My last GAC week every one of the other 7 in my bracket had 2 more GL than me or 2M more GP. First autoset and I won handily. 2nd player had 2M (6M roster) more GP than me but 0 GL. He was a garbage player, won easily. Last guy had 2M more than me and 1 GL like me. I won fairly easily.
Skill rating means something. I expected to go 0-3 but swept the bracket.
Your skill rating is the same, therefore it’s a fair fight by the conditions of GAC matchmaking
Skill ratings being the same doesn’t mean the match is fair.
Darjelo said it's a fair fight BY THE CONDITIONS OF GAC MATCHMAKING, which is correct. By the conditions of GAC matchmaking, the same skill rating means the players are equally strong (combination of skill, roster strength, and one relative to the other (and even activity)), and therefore fair.
See and raise. This is in Carb 3. My opponent auto-deployed and he's still going to win if he bothers to attack (we're playing for 1 and 2 for the week so he's been attacking this week at least).
See and raise. This is in Carb 3. My opponent auto-deployed and he's still going to win if he bothers to attack (we're playing for 1 and 2 for the week so he's been attacking this week at least).
You can't be sure (s)he attacks. Maybe (s)he just tied twice with 0-0 and 'won' because (s)he has more GP.. It's possible...
To all above, it's a complement to play against much bigger rosters, that means you are doing just as good with your smaller roster than your opponent does with his/her bigger roster. That makes you more effective and is actually a compliment.. Look it from that side, you should be proud in sted of angry..... Just my 2 cents..
To all above, it's a complement to play against much bigger rosters, that means you are doing just as good with your smaller roster than your opponent does with his/her bigger roster. That makes you more effective and is actually a compliment.. Look it from that side, you should be proud in sted of angry..... Just my 2 cents..
Pride doenst pay for the 2100 crystals im losing per gac
There is always a reason why someone with a bigger roster than yours is at the same skill rating. I just won against a guy with 1M more GP than me, 6 GL to my 4, Exec r9 to my Exec r8. Why? He had a poor def, he failed on my Geos and Nego, and he had terrible mods. There’s always a reason.
To all above, it's a complement to play against much bigger rosters, that means you are doing just as good with your smaller roster than your opponent does with his/her bigger roster. That makes you more effective and is actually a compliment.. Look it from that side, you should be proud in sted of angry..... Just my 2 cents..
Pride doenst pay for the 2100 crystals im losing per gac
To all above, it's a complement to play against much bigger rosters, that means you are doing just as good with your smaller roster than your opponent does with his/her bigger roster. That makes you more effective and is actually a compliment.. Look it from that side, you should be proud in sted of angry..... Just my 2 cents..
Pride doenst pay for the 2100 crystals im losing per gac
Why so ignorant? What makes you so sure that you are entitled to get these 2100 crystals and others not?
What people don't seem to understand here is, if the current system matches you with an oppoenent, then there is ALWAYS a realistic chance that you can win (BASED ON HISTORICAL PvP DATA). Regardless how many GP different and how many GLs you can count.
If you loose then it simply means you were not performing good enough or you had bad luck and your opoonent decided to wake up from his loog sleep and attack you instead of letting you win. Either way, you are not entitled to get the crystals. Period.
There are obviously people who think winning is the normal case in this game. Everything else than that is not fair. That's a misperception, especially for PvP.
I don't think that skill-based matchmaking is working in an environment where "size" or "weight" does matter. Nobody would tell an olympic boxing champion in lightweight, "hey, you are sooo good, you can now fight others in super heavyweight class!" ;-)
And there are a lot more sports competitions which have weight-based classes before skill comes into. Even in professional esports you don't have to battle others with a huge material advantage so why setting the level that high in a simple mobile game?
I don't think that skill-based matchmaking is working in an environment where "size" or "weight" does matter. Nobody would tell an olympic boxing champion in lightweight, "hey, you are sooo good, you can now fight others in super heavyweight class!" ;-)
And there are a lot more sports competitions which have weight-based classes before skill comes into. Even in professional esports you don't have to battle others with a huge material advantage so why setting the level that high in a simple mobile game?
It does work neater in a game where there’s no material weight to things, true. But in a game where either large amounts of time or money were invested into building a good team, that investment needs to matter. Sorting people by GP alone was tried, and it didn’t work very well, because lean rosters with a focus on GLs or meta teams or super modding could consistently stomp any equivalent GP roster, while rosters people had built for TB or TW or Raids sort of floundered from bloat.
And my consistent argument, is if making an investment would move you into playing with a group of people who already have that investment, then what’s the point of that investment.
To all above, it's a complement to play against much bigger rosters, that means you are doing just as good with your smaller roster than your opponent does with his/her bigger roster. That makes you more effective and is actually a compliment.. Look it from that side, you should be proud in sted of angry..... Just my 2 cents..
Pride doenst pay for the 2100 crystals im losing per gac
You don't understand, you are a victim of your own succes..
I don't think that skill-based matchmaking is working in an environment where "size" or "weight" does matter. Nobody would tell an olympic boxing champion in lightweight, "hey, you are sooo good, you can now fight others in super heavyweight class!" ;-)
And there are a lot more sports competitions which have weight-based classes before skill comes into. Even in professional esports you don't have to battle others with a huge material advantage so why setting the level that high in a simple mobile game?
