the most creative of the films, especially the third film, and they established a TON of lore (although obviously the original films established the most lore). And unlike the Disney trilogy, the prequels weren't 3/4 copied off of the plot of the original films!
Prequels are the WORST of Canon Star Wars Media, they have some moments, but still. My Opinion
Also I love TLJ and would love Snoke in Game
I made a reply to this that had some links in in, so it said that it "had to be approved" or something along those lines.
If you want, look at this just as some filler in the mean time.
Just a forewarning there is some colorful language in it.
Look up the video:
"The Last Jedi Action. Worse Than You Remember". It is by a youtuber named Robot Head.
also watch his video "Disney Doesn't Understand Lightsabers". I wont post it here because his language is even more colorful that the above video, but you can feel free to watch it yourself.
It's called Opinion. I Like Sequels(Even Love) and you dont have too
Did you watch the video? Come back and say you "I like sequels" after watching it. Go on. Watch it.
I watched it and Love Sequels.
But at least do you understand the flaws of the sequels now? Maybe watching movies such as the originals and the prequels would help remind you what Star Wars was SUPPOSED to be, instead of watching the films Disney created to make money off of the Star Wars fanbase.
Eh, I Love Everything(Even Prequels, for me they are the Worst) Star Wars Related. What Flaws?
What flaws? Seriously?
Yes what flaws?
Oh dear...
Off the top of my head:
TFA:
* Rey being overpowered with no training, even besting a trained Skywalker.
* The movie was a carbon copy of ANH
* Ending changed due to the script of TLJ before the theatrical release of TFA (Luke still had the force as boulders were swirling around him as Rey approached. This is why he was still in his Jedi robes - because he hadn't turned his back on the Jedi).
TLJ:
* Luke's character was changed from TFA intentions, and changed against everyone's expectations compared to how the fans saw Luke for decades in the EU. His whole creation of Kylo and turning his back on the galaxy was out of character for Luke so much so, Hamil tried reasoning with Johnson over it, and in the end just referred to him as "Jake" Skywalker - because he wasn't anything like Luke.
* Resistance bombers blew up like they were made of paper.
* Space chase plot, coasting through space is physics "inertia", fuel has nothing to do with it.
* Holdo's plan of not informing her people (even leaders) of her plan, causing a mutiny.
* Holdo's plan of escape to Crait, relied on the first order not using scanners or looking out the window at all their escape shuttles.
* The Holdo maneuver destroys all prior and future space battles in the franchise.
* Snoke was killed off to subvert expectations and allowed Johnson no need to write any kind of compelling villain out of Snoke. Killing off the main antagonist left no main antagonist for the 3rd act.
* Choreography of Rey & Kylo against Snokie's gaurds - disappearing werapons, miss-timed and miss-aimed attacks, 1 guard is kicked by Rey, yet 3 garuards fall from it, one guard throws his weapon at Kylo and misses by miles (way over Kylo's head) - it goes on and on. Additionally Kylo loses his saber and seems to forget he has the force at his finger tips, so instead runs around like a headless chicken.
* Canto Bight plot was completely pointless.
* Legendary Luke Skywalker dies from strain.
TROS:
* Lightspeed skipping - there are reasons for star charts and hyperspace routes, Poe would have crashed the Falcon.
* TIE Fighters are short range fighters and incapable of lightspeed to follow Poe during his "Lightspeed Skipping" maneuvers. Lets say tech advanced and they do have lightspeed - Poe was plugging in random coordinates to skip to, the pursuing TIEs would have no idea where he was jumping to next, let alone following him through multiple jumps.
* Leia knew of Rey's lineage - how?
* Rey can heal now - a power that even the Chosen One fell to the darkside for to discover.
* Emperor Palpatine returns because Johnson killed off Snoke.
* Palpatine's plan was to have a son to transfer his essence into, who escaped, had Rey unbeknown to Palpatine, so he could then become aware of her and she of him so she could strike him down and he could then transfer into her - while he could have just **** her life force and heal himself in the first place - which he did - that plan is backwards, upside down and completely mental.
* Kylo wanted the Jedi and the Sith to die - yet wants to be a ruling Sith over the First Order and FInal Order fleet by working with palpatine.
* Palpatine wanted Rey alive, yet his puppet Snoke tried to murder her in the last movie - this makes no sense.
