I’m thinking in addition to the reys and visas,
Fulcrum ahsoka, asajj ventress, we may even get a rebels/solo maul
(Never mind the insights just showed em all)
I think that Chirrut (and maybe Maz Kanata) represent a really interesting section of the universe: Force Believers. They can’t use the force, but they worship and sense it. I don’t like to see Chirrut as a force user because he introduces a new idea for Star Wars. I mean, would it not be cool to have a whole religion of people in the galaxy that worship the Force like the Jedi or Sith but cannot use it?
I think that Chirrut (and maybe Maz Kanata) represent a really interesting section of the universe: Force Believers. They can’t use the force, but they worship and sense it. I don’t like to see Chirrut as a force user because he introduces a new idea for Star Wars. I mean, would it not be cool to have a whole religion of people in the galaxy that worship the Force like the Jedi or Sith but cannot use it?
That honestly sounds incredibly boring. Knowing of something awesome and not being able to use it?
Unaligned Force User sounds really bad, it should be Neutral Force User.
But none of them are neutral. Not being Jedi or Sith doesn't make them neutral. I agree that it sounds really clunky but I can't really think of a better name
Unaligned Force User sounds really bad, it should be Neutral Force User.
Or just Force User. I think the community would understand that these characters are not Sith or Jedi, but they can use the force. Neutral works too though.
I think that Chirrut (and maybe Maz Kanata) represent a really interesting section of the universe: Force Believers. They can’t use the force, but they worship and sense it. I don’t like to see Chirrut as a force user because he introduces a new idea for Star Wars. I mean, would it not be cool to have a whole religion of people in the galaxy that worship the Force like the Jedi or Sith but cannot use it?
That honestly sounds incredibly boring. Knowing of something awesome and not being able to use it?
Personally, I think it could set up some really fun conflicts/characters. I think Chirrut was a really interesting character, and he never really did use the Force. What did happen could be considered a “Force Miracle,” which could be big for the Force Believers.
I think that Chirrut (and maybe Maz Kanata) represent a really interesting section of the universe: Force Believers. They can’t use the force, but they worship and sense it. I don’t like to see Chirrut as a force user because he introduces a new idea for Star Wars. I mean, would it not be cool to have a whole religion of people in the galaxy that worship the Force like the Jedi or Sith but cannot use it?
That honestly sounds incredibly boring. Knowing of something awesome and not being able to use it?
Personally, I think it could set up some really fun conflicts/characters. I think Chirrut was a really interesting character, and he never really did use the Force. What did happen could be considered a “Force Miracle,” which could be big for the Force Believers.
I mean. Chirrut was definitely cool. But put a jedi in his place and that would have been a very different movie.
I think that Chirrut (and maybe Maz Kanata) represent a really interesting section of the universe: Force Believers. They can’t use the force, but they worship and sense it. I don’t like to see Chirrut as a force user because he introduces a new idea for Star Wars. I mean, would it not be cool to have a whole religion of people in the galaxy that worship the Force like the Jedi or Sith but cannot use it?
Nihion gets it.
The point of Rogue One was to show the regular people of the Star Wars universe. They're not special--they're us. They can't move things with their mind and they can't jump 50 feet or shoot lightning, their only power is shooting a gun real good. Chirrut shows us that the force is more than something jedi use to spin around and slice off wampa arms, it's an entire faith system with a wide set of beliefs and practices that people in this universe use on a daily basis.
If he was a force user he wouldn't have had to chant his mantra and pull the lever. He would have just waved his hands and it would have been pulled from the safety of his position with Baze.
Unaligned Force User sounds really bad, it should be Neutral Force User.
But none of them are neutral. Not being Jedi or Sith doesn't make them neutral. I agree that it sounds really clunky but I can't really think of a better name
Yeah, its very verbose but i can't think of anything else more fitting either
Unaligned Force User sounds really bad, it should be Neutral Force User.
Maybe they didnt want it to be confused with the neutral tag.
But I also agree that neutral isnt really the "other option" between jedi and sith.
That brings up a question that’s nagged at me since I read the new tag.
Why are we getting “Unaligned Force User” as a tag when there is still NO ONE in the Neutral tag? I understand it for people such as SLKR and GL Rey, but Visas Marr? Ventress? Fulcrum? CAT? I would like to hear why we have a neutral tag, if we’re just going to add tags that say the exact same thing with more word salad.
I’m not trying to be rude here, I’m genuinely curious about CG’s thought process.
Unaligned Force User sounds really bad, it should be Neutral Force User.
Maybe they didnt want it to be confused with the neutral tag.
But I also agree that neutral isnt really the "other option" between jedi and sith.
That brings up a question that’s nagged at me since I read the new tag.
Why are we getting “Unaligned Force User” as a tag when there is still NO ONE in the Neutral tag? I understand it for people such as SLKR and GL Rey, but Visas Marr? Ventress? Fulcrum? CAT? I would like to hear why we have a neutral tag, if we’re just going to add tags that say the exact same thing with more word salad.
I’m not trying to be rude here, I’m genuinely curious about CG’s thought process.
Neutral and Unaligned Force User don't mean the same thing though. Eg. Ventress isn't a Sith but she's still a Dark side user. CAT isn't a Jedi but she's still a Light side user. So why would they be neutral? What are they neutral in the context of? They're not neutral by virtue of simply being neither Jedi nor Sith, because they're still clearly aligned with the dark or light side.
