Datacron Set-4 Infinite Loop, WAI?!?
Not sure who to tag in this, assuming anyone from CG ever actually reads/responds to genuine concerns, but:
Wasn't CG's position always that "infinite loop" scenarios were bad for the game and NOT a "working as intended" situation at any point? Because it's clear from the new Set-4 DataCon modifiers that there IS going to be an infinite loop scenario, most notably for Darth Vader.
Is CG going to rectify this? Or are we going to have 4-MONTHS of infinite loop issues?
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Wasn't CG's position always that "infinite loop" scenarios were bad for the game and NOT a "working as intended" situation at any point? Because it's clear from the new Set-4 DataCon modifiers that there IS going to be an infinite loop scenario, most notably for Darth Vader.
Is CG going to rectify this? Or are we going to have 4-MONTHS of infinite loop issues?
@CG_Tusken_Meathead
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In my experience Vader almost always Force Crush first then Merciles Massacre
Who would put an "I win" button on def and risk AI messing it up?
It's not just Vader who could/would end up with an Infinite Loop of turns scenario with that set of DCs though, he's just the most obvious example, there are several others, I'm specifically not mentioning character names as much as I can since I don't want CG claiming I'm spreading knowledge of an exploit or whatever they call it.
...Plus, it shouldn't really matter whether AI would instinctively use the infinite loop available, players on Offense definitely would
is it knowledge about exploit or theory crafting? Im gonna do it for you:
With Palp lead we would have piett, starck, mara jade, death trooper and tarkin with potential loops.
As well as 3 inquisitorious
So in a "normal" imperial team, only palp, vader, mara and tarkin could benefit from that, given that it probably wont be profitable to break two teams. And then they have to hit all debuffs actually
Mara inflicts mass Tenacity Down, so yeah debuffs will stick
Seriously.
Make the 'cooldown' cron like the one from Set-1. That was much more balanced.
They really don't think of anything.. such a game breaking mechanic.
Loops in PVP? That only screws over the playerbase, so that's fair game.
I just didn't trust them not to find some ridiculous way to ban me, lol, but yeah, you covered most of them there.
As for whether it's "theory crafting", well when infinite loops existed before they always said that wasn't WAI, and this doesn't even need any theory to get right with some of them, just spam debuff abilities and keep taking turns
But this Datacron is only using a level 6 ability and this is very easily obtainable especially with the materials we were handed with set 1 disappearing
This is also one where it easily beats 3 Galactic Legends with a 2-man or 3-man relic 5 team. I would not be surprised to see some kind of nerf incoming for it.
yeah i think they said with datacrons if something is OP and broken they will just wait for the set to expire IIRC
Sounds about right. Also, makes sense. Why spend time on balancing something when you know it's gone in 4 months if you simply do nothing?
You misunderstand. I speak from their perspective. But from that perspective, probably even 6 months would be acceptable. Remember the Teebo stealth bug? That was around for a couple years of them actively trying to fix it. Heck, we still have missing buttons 5 years later.
Yeah i understand their logic but to me 4 months of Vader infinite loop taking out every team in the game except LV is too much
/s
Funny when I brought it up about Nightsister Initiate, it wasn't a problem (Nobody has her at R7!?!) lol. Just because only 300+ people have her at R7 doesn't make it right that she is deleting GLs. The point was that ability to do so shouldn't exist. Just like this datacron. But I'll go ahead and run this Darth Vader/LV datacron to the ground until it expires. Have fun like everyone said to have huh? Lol 🤣🤣🤣
It's actually up to 506 people in the game that can run the NI datacron. An actual complete non-issue.
Have fun or don't, totally up to you. But yes you should 100% be using the completely OP infinite loop datacron, because basically everyone (~230k players) has DV at r7+.
Who knew breaking things could be so much “fun”
And yes, even in regular arena the AI for Darth Vader just keeps repeating his force crush over and over and over again. Stupid excessive garbage, once again.
If you want our rosters to be absolutely useless except one or two factions for months at a time, just lock them out so we can only use what YOU want us to? It would be easier than creating new annoyingly ridiculous datacron sets every few months that mean most of my roster won't be able to do anything against the "new shiny" you've proclaimed as the Meta.
I did not pay anything and i got it
Everyone hates losing whether it be a war, gac, or a battle within one of the two. Losing because of a ridiculous dc set on defense in either tw or gac is never fun. Losing because your opponent undersized you more because of overpowered datacrons and winning a banner race, while still frustrating, would probably be less annoying.