* Haldo maneuver is explained to be too difficult a "one in a million" chances of success to retcon its use in TLJ, yet someone does it again at the end of the movie above Endor?
* Anakin built C3PO out of spare parts in an area of the galaxy where the republic laws didn't exist - yet he made sure to include Republic Legislation programming preventing 3PO from translating an ancient language from 1000 years ago - again, that's mental.
* C3PO lost his memories to help his friends, a truly worthy sacrifice, not to worry as R2 has his entire memory on back up for some unknown reason.
* Sith dagger would not be able to locate the Sith Wayfinder on Endor, it all depended where on the coast line Rey was standing and what distance she was from the wreckage to have the images/map align correctly.
* The Death Star 2 was obliterated in ROTJ - there would literally be no wreckage like what we saw.
* Just like that Kylo Ren flips a switch and becomes Ben Solo.
* Again, Ben Solo forgets he has the force when fighting the Knights of Ren and nearly dies, until Rey "passes" him a lightsaber.
* Lando is creepy with that female ex-stormtrooper - who was meant to be his daughter, but just cut the scene out entirely - it was CREEPY.
* Leia goes to bed and dies.
* Luke raises his X-wing for Rey to fly to Exogul, but the X-wing was seen deteriorated and destroyed underwater in TLJ.
* Striking Palpatine down would allow his essence to transfer into Rey, his force lightening could have been deflected away in another direction, but Rey intended to reflect it back onto Palpatine to kill him - so she killed him with intent and his essence did not transfer to Rey - I guess Rey just lives by another set of rules, and she always has done.
* Rey and Kylo play tug of war with a shuttle taking off, but Vader could not stop the Rebel Blockade Runner from escaping with the Death Star plans at the end of R1 - he was also the chosen one remember?
* How did Palpatine have the financial resources, materials and production to make such a massive fleet? All piloted and manned by thousands of who? Brainwashed people from around the galaxy - so the resistance murders millions of unwilling slaves? Ok.
* Palpatine transferred his essence at the end of ROTJ to a clone body on the other side of the galaxy - he was never defeated. The prophecy of the chosen one never came to fruition.
* All Jedi power is drawn upon by Rey to defeat all the Sith power in Palpatine, lol - what? That's not how it all works.
* Now they are trying to retcon stuff in the novel: Rey's father is no longer Palpatine's son, but a failed, non-force sensitive and unidentical clone? Hahahahahaha.
* Another retcon is that Palpatine destroyed Luke's Jedi Academy, not Kylo, so Kylo can be seen as more likeable/redeemable.
* Another retcon/re-write is that Palpatine wanted to essence transfer into Luke in ROTJ, but his saber strike was blocked by Vader - saving Luke. No. Palpatine clearly stated he wanted Luke as his new apprentice.
All of this really goes on and on and on. You seriously ask "what flaws?"
The One Thing i Can agree was That Rey kicked one Guard, 3 fell and there weren't any Force Used
Not even the disappearing weapons in that scene that have been highlighted many times across the internet?
And everything else doesn't exist? No wonder Disney/Lucasfilm make such poor movies - half the fanbase gobble it up like being served poo in a restaurant.
I guess every dog has its day, and star wars has too.
You're totally not Toxic.
No I am not. I have collectively explained, point by point, what issues the ST has, as you were unaware. You agree with one point, yet seem blind to the magnitude of multiple other points - which are all valid.
I fail to see a civil counter point from you as to why they are good or an attempt to deconstruct the valid issues I have listed. Instead you call me "toxic" while falsely believing you have some sort of moral high ground - you don't.
Yes, you are. You say if you do not hate Sequels(Such as You) you Are Blind Zombie that just Gives them Money.
Your words not mine. Considering you fail to see 99% of the issues I raised, that is quite telling.
Even if you like the ST, you could at least still see the issues and either they bother you or they don't, doesn't mean they aren't there.
Nobody gives 2 **** about Snoke or anyone for that matter from the new trash Disney trilogy!! Rian Johnson made sure of that after the last Jedi
I give and about 50% of star wars community do,
There are better than the prequels by a mile
The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker were definitely both better than The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones (except in creativity).
