GeoLS TB
April 16, 2024 5:26AM
edited April 19
Thought on the TB still running. I decided as the guild leader to set the commands and run it as if it isn’t going to be removed just in case they end up running it still. Has been a number of hours now.
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I’ve paid more money to this game compared to any other in my life. We deserve better rewards than simply what was earned last time. And tbh I’m saving them man-hours by just making a simple make-good compensation equal across the board. As a player it’s good to know the game is going to work, but if it doesn’t I’ll do even better in compensation. That’s a sign of a company that cares about customer service, CG/EA (I figured I would share that last bit since you continue to act how you do).
Why are they worried about that? Has it ever happened that CG promises rewards and didn't deliver? If CG says rewards are coming, I'm pretty confident rewards are coming. Also, they're not in the habit of placing blame on players for anything.
I get it. But I could see CG translating a guild's decision to work on the TB available as said group agreeing to take Geo rewards in place of ROTE rewards. No one can be 100% sure unless it's elaborated on.
They get exactly what they got in their last completed TB. I don’t know what you guys are smoking. They are going to be GIVING you rewards with NO effort on your part. No CMs, no platoons, no deployment, no headaches trying to manage 49 other people to maximize your rewards. With conquest starting yesterday take whatever time you were going to spend in TB and put it in to that. Don’t like conquest then enjoy the free rewards for doing nothing whenever they drop.
There’s no need for elaboration. CG said they were going to CANCEL the TB event so anyone trying to push forth with a current running TB is going to be sorely disappointed in what I suspect will be in a few hours when they actually pull it.
Smart attacking someone who did nothing wrong (me). CG on the other hand... But keep defending them. MTFBWY!
Because you're spouting nonsense. Why do you think we need clarification? Their statement was super clear and concise. And why on earth would we deserve more than getting the same rewards as last time while not having to actually do anything for them?
I suggested an “easier” fix for them with their time and an exceedingly happier player base for getting more from CGs mistake. We STILL miss out on the playing opportunity but extra compensation beyond playing and rewards helps to cover missing out on playing. Other guilds’ differing circumstances entering the event were also taken into consideration, reinforcing my belief in a simple across the board compensation where every single player benefits.
CG, I ENJOY your game. I would rather have played TB than do nothing for lesser rewards. My confidence in the team to keep things working correctly has been severely damaged. Extra compensation would help me believe that you want to provide an excellent gaming experience, but if you fall short on that promise you’ll give just a little extra to ensure to us that you care.
This will all likely fall on deaf ears and we will likely get previous rewards, but then CG/EA will be acknowledging the possibility of my personal limited trust and confidence in their products now and in the future. How many people feel similarly? Obviously I have no idea, but how is LOTR: HOME going? So many people have already walked away or stopped spending, how long do you want to keep on this cheapskate position?
Read above.
That's great that you want to play the game. But you're not "doing nothing for lesser rewards," you are "doing nothing for the same rewards." I would much rather the event be cancelled and we get appropriate rewards than they try to shoe-horn something in and screw with schedules.
Also, HoME was shut down a couple months ago.
Same rewards are lesser rewards over time. Those rewards are 2 weeks old at minimum. Some guilds rotate TBs so thier last ROTE could be over a month ago.
I’m not asking for max crate, I’m asking to play the game mode. Since messing up schedules etc. really isn’t an option it’s up to them to satisfy me (the customer). I’m not satisfied and feel free to disagree with your own perspective. I take no issue that you’re happy with it. I just think we all deserve better. Hence my return to the forums.
Obviously HOME is shut down, that was the point.
Take a chill pill
After you, MTFBWY!
You can ask to play it all you want, but that is clearly not going to happen. Unfortunate, but sometimes problems arise. The response from CG is more than adequate, and it's not their job to "satisfy you," or give you more free stuff because you "deserve better."
Also, I hadn't really thought about the fact that previous TB for some would be DS Geo instead of RotE, even though they would have done RotE this time. Unfortunate for them, but they will get less rewards. CG cannot be expected to handle every edge case.
And why ask about HoME, particularly in the way you did, if you already knew it was shut down?
I disagree with your assessment of how customer service should work, but that’s ok. You’re entitled to your opinion as well.
Tbh my arguments are not even really about me, it is the principle. My previous rewards in ROTE are just fine since we run it and we are probably only losing a little bit from the effort. In my opinion the outlier scenarios are EXACTLY who they should consider in a make good scenario if it’s their own fault. Take it or leave it there. To be even more clear, if they had a major power outage for a few hours or something, I would be less inclined to voice anything.
I don’t want what happened to HOME to happen here. Poor customer service can lead to that outcome, hence the inclusion of the argument.
I’ve pretty much said all I can on this matter. I feel I’ve offered rational perspectives on why the solution CG is currently choosing to employ is not enough. I’m fine with disagreement and ultimately no change to their approach, but there will likely be consequences down the road again.
Make of this what you will.
They store at least the last two TBs, so they'd have the last TB during the light side cycle and could actually choose the better reward from either light or dark.
While the previous rewards is an okay deal for my guild, I can see why others might be upset and that previous rewards may not really be good enough. Guilds grow and do better. If it's less than they could have earned, then it's really not sufficient.
While I understand and somewhat agree with the suggestion to overcompensate a bit to offset any possible gains this TB as well as compensate us for our lost playtime, I wholeheartedly disagree with your specific suggestion here of even rewards for everyone, i.e. matching what the highest scoring guild got last time.
I would love to see CG handing out end of TB rewards + SM loot + something for our trouble, but in my mind that "something for our trouble" shouldn't be to the extreme of awarding Hoth guilds with the loot from 44* in ROTE, nor do I feel like that would be within reasonable expectations for ROTE guilds.
Aside from it being way above what could be expected, you also need to consider the feeling of fairness in compensation distribution from other guilds. Relatively the guild which got 44* last time who now get "just" the same rewards would be shorted significantly vs. the guild scoring 12* last time and suddenly receiving rewards for an extra 32*.
And taking your own argument, wouldn't you be "cheating" in a sense the top guilds since they will just get the same rewards, with no room for improvement? Should they then be getting something extra on top?
As I recall the last couple of f ups, CG actually came out with make goods which felt pretty well balanced at least to me, so until proven wrong I'm going to trust them on this one to hand out something that is fair, but not extravagant.
I find your take very agreeable.
I actually mentioned somewhere else that it should probably be best guild score (44* is it?) plus 1. Maybe 2 would even be better. Everyone would do better that way. But that could still feel unfair to those top guilds and that’s a reasonable feeling. I mostly suggested a simple 1 package to everyone to make CG lives easier in the process too (they’ve got a TB to fix after all, wasting time divvying up rewards after looking at what’s actually fair for each guild seems silly). I could get behind many other solutions for the “something for our trouble”, but last TB rewards is not the fair solution in my opinion.
Again this changed very little for me (I bet our guy who did put his useless NS initiate up to R8 before this TB for operations would argue with me), but I’m in the normal bell curve of players. Others are not. I’m arguing for them. The outliers matter.
Lol all I said was you’re getting the same rewards you got from the last completed TB. It was YOU who came in here touting the whole notion that there should be “better” rewards when you’ve done nothing to earn those “better” rewards. How is that “defending” them?
An error occurred. Apparently there was no easy fix. They cancelled the TB event and clearly stated fair compensation (aka what you earned last TB) was coming. What is there to defend? Get over yourself dude.
That’s your opinion, “what are you smoking?”
Yet it is still active. I would much prefer to push forward and be disappointed than do nothing and find out I missed out.
@Ultra fleets TB is broken.