Fun fact: professional Sumo doesn't have weight classes. As long as you're 167 cm tall and weight at least 67 kg (thanks Wikipedia), it's fair game. The current Yokozuna is 192 cm tall and weight 177 kg. This guy whaled hard.
I don't think that skill-based matchmaking is working in an environment where "size" or "weight" does matter. Nobody would tell an olympic boxing champion in lightweight, "hey, you are sooo good, you can now fight others in super heavyweight class!" ;-)
And there are a lot more sports competitions which have weight-based classes before skill comes into. Even in professional esports you don't have to battle others with a huge material advantage so why setting the level that high in a simple mobile game?
Fun fact: professional Sumo doesn't have weight classes. As long as you're 167 cm tall and weight at least 67 kg (thanks Wikipedia), it's fair game. The current Yokozuna is 192 cm tall and weight 177 kg. This guy whaled hard.
Not only that, but some fighters actually do fight up in higher weight classes. But of course only of they have a good W/L record, so that's nothing like this game... oh wait...
I don't think that skill-based matchmaking is working in an environment where "size" or "weight" does matter. Nobody would tell an olympic boxing champion in lightweight, "hey, you are sooo good, you can now fight others in super heavyweight class!" ;-)
And there are a lot more sports competitions which have weight-based classes before skill comes into. Even in professional esports you don't have to battle others with a huge material advantage so why setting the level that high in a simple mobile game?
One fundamental difference is in those sports weights are human weights. They don't change a lot or often. A lightweight champion is not likely going to eat themselves into heavyweight fights. OTOH in this game the "weight" keeps growing as part of the game. Furthermore, how and where to grow the weight is actually also part of the skills in this game.
Just went 0-3 in the last week, so this week I get easier opponents right? Nope. Me: 1.1M, 4z, 0r. OP: 2.6M, 19z, 43r (7 r5+). Early game players getting screwed hard on “skill”.
Just went 0-3 in the last week, so this week I get easier opponents right? Nope. Me: 1.1M, 4z, 0r. OP: 2.6M, 19z, 43r (7 r5+). Early game players getting screwed hard on “skill”.
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Because who you get matched against has nothing to do with your GP or number of GLs?
Many of these large accounts rarely play GAC since they just buy tons of crystals anyway.
Skill ratings being the same doesn’t mean the match is fair.
Skill rating means something. I expected to go 0-3 but swept the bracket.
Darjelo said it's a fair fight BY THE CONDITIONS OF GAC MATCHMAKING, which is correct. By the conditions of GAC matchmaking, the same skill rating means the players are equally strong (combination of skill, roster strength, and one relative to the other (and even activity)), and therefore fair.
People are on one big ladder. You win you go up, you lose you go down, and you fight people next to you on the ladder. Seems pretty fair.
The initial seeding was by GP and only GP. From there on all that matters is wins and losses. So, they all account into the matchmaking as it is.
You can't be sure (s)he attacks. Maybe (s)he just tied twice with 0-0 and 'won' because (s)he has more GP.. It's possible...
Pride doenst pay for the 2100 crystals im losing per gac
how many in a row have you lost
Why so ignorant? What makes you so sure that you are entitled to get these 2100 crystals and others not?
What people don't seem to understand here is, if the current system matches you with an oppoenent, then there is ALWAYS a realistic chance that you can win (BASED ON HISTORICAL PvP DATA). Regardless how many GP different and how many GLs you can count.
If you loose then it simply means you were not performing good enough or you had bad luck and your opoonent decided to wake up from his loog sleep and attack you instead of letting you win. Either way, you are not entitled to get the crystals. Period.
There are obviously people who think winning is the normal case in this game. Everything else than that is not fair. That's a misperception, especially for PvP.
And there are a lot more sports competitions which have weight-based classes before skill comes into. Even in professional esports you don't have to battle others with a huge material advantage so why setting the level that high in a simple mobile game?
It does work neater in a game where there’s no material weight to things, true. But in a game where either large amounts of time or money were invested into building a good team, that investment needs to matter. Sorting people by GP alone was tried, and it didn’t work very well, because lean rosters with a focus on GLs or meta teams or super modding could consistently stomp any equivalent GP roster, while rosters people had built for TB or TW or Raids sort of floundered from bloat.
And my consistent argument, is if making an investment would move you into playing with a group of people who already have that investment, then what’s the point of that investment.
You don't understand, you are a victim of your own succes..
Fun fact: professional Sumo doesn't have weight classes. As long as you're 167 cm tall and weight at least 67 kg (thanks Wikipedia), it's fair game. The current Yokozuna is 192 cm tall and weight 177 kg. This guy whaled hard.
Not only that, but some fighters actually do fight up in higher weight classes. But of course only of they have a good W/L record, so that's nothing like this game... oh wait...
I have had 2 million GP diff multiple times since hitting Aurodium and Kyber.
My last round i had over 3.3 million GP difference in my first round and I still won.
Just because you are outmatched by GP doesn't mean you can't win.
I am 8-1 in Kyber 3/2 since I came down from Aurodium 1 , my only loss comes from another player with similar GP to me that played very well.
Alost every single one of those matchups had a massive discrepancy in GP, and I still easily managed a win for the most part.
One fundamental difference is in those sports weights are human weights. They don't change a lot or often. A lightweight champion is not likely going to eat themselves into heavyweight fights. OTOH in this game the "weight" keeps growing as part of the game. Furthermore, how and where to grow the weight is actually also part of the skills in this game.
keep going 0-3 and youll find your spot