The Force Awakens was slightly better than Revenge of the Sith, although they were both very good in my opinion (Revenge of the Sith was much more creative and had a LOT more lore to it, but The Force Awakens had more suspense).
However, the Last Jedi was trash. That should be obvious. See my 8 paragraph rant (second post above this) for more clarification if you do not agree. Out of all of the Star Wars films, it would probably be the second worst in my opinion (the worst being Solo: A Star Wars Story, and the third worst being The Phantom Menace).
Look, you have to understand that the prequels were very good in their own way. They were by far the most creative of the films, especially the third film, and they established a TON of lore (although obviously the original films established the most lore). And unlike the Disney trilogy, the prequels weren't 3/4 copied off of the plot of the original films!
Prequels are the WORST of Canon Star Wars Media, they have some moments, but still. My Opinion
Also I love TLJ and would love Snoke in Game
I made a reply to this that had some links in in, so it said that it "had to be approved" or something along those lines.
If you want, look at this just as some filler in the mean time.
Just a forewarning there is some colorful language in it.
Look up the video:
"The Last Jedi Action. Worse Than You Remember". It is by a youtuber named Robot Head.
also watch his video "Disney Doesn't Understand Lightsabers". I wont post it here because his language is even more colorful that the above video, but you can feel free to watch it yourself.
It's called Opinion. I Like Sequels(Even Love) and you dont have too
Did you watch the video? Come back and say you "I like sequels" after watching it. Go on. Watch it.
I watched it and Love Sequels.
But at least do you understand the flaws of the sequels now? Maybe watching movies such as the originals and the prequels would help remind you what Star Wars was SUPPOSED to be, instead of watching the films Disney created to make money off of the Star Wars fanbase.
Eh, I Love Everything(Even Prequels, for me they are the Worst) Star Wars Related. What Flaws?
What flaws? Seriously?
Yes what flaws?
Oh dear...
Off the top of my head:
TFA:
* Rey being overpowered with no training, even besting a trained Skywalker.
* The movie was a carbon copy of ANH
* Ending changed due to the script of TLJ before the theatrical release of TFA (Luke still had the force as boulders were swirling around him as Rey approached. This is why he was still in his Jedi robes - because he hadn't turned his back on the Jedi).
TLJ:
* Luke's character was changed from TFA intentions, and changed against everyone's expectations compared to how the fans saw Luke for decades in the EU. His whole creation of Kylo and turning his back on the galaxy was out of character for Luke so much so, Hamil tried reasoning with Johnson over it, and in the end just referred to him as "Jake" Skywalker - because he wasn't anything like Luke.
* Resistance bombers blew up like they were made of paper.
* Space chase plot, coasting through space is physics "inertia", fuel has nothing to do with it.
* Holdo's plan of not informing her people (even leaders) of her plan, causing a mutiny.
* Holdo's plan of escape to Crait, relied on the first order not using scanners or looking out the window at all their escape shuttles.
* The Holdo maneuver destroys all prior and future space battles in the franchise.
* Snoke was killed off to subvert expectations and allowed Johnson no need to write any kind of compelling villain out of Snoke. Killing off the main antagonist left no main antagonist for the 3rd act.
* Choreography of Rey & Kylo against Snokie's gaurds - disappearing werapons, miss-timed and miss-aimed attacks, 1 guard is kicked by Rey, yet 3 garuards fall from it, one guard throws his weapon at Kylo and misses by miles (way over Kylo's head) - it goes on and on. Additionally Kylo loses his saber and seems to forget he has the force at his finger tips, so instead runs around like a headless chicken.
* Canto Bight plot was completely pointless.
* Legendary Luke Skywalker dies from strain.
TROS:
* Lightspeed skipping - there are reasons for star charts and hyperspace routes, Poe would have crashed the Falcon.
* TIE Fighters are short range fighters and incapable of lightspeed to follow Poe during his "Lightspeed Skipping" maneuvers. Lets say tech advanced and they do have lightspeed - Poe was plugging in random coordinates to skip to, the pursuing TIEs would have no idea where he was jumping to next, let alone following him through multiple jumps.
* Leia knew of Rey's lineage - how?
* Rey can heal now - a power that even the Chosen One fell to the darkside for to discover.
* Emperor Palpatine returns because Johnson killed off Snoke.