Honestly at this point I'd rather them just never give anyone the Neutral tag and just get rid of it in game. Seems like it would just raise a lot of questions as to who should get it and what exactly it means
In the expanded universe pre-Disney, there were lots of unaligned force users. Numerous force using sects existed outside of Sith and Jedi. We still have several to account for in canon such as the Inquisitors, Knights of Ren, Force Priestesses and even most Nightsisters use the force. However "aligned" can mean many things but in this case I take it to mean any non-Jedi or non-Sith that directly wields force powers.
Unaligned Force User sounds really bad, it should be Neutral Force User.
Maybe they didnt want it to be confused with the neutral tag.
But I also agree that neutral isnt really the "other option" between jedi and sith.
That brings up a question that’s nagged at me since I read the new tag.
Why are we getting “Unaligned Force User” as a tag when there is still NO ONE in the Neutral tag? I understand it for people such as SLKR and GL Rey, but Visas Marr? Ventress? Fulcrum? CAT? I would like to hear why we have a neutral tag, if we’re just going to add tags that say the exact same thing with more word salad.
I’m not trying to be rude here, I’m genuinely curious about CG’s thought process.
Neutral and Unaligned Force User don't mean the same thing though. Eg. Ventress isn't a Sith but she's still a Dark side user. CAT isn't a Jedi but she's still a Light side user. So why would they be neutral? What are they neutral in the context of? They're not neutral by virtue of simply being neither Jedi nor Sith, because they're still clearly aligned with the dark or light side.
Honestly at this point I'd rather them just never give anyone the Neutral tag and just get rid of it in game. Seems like it would just raise a lot of questions as to who should get it and what exactly it means
I understand what you’re saying. Let me say that. If that was, indeed, CG’s thoughts, then I would like to just rid ourselves of the Neutral tag. Or give it to the Bounty Hunters.
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Depends on what you mean by user. Chirrut is more Force attuned.
Hes special is "As the force wills." He uses the force more than Scavenger Rey
there are compelling arguments for Leia
Scavenger Rey falls more into this category than Chirrut
He was a receiver, not really a user. He could only sense it, but not actually use it.
Scavenger Rey could do both which is what makes her a user.
Right cause when he used it on the lever he was only receiving it
Do you mean in this scene?
https://youtu.be/vur2UlU4iXE
Yeah,
I don’t see him as a force user any more than Finn
Unaligned Force User sounds really bad, it should be Neutral Force User.
That honestly sounds incredibly boring. Knowing of something awesome and not being able to use it?
But none of them are neutral. Not being Jedi or Sith doesn't make them neutral. I agree that it sounds really clunky but I can't really think of a better name
Or just Force User. I think the community would understand that these characters are not Sith or Jedi, but they can use the force. Neutral works too though.
Personally, I think it could set up some really fun conflicts/characters. I think Chirrut was a really interesting character, and he never really did use the Force. What did happen could be considered a “Force Miracle,” which could be big for the Force Believers.
I mean. Chirrut was definitely cool. But put a jedi in his place and that would have been a very different movie.
Maybe they didnt want it to be confused with the neutral tag.
But I also agree that neutral isnt really the "other option" between jedi and sith.
Nihion gets it.
The point of Rogue One was to show the regular people of the Star Wars universe. They're not special--they're us. They can't move things with their mind and they can't jump 50 feet or shoot lightning, their only power is shooting a gun real good. Chirrut shows us that the force is more than something jedi use to spin around and slice off wampa arms, it's an entire faith system with a wide set of beliefs and practices that people in this universe use on a daily basis.
If he was a force user he wouldn't have had to chant his mantra and pull the lever. He would have just waved his hands and it would have been pulled from the safety of his position with Baze.
Oh, I like where you are going with the neutral thing.
How about "Light Force User" "Dark Force User"
Yeah, its very verbose but i can't think of anything else more fitting either
that's what LS / DS tags are for, on top of this tag
That brings up a question that’s nagged at me since I read the new tag.
Why are we getting “Unaligned Force User” as a tag when there is still NO ONE in the Neutral tag? I understand it for people such as SLKR and GL Rey, but Visas Marr? Ventress? Fulcrum? CAT? I would like to hear why we have a neutral tag, if we’re just going to add tags that say the exact same thing with more word salad.
I’m not trying to be rude here, I’m genuinely curious about CG’s thought process.
LS/DS tags include non-force users. Light Force user is different...like Rebel and Rebel fighter.
Neutral and Unaligned Force User don't mean the same thing though. Eg. Ventress isn't a Sith but she's still a Dark side user. CAT isn't a Jedi but she's still a Light side user. So why would they be neutral? What are they neutral in the context of? They're not neutral by virtue of simply being neither Jedi nor Sith, because they're still clearly aligned with the dark or light side.
Honestly at this point I'd rather them just never give anyone the Neutral tag and just get rid of it in game. Seems like it would just raise a lot of questions as to who should get it and what exactly it means
I understand what you’re saying. Let me say that. If that was, indeed, CG’s thoughts, then I would like to just rid ourselves of the Neutral tag. Or give it to the Bounty Hunters.