K2 is the new k1 problem
Let’s talk k2… if you were ok losing your k1 status like me aka don’t care about DC or investing in micromanaging kits get excited for your k3 drop! Because CG has smashed all in to K2 the above player will be going to K3 so excited!!!!
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Key word in your post is "business". CG is a business and the point of a business is to make money right?
You got me! They should push every nickel they can with no accountability to the people who play great point! I am a sheep I must not question corporate profit and greed….keep the questions coming I love defending the users I am “tron”?
Not really the point. The skill squish is becoming more and more of an issue. If it’s already starting to squish and shrink K2 then that’s a pretty big issue. K1 is already down to what? Around 1000 people?
Perhaps the people Meathead is bringing this to should address this sooner rather than later.
The overall ranking (across all players) you hold is what determines your match making , the division you are in determines your rewards. As an example , if you are rank 1400 in K1 and you get squished to K2 as K1 becomes top 1200 , you are still ranked 1400 in the overall gac order and will match with the players +/- 8 spots around you ( 7 others from ranks 1193 to 1207). The game will show you as rank 200 in K2 , and there is 1200 in K1 , but you won't move up or down the ranking order.
In might be called K2 , but these are the same accounts as if there was no squish and you all stayed in K1.
So .. the entire squish conversation should be about the rewards , K2 less rewards than K1 is the change. There is not suddenly a bunch of people being put into K2 that makes people's matches in K2 worse , it just doesn't work that way. There are bunch of people getting less rewards. This is the real issue.
You’re right. Kyber is one of five divisions, so 20% of players. K1 is supposed to be 10% of kyber, so K1 should represent 20%x10%=2% of the player base.
It doesn’t change the fact that K1 is shrinking and is now under 2% of the player base. Kyber is still 20% of players though, according to numbers from other threads who showed the K1 shrinking problem.
Kyber is not 20 percent of all signed up accounts. 48ish k of 307ish k is 15.6 percent roughly. Now it’s closer to 20 percent if you exclude carbonite but still less than 20
I'm comfortably in K2 and only have 4 level 9 DC's. Went 3-0 this round. Not sure what the problem is.
I have one L9 DC at 3500+ SR lol
Well, I'm f2p with 3 DC9 (farming it every conquest as much as possible), I would say I'm in the lower part of K1 - 3650-3750, whenever I get closer to 3700 it's a 30 DC9 festival, spiced up with ocassional revas.
It wasn't like that even several months ago, the algorithm is clearly faulty with the whale wall getting lower and lower.
Whenever new gac starts, I wanna puke, same goes for every new conquest filled with boring grind, all that keeps me in is sunken cost fallacy.
The players directly above you in the ladder are the same before and after squish. Points changed but not the order in the ladder. You have to beat them if you want to go up.
K1 shrinkage moved the frontier of K1 so there is definitely a reward issue, but the one big ladder is still the same with the players in the same order. Closer, but in the same order.
And rewards are all I care about from this mode, so the whale wall vs k1 frontier is all that matters and it's moving down.
Relatively to the ladder I'm climbing up, indeed - I should be rewarded for that, yet current system punishes me for that with harder and harder opponents and nothing in exchange other than frustration.
You meeting tougher opponents as you move up the ladder is neither a reward nor a punishment. It's a result. Of course you're meeting tougher opponents going up. What would be the alternative?
This statement requires a lot of context. It's patently false if you were finishing first daily in squad arena with no refreshes.
it's even less true since the cadence went from 4 weeks on, 1 week off to 3 weeks on 1 week off once conquest came about. The "breakeven" relative to daily first in arena over a 30 day month is ~6-3 in K1 and ~7-2 in K2.
There can be all kinds of conjecture about what Arena would look like in the age of datacrons, along with the value of time spent NOT performing daily arena climbs, but let's be factual about the rewards structure itself.
I will provide context, since I track everything. And if you were finishing first every day (not sharing) with no refreshes then you were very lucky.
My numbers are based on a 28 day period. For arena sharing 1-2 daily with one 50 refresh.
Arena: 12,250 crystals
GAC k2 5v5 (S9) 6-3 record: 16,490 crystals
GAC k2 3v3 (S10) 3-6 record: 13,335 crystals
Thanks! My break even was wrong (forgot the end of event rewards as well). Here's the daily differential. GAC can absolutely be a lot more crystals some periods, might be less some periods. Answer is, it depends on various factors and what you consider "way more".
You’re not getting significantly more rewards in K2 than you were if you were taking 1st with no refreshes in SA, but if you’re staying in K2 for several season you’re mathematically coming out ahead.
Your statement doesn't take into account that, during the arena crystal days, very few players got first every day...