* Palpatine's plan was to have a son to transfer his essence into, who escaped, had Rey unbeknown to Palpatine, so he could then become aware of her and she of him so she could strike him down and he could then transfer into her - while he could have just **** her life force and heal himself in the first place - which he did - that plan is backwards, upside down and completely mental.
* Kylo wanted the Jedi and the Sith to die - yet wants to be a ruling Sith over the First Order and FInal Order fleet by working with palpatine.
* Palpatine wanted Rey alive, yet his puppet Snoke tried to murder her in the last movie - this makes no sense.
* Haldo maneuver is explained to be too difficult a "one in a million" chances of success to retcon its use in TLJ, yet someone does it again at the end of the movie above Endor?
* Anakin built C3PO out of spare parts in an area of the galaxy where the republic laws didn't exist - yet he made sure to include Republic Legislation programming preventing 3PO from translating an ancient language from 1000 years ago - again, that's mental.
* C3PO lost his memories to help his friends, a truly worthy sacrifice, not to worry as R2 has his entire memory on back up for some unknown reason.
* Sith dagger would not be able to locate the Sith Wayfinder on Endor, it all depended where on the coast line Rey was standing and what distance she was from the wreckage to have the images/map align correctly.
* The Death Star 2 was obliterated in ROTJ - there would literally be no wreckage like what we saw.
* Just like that Kylo Ren flips a switch and becomes Ben Solo.
* Again, Ben Solo forgets he has the force when fighting the Knights of Ren and nearly dies, until Rey "passes" him a lightsaber.
* Lando is creepy with that female ex-stormtrooper - who was meant to be his daughter, but just cut the scene out entirely - it was CREEPY.
* Leia goes to bed and dies.
* Luke raises his X-wing for Rey to fly to Exogul, but the X-wing was seen deteriorated and destroyed underwater in TLJ.
* Striking Palpatine down would allow his essence to transfer into Rey, his force lightening could have been deflected away in another direction, but Rey intended to reflect it back onto Palpatine to kill him - so she killed him with intent and his essence did not transfer to Rey - I guess Rey just lives by another set of rules, and she always has done.
* Rey and Kylo play tug of war with a shuttle taking off, but Vader could not stop the Rebel Blockade Runner from escaping with the Death Star plans at the end of R1 - he was also the chosen one remember?
* How did Palpatine have the financial resources, materials and production to make such a massive fleet? All piloted and manned by thousands of who? Brainwashed people from around the galaxy - so the resistance murders millions of unwilling slaves? Ok.
* Palpatine transferred his essence at the end of ROTJ to a clone body on the other side of the galaxy - he was never defeated. The prophecy of the chosen one never came to fruition.
* All Jedi power is drawn upon by Rey to defeat all the Sith power in Palpatine, lol - what? That's not how it all works.
* Now they are trying to retcon stuff in the novel: Rey's father is no longer Palpatine's son, but a failed, non-force sensitive and unidentical clone? Hahahahahaha.
* Another retcon is that Palpatine destroyed Luke's Jedi Academy, not Kylo, so Kylo can be seen as more likeable/redeemable.
* Another retcon/re-write is that Palpatine wanted to essence transfer into Luke in ROTJ, but his saber strike was blocked by Vader - saving Luke. No. Palpatine clearly stated he wanted Luke as his new apprentice.
All of this really goes on and on and on. You seriously ask "what flaws?"
The One Thing i Can agree was That Rey kicked one Guard, 3 fell and there weren't any Force Used
Not even the disappearing weapons in that scene that have been highlighted many times across the internet?
And everything else doesn't exist? No wonder Disney/Lucasfilm make such poor movies - half the fanbase gobble it up like being served poo in a restaurant.
I guess every dog has its day, and star wars has too.
You're totally not Toxic.
No I am not. I have collectively explained, point by point, what issues the ST has, as you were unaware. You agree with one point, yet seem blind to the magnitude of multiple other points - which are all valid.
I fail to see a civil counter point from you as to why they are good or an attempt to deconstruct the valid issues I have listed. Instead you call me "toxic" while falsely believing you have some sort of moral high ground - you don't.
Yes, you are. You say if you do not hate Sequels(Such as You) you Are Blind Zombie that just Gives them Money.
Your words not mine. Considering you fail to see 99% of the issues I raised, that is quite telling.
