Given that CG has apparently decided to give swgoh.gg sole access to the GAC History data, is there any chance CG could also "encourage" swgoh.gg to make that data available in a timely manner? The last round of GAC ended over 24 hours ago and yet the data is still not available.
truth be told though, data are still not there... hope that won't become a habit
So you agree that this is unusual, and that the data would usually be available for setting first round defences? Perhaps you and I are the only ones here who are actually competitive at GAC.
truth be told though, data are still not there... hope that won't become a habit
So you agree that this is unusual, and that the data would usually be available for setting first round defences? Perhaps you and I are the only ones here who are actually competitive at GAC.
As long as the GAC history is made available to all players at the same time we're all on an even playing field - competitive player or not.
As long as the GAC history is made available to all players at the same time we're all on an even playing field - competitive player or not.
This is only true if it is guaranteed that the data won't be made available at all prior to defences being posted. However, because there is no communication, and swgoh.gg isn't accountable to players, it is quite conceivable that the data will suddenly become available after some people have posted defences. It would be easily solved if the data would simply be made available "in a timely manner", ie consistently and predictably, whether that means we always have it for first round defences, or never have it for first round defences. It's the inconsistency that I'm objecting to.
As long as the GAC history is made available to all players at the same time we're all on an even playing field - competitive player or not.
This is only true if it is guaranteed that the data won't be made available at all prior to defences being posted. However, because there is no communication, and swgoh.gg isn't accountable to players, it is quite conceivable that the data will suddenly become available after some people have posted defences. It would be easily solved if the data would simply be made available "in a timely manner", ie consistently and predictably, whether that means we always have it for first round defences, or never have it for first round defences. It's the inconsistency that I'm objecting to.
We are on GAC 56 with three rounds each. If you can’t figure out your opponents defense tendencies after 168 rounds, one more week is not likely going to make a difference in your decision making skills.
We are on GAC 56 with three rounds each. If you can’t figure out your opponents defense tendencies after 168 rounds, one more week is not likely going to make a difference in your decision making skills.
I hope to face you in GAC some day if you place equal weight on defences placed in rounds from a year ago.
We are on GAC 56 with three rounds each. If you can’t figure out your opponents defense tendencies after 168 rounds, one more week is not likely going to make a difference in your decision making skills.
I hope to face you in GAC some day if you place equal weight on defences placed in rounds from a year ago.
If a hyperbolic argument is the only one you have, I’ll move on. Good luck in your round.
As long as the GAC history is made available to all players at the same time we're all on an even playing field - competitive player or not.
This is only true if it is guaranteed that the data won't be made available at all prior to defences being posted. However, because there is no communication, and swgoh.gg isn't accountable to players, it is quite conceivable that the data will suddenly become available after some people have posted defences. It would be easily solved if the data would simply be made available "in a timely manner", ie consistently and predictably, whether that means we always have it for first round defences, or never have it for first round defences. It's the inconsistency that I'm objecting to.
Personally I'm not bothered with it being inconsistent. I can usually see what I need to see from the available data even if it's not from the most recent GA. As long as we're on an even playing field it's fine with me - and we are.
We are on GAC 56 with three rounds each. If you can’t figure out your opponents defense tendencies after 168 rounds, one more week is not likely going to make a difference in your decision making skills.
I hope to face you in GAC some day if you place equal weight on defences placed in rounds from a year ago.
If a hyperbolic argument is the only one you have, I’ll move on. Good luck in your round.
Genuinely good luck to you too. I'm not sufficiently frequently on the forums to have come across you before, so I took offence at your earlier tone.
Tendencies are funny things, aren't they? My previous opponent placed largely the same defence as in the previous week, so my plans were sufficient. However, my next opponent placed a completely different JML comp this past week than in the first week of the season; one which is not easily countered by SLKR, and which will cause me to post a very different defence to ensure I have a more reliable counter, and a clean-up team. Perhaps my defence/attack is too finely balanced if this can make the difference between winning and losing.
Personally I'm not bothered with it being inconsistent. I can usually see what I need to see from the available data even if it's not from the most recent GA. As long as we're on an even playing field it's fine with me - and we are.
My point was that we're not on an even playing field if the data is released at an unspecified time, potentially during the defence-setting period. If the answer is that we all need to place our defences at the last possible moment "just in case", that seems like a bad answer.
Personally I'm not bothered with it being inconsistent. I can usually see what I need to see from the available data even if it's not from the most recent GA. As long as we're on an even playing field it's fine with me - and we are.
My point was that we're not on an even playing field if the data is released at an unspecified time, potentially during the defence-setting period. If the answer is that we all need to place our defences at the last possible moment "just in case", that seems like a bad answer.
You're free to choose when you want to set your defenses. If you prefer waiting until the data is available then you're free to wait. Your opponent can chose to do the same.
Personally I'm not bothered with it being inconsistent. I can usually see what I need to see from the available data even if it's not from the most recent GA.
Personally I'm not bothered with it being inconsistent. I can usually see what I need to see from the available data even if it's not from the most recent GA. As long as we're on an even playing field it's fine with me - and we are.
My point was that we're not on an even playing field if the data is released at an unspecified time, potentially during the defence-setting period.
I believe what they are getting at in that post, is that if the information is released to everyone at the same time, then we are all on an even playing field. Which is true.
I believe what they are getting at in that post, is that if the information is released to everyone at the same time, then we are all on an even playing field. Which is true.
Were everyone in the same timezone, I would agree. However, for some, defence-setting ends in the middle of the night, so if/when the data is released part-way through the defence-setting period it is very much not an even playing field.
I believe what they are getting at in that post, is that if the information is released to everyone at the same time, then we are all on an even playing field. Which is true.
Were everyone in the same timezone, I would agree. However, for some, defence-setting ends in the middle of the night, so if/when the data is released part-way through the defence-setting period it is very much not an even playing field.
That is true no matter what, people also have jobs and other things that get in the way, but no one has the information available before anyone else. The issue with timeing will always be present in any world wide game.
Replies
This. The data is available in a timely manner, I believe they post it 3 days after the event, that is when they can access it.
As long as the GAC history is made available to all players at the same time we're all on an even playing field - competitive player or not.
We are on GAC 56 with three rounds each. If you can’t figure out your opponents defense tendencies after 168 rounds, one more week is not likely going to make a difference in your decision making skills.
DISCLAIMER: Post is subject to change.
If a hyperbolic argument is the only one you have, I’ll move on. Good luck in your round.
DISCLAIMER: Post is subject to change.
Personally I'm not bothered with it being inconsistent. I can usually see what I need to see from the available data even if it's not from the most recent GA. As long as we're on an even playing field it's fine with me - and we are.
Tendencies are funny things, aren't they? My previous opponent placed largely the same defence as in the previous week, so my plans were sufficient. However, my next opponent placed a completely different JML comp this past week than in the first week of the season; one which is not easily countered by SLKR, and which will cause me to post a very different defence to ensure I have a more reliable counter, and a clean-up team. Perhaps my defence/attack is too finely balanced if this can make the difference between winning and losing.
You're free to choose when you want to set your defenses. If you prefer waiting until the data is available then you're free to wait. Your opponent can chose to do the same.
Personally I'm not bothered with it being inconsistent. I can usually see what I need to see from the available data even if it's not from the most recent GA.
I believe what they are getting at in that post, is that if the information is released to everyone at the same time, then we are all on an even playing field. Which is true.
That is true no matter what, people also have jobs and other things that get in the way, but no one has the information available before anyone else. The issue with timeing will always be present in any world wide game.