Even if you like the ST, you could at least still see the issues and either they bother you or they don't, doesn't mean they aren't there.
My Words? You Said "And everything else doesn't exist? No wonder Disney/Lucasfilm make such poor movies - half the fanbase gobble it up like being served poo in a restaurant."
I'm Baffled, also Be Safe Y'all
And where do I resort to name calling such as "blind zombies"?
I guess some people obviously like to eat bad stuff, otherwise we wouldn't be in the pandemic we are in, right?
Replies
As usual, you have completely missed a characters point in the story.
Did you watch the video? Come back and say you "I like sequels" after watching it. Go on. Watch it.
First off, Lucas did NOT make his movies to sell toys. Neither the originals nor the prequels were ever done for that purpose. The movies that DISNEY made, the sequels and Solo, WERE made to sell toys.
Also, if you don't understand the hate TLJ gets, watch this video:
"The Last Jedi Action. Worse Than You Remember". It is by a youtuber named Robot Head (just a warning he does drop the f-bomb a few times).
Also understand that Rian Johnson, who made TLJ, started hating on Empire Strikes Back (which is ironic given so much of the visual and creative aspects of TLJ are completely copied off of ESB) and fans who didn't like TLJ as soon as he realized lots of people hated the movie. He would literally single people out via his twitter account and call them things such as "****" and "man baby"...
Every Star Wars movie merchandises. The purpose of Lucas's Star Wars movies weren't to merchandize though... Lucas was more interested in creating the story than the toys he could sell... he just wanted to keep making movies. That's why he made the original Star Wars films, to make a "high-adventure film for younger audiences". Exact quote may be a bit off but thats what he said as a guest during a talk show interview after Empire Strikes Back was a success. He made the prequels because he wanted to be able to expand on the lore he created, which is why Lucasfilms explicitly stated that no cannon writers were allowed to write material about the Clone Wars until the prequel movies were all released.
On the other hand, Disney DOES make movies just to make money. They don't care whether or not the movies are good, just as long as they make enough money. Notice the HUGE amount of official Star Wars toys on the market as soon as Disney's first Star Wars film was released.
How do you know he changed it to sell toys? He left a lot of stuff out of the original films, including the Emperor's backstory, so that he could expand on in the prequels. Maybe he already had Kashyyyk in mind for the Wookies when it was suggested to him by his fellow writers to make the forest moon of Endor a Wookie planet...
well, if you actually have any evidence to make the claim "lucas Changed for Ewoks to sell toys" then that would clear things up. If you actually do have any, then post it here.
But at least do you understand the flaws of the sequels now? Maybe watching movies such as the originals and the prequels would help remind you what Star Wars was SUPPOSED to be, instead of watching the films Disney created to make money off of the Star Wars fanbase.
Nope. Why have CUP in this game and no main antagonist for 2 movies with Snoke - I think you missed the point, lol.
That is incorrect. Lucas wanted a primitive race of beings to go toe to toe against the Empire in regard to the "David & Goliath" lesson he was going for. He had already established Wookiees as a sophisticated race through Chewbacca.
Additionally, when the Special Editions first made it to DVD, a documentary on the ROTJ disc stated that finding Peter Mayhew for the Wookiee, Chewbacca, was a trial. Finding many persons tall enough was challenging during the production for ROTJ - therefore this was another reason why Lucas went with "short" rather than "tall".
Sadly I cannot remember the name of this documentary, but this additional reasoning behind the change is out there - and shouldn't be too difficult to find, especially if you have those DVDs.
Anything from a marketing standpoint was a bonus, it had nothing to do with toys that ultimately affected his decision.
I agree with you. Even come the PT, merchandise bombed, despite Lucas making Anikan relateable to little kids and adding Jar Jar as childlike comedy value, the only toys that really sold were Obi Wan, Qui-Gon and Maul - the rest of the movie had too much politics (which was a good thing as far as I am concerned as it shaped the story of the PT), but due to too much politics Hasbro struggled to make "interesting" toys to market.
That is all fact - goes to show Lucas dropped some toy ideas for merch, but was more focused on telling his story.
You have now completely ignored my point, which had nothing to do with Snoke.
Then you completely ignored my point, which is what I just repeated to you.
If your point had nothing to do with Snoke's character and importance in TFA and TLJ as the main antagonist, yet is not represented in this game - why were you responding to my comment?
Make your own point and do not reply to mine, unless you actually intend on replying to what I have said, don't drag me up.
What flaws? Seriously?
I was responding to the other 80% of your post, not the one sentence about Snoke.
The reasoning for the Ewoks, I have clearly laid out in an above post.
Merchandising the Ewoks came after the fact, particularly when the Ewok movies were released and followed by the Ewok kids cartoon. None of this effected the change from Wookiee to Ewok for ROTJ - it was all an afterthought.
Oh dear...
Off the top of my head:
TFA:
* Rey being overpowered with no training, even besting a trained Skywalker.
* The movie was a carbon copy of ANH
* Ending changed due to the script of TLJ before the theatrical release of TFA (Luke still had the force as boulders were swirling around him as Rey approached. This is why he was still in his Jedi robes - because he hadn't turned his back on the Jedi).
TLJ:
* Luke's character was changed from TFA intentions, and changed against everyone's expectations compared to how the fans saw Luke for decades in the EU. His whole creation of Kylo and turning his back on the galaxy was out of character for Luke so much so, Hamil tried reasoning with Johnson over it, and in the end just referred to him as "Jake" Skywalker - because he wasn't anything like Luke.
* Resistance bombers blew up like they were made of paper.
* Space chase plot, coasting through space is physics "inertia", fuel has nothing to do with it.
* Holdo's plan of not informing her people (even leaders) of her plan, causing a mutiny.
* Holdo's plan of escape to Crait, relied on the first order not using scanners or looking out the window at all their escape shuttles.
* The Holdo maneuver destroys all prior and future space battles in the franchise.
* Snoke was killed off to subvert expectations and allowed Johnson no need to write any kind of compelling villain out of Snoke. Killing off the main antagonist left no main antagonist for the 3rd act.
* Choreography of Rey & Kylo against Snokie's gaurds - disappearing werapons, miss-timed and miss-aimed attacks, 1 guard is kicked by Rey, yet 3 garuards fall from it, one guard throws his weapon at Kylo and misses by miles (way over Kylo's head) - it goes on and on. Additionally Kylo loses his saber and seems to forget he has the force at his finger tips, so instead runs around like a headless chicken.
* Canto Bight plot was completely pointless.
* Legendary Luke Skywalker dies from strain.
TROS:
* Lightspeed skipping - there are reasons for star charts and hyperspace routes, Poe would have crashed the Falcon.
* TIE Fighters are short range fighters and incapable of lightspeed to follow Poe during his "Lightspeed Skipping" maneuvers. Lets say tech advanced and they do have lightspeed - Poe was plugging in random coordinates to skip to, the pursuing TIEs would have no idea where he was jumping to next, let alone following him through multiple jumps.
* Leia knew of Rey's lineage - how?
* Rey can heal now - a power that even the Chosen One fell to the darkside for to discover.
* Emperor Palpatine returns because Johnson killed off Snoke.
* Palpatine's plan was to have a son to transfer his essence into, who escaped, had Rey unbeknown to Palpatine, so he could then become aware of her and she of him so she could strike him down and he could then transfer into her - while he could have just **** her life force and heal himself in the first place - which he did - that plan is backwards, upside down and completely mental.
* Kylo wanted the Jedi and the Sith to die - yet wants to be a ruling Sith over the First Order and FInal Order fleet by working with palpatine.
* Palpatine wanted Rey alive, yet his puppet Snoke tried to murder her in the last movie - this makes no sense.
* Haldo maneuver is explained to be too difficult a "one in a million" chances of success to retcon its use in TLJ, yet someone does it again at the end of the movie above Endor?
* Anakin built C3PO out of spare parts in an area of the galaxy where the republic laws didn't exist - yet he made sure to include Republic Legislation programming preventing 3PO from translating an ancient language from 1000 years ago - again, that's mental.
* C3PO lost his memories to help his friends, a truly worthy sacrifice, not to worry as R2 has his entire memory on back up for some unknown reason.
* Sith dagger would not be able to locate the Sith Wayfinder on Endor, it all depended where on the coast line Rey was standing and what distance she was from the wreckage to have the images/map align correctly.
* The Death Star 2 was obliterated in ROTJ - there would literally be no wreckage like what we saw.
* Just like that Kylo Ren flips a switch and becomes Ben Solo.
* Again, Ben Solo forgets he has the force when fighting the Knights of Ren and nearly dies, until Rey "passes" him a lightsaber.
* Lando is creepy with that female ex-stormtrooper - who was meant to be his daughter, but just cut the scene out entirely - it was CREEPY.
* Leia goes to bed and dies.
* Luke raises his X-wing for Rey to fly to Exogul, but the X-wing was seen deteriorated and destroyed underwater in TLJ.
* Striking Palpatine down would allow his essence to transfer into Rey, his force lightening could have been deflected away in another direction, but Rey intended to reflect it back onto Palpatine to kill him - so she killed him with intent and his essence did not transfer to Rey - I guess Rey just lives by another set of rules, and she always has done.
* Rey and Kylo play tug of war with a shuttle taking off, but Vader could not stop the Rebel Blockade Runner from escaping with the Death Star plans at the end of R1 - he was also the chosen one remember?
* How did Palpatine have the financial resources, materials and production to make such a massive fleet? All piloted and manned by thousands of who? Brainwashed people from around the galaxy - so the resistance murders millions of unwilling slaves? Ok.
* Palpatine transferred his essence at the end of ROTJ to a clone body on the other side of the galaxy - he was never defeated. The prophecy of the chosen one never came to fruition.
* All Jedi power is drawn upon by Rey to defeat all the Sith power in Palpatine, lol - what? That's not how it all works.
* Now they are trying to retcon stuff in the novel: Rey's father is no longer Palpatine's son, but a failed, non-force sensitive and unidentical clone? Hahahahahaha.
* Another retcon is that Palpatine destroyed Luke's Jedi Academy, not Kylo, so Kylo can be seen as more likeable/redeemable.
* Another retcon/re-write is that Palpatine wanted to essence transfer into Luke in ROTJ, but his saber strike was blocked by Vader - saving Luke. No. Palpatine clearly stated he wanted Luke as his new apprentice.
All of this really goes on and on and on. You seriously ask "what flaws?"
Ok.
Ok then make a similar list of the OT just as long
Just as long?
Only requires one item.
Lucas made a lot of decisions to sell toys, and the Disney Star Wars is the same, they even introduced a new forgettable bb8 wannabe droid companion in TROS and I can't even remember what its called
I think the point of Babu Frick's character was to sell toys too
Thanks for your permission, will do.
Also, I know it's hard times right now, but flaming a message board so you can have something to argue about (presumably your favorite topic) is pretty bad form. I mean, there are more destructive ways to get out your pent up energy, but also plenty of more constructive ones. Not sure what your therapist says, but I'd suggest stepping away from the Star Wars universe for a bit until the real world simmers itself down.
Which is?
And any one item is insignificant next to the long list I have provided regarding the ST. You scramble to get 1 thing, which you haven't even bothered to share.
Pent up energy? I am still working, considering my job is "essential". I'd rather not be, lol.
No, I call out the ST's rubbish for what it is, I need no other excuses to do so, but thank you for the psychological evaluation.
If you enjoy the ST - good on you, but I cant keep my head in the sand, its not for me due to reasons stated above and because I actually care about the world that was created before the ST tore it all down.
It looks like Star Wars, but its not. What's the term like this used in WW2 - "Cargo Cult" I believe.
The point about Rose? What about it?
I strongly dislike (not her being in the game - she is a SW character and rightly belongs in the game) but to make her Relic 5, is just crazy. She was mostly cut out of TROS because of her "lack of importance".
Its like making Jar Jar a Relic requirement, but even then Jar Jar was more important. His ties to the Gungan army that ended the blockade and Federation occupation of Naboo in TPM, he also was pivotal in the vote on use of the clone army that sparked the clone wars - can't say anything of the same magnitude for Rose. Again, Snoke is a more pivotal character than Rose, which was my original point.
Be safe!
You too - scary times out there at the mo.
Your words not mine. Considering you fail to see 99% of the issues I raised, that is quite telling.
Even if you like the ST, you could at least still see the issues and either they bother you or they don't, doesn't mean they aren't there.
And where do I resort to name calling such as "blind zombies"?
I guess some people obviously like to eat bad stuff, otherwise we wouldn't be in the pandemic we are in, right?